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Scorpion Leader | Scorpion Hero https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26499.msg337084#msg337084
« on: May 19, 2011, 09:27:52 pm »


NAME:
Scorpion Leader
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
4 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|1
TEXT:
Scorpion Motivation: Other scorpions add up to 1 extra poison damage to each successful attack.
NAME:
Scorpion Hero
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
4 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|3
TEXT:
Scorpion Motivation: Other scorpions add up to 1 extra poison damage to each successful attack.
ART:
Scorpion card image, recolored by Thalas
IDEA:
Malebolgia
NOTES:
    Effect does not stack, each scorpion only doing only 1 extra poison, regardless of the excessive number of Leaders/Heroes.  Modified card text for less confusion.Affects lobotomized and mutant-borne scorpions, but the respectful special venom does not activate.Standalone Leader/Hero is impotent, but two can motivate each other, basically the equivalent of Forest Scorpions.Card should also have "Cause poisoning if ingested." but due to font size card space was limited.
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Re: Holy Scorpion | God's Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26499.msg337098#msg337098
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2011, 09:48:26 pm »
too powerful. don't even need to stop to think about that. 0.o

3 poison/turn + normal attack in a mono with blessing? and they can bless each other!

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Re: Holy Scorpion | God's Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26499.msg337099#msg337099
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2011, 09:52:09 pm »
too powerful. don't even need to stop to think about that. 0.o

3 poison/turn + normal attack in a mono with blessing? and they can bless each other!

Sorry to be the one to shoot it down on sight.
It blesses the opponent's creatures.  Notes were edited.
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Re: Holy Scorpion | God's Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26499.msg337100#msg337100
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2011, 09:53:46 pm »
I think it means that the person gets a white poison mark, not unlike Neurotoxin, but it has a positive effect in that it will randomly bless the poisoned player's creatures when played.

Three poison a hit is probably too powerful. Use them in a duo with Momentum and Gravity Shield (since enemy creatures could have more HP than normal)... Also, this plus Adrenaline scares me.
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Re: Holy Scorpion | God's Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26499.msg337102#msg337102
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2011, 09:55:23 pm »
Ahh, that wasn't so clear to me that it was only enemy cretures, until I read it again.

Still, poisoning an enemy 3 each turn is too much with blessing as part of a mono. Something about it needs to be toned down a little.

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Re: Holy Scorpion | God's Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26499.msg337107#msg337107
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2011, 09:58:27 pm »
I think it means that the person gets a white poison mark, not unlike Neurotoxin, but it has a positive effect in that it will randomly bless the poisoned player's creatures when played.

Three poison a hit is probably too powerful. Use them in a duo with Momentum and Gravity Shield (since enemy creatures could have more HP than normal)... Also, this plus Adrenaline scares me.
Yeah I noticed the Gravity Shield Synergy, too, when I thought of this effect.  Like I said: suggestions taken.  This is a tricky element to apply a special venom.  Comparing this with deathstalker, I am not really willing to go below 3 while it has this effect.
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Re: Holy Scorpion | God's Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26499.msg337112#msg337112
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2011, 10:06:52 pm »
screw the gravity shields. 0.o mind those sundials D:

How about Holy Poison: 3 poison per hit. Opponent has a chance to be healed X(20/30?) every turn. That should kill off the phenomenal speed, while also letting those poison counters climb dangerously high.

It's probably not perfect, but it's one step away from OP.

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Re: Holy Scorpion | God's Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26499.msg337118#msg337118
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2011, 10:13:39 pm »
screw the gravity shields. 0.o mind those sundials D:

How about Holy Poison: 3 poison per hit. Opponent has a chance to be healed X(20/30?) every turn. That should kill off the phenomenal speed, while also letting those poison counters climb dangerously high.

It's probably not perfect, but it's one step away from OP.
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Re: Holy Scorpion | God's Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26499.msg337156#msg337156
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2011, 11:33:48 pm »
blessed scorpion / holy scorpion

2 poison at most, 1 is fine

I think healing the opponent is a pretty odd thing for holy.
giving them heal as per an angel is interesting.
randomly blessing creatures is very cool.

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Re: Holy Scorpion | God's Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26499.msg337890#msg337890
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2011, 07:51:19 am »
possible options

What about some sort of synergy with light cards like when inflicted, Holy light turns into poison counters instead of damage

or just be all direct spell damage is converted to poison counters somehow

or just say when a healing spell is used, add a poison counter. so you can spam heal on angels to add poison?

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Re: Holy Scorpion | God's Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26499.msg337897#msg337897
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2011, 08:38:12 am »
Great recoloring. The art looks really cool.

Good thing that you are trying to complete the scorpion but what is this Holy/God's scorpion. It seems very unnatural compared to Forest, Dune Scorpion and Nightstalker. I mean thematically, a scorpion that is holy ?

Another question is, Should light creatures be able to poison ? It is the last element for a poisoning creature to be in.



 
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Re: Holy Scorpion | God's Scorpion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26499.msg337960#msg337960
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2011, 12:47:13 pm »
@Nik Well it's not like scorpions are generally unholy, so it's not un-thematic.

 

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