Steel Guard | Steel Shield

[jippy99]

NAME: Steel Guard ELEMENT: Gravity COST: 3  TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Shield: Reduce damage by 1.  Creatures with momentum cannot attack.	NAME: Steel Shield ELEMENT: Gravity COST: 3  TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Shield: Reduce damage by 2.  Creatures with momentum cannot attack.

ART: Zblader (originally from: http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1116812) IDEA: jippy99 NOTES: Also includes weapons. SERIES: Rare Shield Series (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23267.msg316246#msg316246)

[ztormtrooper]

so nothing with momentum can do damage against this shield or momentum doesn't affect damage?

[jippy99]

They do not attack, meaning they don't deal damage.  Its basically like their attacks are blocked.

[TheIdioticIdiot]

so....
continuing to make gravity counter gravity huh?
gravity shield already blocks a lot of gravity's attacks
and now this one...

cool idea though, I don't think it's should be gravity however

[ZephyrPhantom]

Looks great, but don't forget to credit the original image of the shield : http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1116812 .

[Nepycros]

Huh. So this is a follow-up shield? Play an impossible shield, so the opponent momentum's their creatures, and then you play this, and they're like FUUUUUUU. Only problem with that is... That only works if the opponent has Momentum. Why wouldn't I use Shield | Tower Shield instead?

[ztormtrooper]

Huh. So this is a follow-up shield? Play an impossible shield, so the opponent momentum's their creatures, and then you play this, and they're like FUUUUUUU. Only problem with that is... That only works if the opponent has Momentum. Why wouldn't I use Shield | Tower Shield instead?

shield costs one less quanta doesn't it? sif it does its probably a better non situational choice

[TheIdioticIdiot]

Huh. So this is a follow-up shield? Play an impossible shield, so the opponent momentum's their creatures, and then you play this, and they're like FUUUUUUU. Only problem with that is... That only works if the opponent has Momentum. Why wouldn't I use Shield | Tower Shield instead?

u can use momentum on your opponent's creatures

[OldTrees]

Why would steel prevent creatures with momentum from attacking?
Why would creatures with momentum (aka better at attacking) be worse at attacking someone with a hunk of steel?
Not to mention that we do not want a shield, momentum, steel shield, uber momentum, ... arms race.

What value would this add to the game to justify its existence?

[GG]

Why would steel prevent creatures with momentum from attacking?
Why would creatures with momentum (aka better at attacking) be worse at attacking someone with a hunk of steel?
Not to mention that we do not want a shield, momentum, steel shield, uber momentum, ... arms race.

What value would this add to the game to justify its existence?

I don't like seeing OldTrees always commenting about the concept of the card and not its mechanics, but it's quite understandable in this case. Momentumed creatures even pass through Diamond shield, so how does momentumed creatures get blocked by steel, which is supposedly weaker than diamond?

Also Gravity is one element that already has weird card correlations where a perfect counter for one card lies in the exact same element: i.e. gravity pull and momentum. Gravity doesn't need any more of such cards.

Even without that, the card has the same cost with Solar Shield but really useless.

[ShiningSword]

Just like gravity shield works with plates and BB's to stop opponent creatures, this works with momentum. The name could use a rework.
It doesnt make a lot of sence, although im sure it could be effective and it beats shield/tower shield in cost for monos. I think gravity should have a different kind of shield, instead of a combo shield, how about a strong standalone shield?

[grindpower]

Needs cost increase. Should cost about 5 for upped.