*Author

Offline ZephyrPhantomTopic starter

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7675
  • Country: aq
  • Reputation Power: 101
  • ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeFlavour Text Revival Competition - WinnerSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday Cake
"Spell Creatures" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22762.msg288531#msg288531
« on: March 12, 2011, 01:55:26 am »
So with the making of Spirit Guide (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,22710.0.html), Nepycros and I had a little discussion about how Virus and this card are like spells just in a creature form instead.

IDK, but since it's practically a spell (one-time use) I think we might be able to add in a new feature to OT's formula: Spell Creatures. Creatures that have abilities that cause them to only be able to use it once.
Clearly, a Spell Creature (better name needed), like Virus, has its own agenda as to balancing.
So what is unique about "Spell Creatures"? Well, let's take a look at Virus. Spell Creatures are a kind of creature that are played and then are meant to sacrifice themselves to cast a spell / cast a 1-time spell and lose the ability.

This could make them different because:
-Their ability is only a 1-time use, preventing SoR abuse.
-If the card survives the 1-time use, it becomes Vanilla setting up for Vanilla support cards like Luciferase.
-There is a 1-turn delay when using a Spell Creauture's effect, but it also has the benefit of being able to damage the opponent like any other creature.

Offline OldTrees

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 10297
  • Reputation Power: 114
  • OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.OldTrees is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • I was available for questions.
  • Awards: Brawl #2 Winner - Team FireTeam Card Design Winner
Re: "Spell Creatures" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22762.msg288535#msg288535
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2011, 02:03:49 am »
Remember a Spell Creature is a vehicle.

What kind of effects would benefit from being a Spell Creature rather than a Skill Creature?
"It is common sense to listen to the wisdom of the wise. The wise are marked by their readiness to listen to the wisdom of the fool."
"Nothing exists that cannot be countered." -OldTrees on indirect counters
Ask the Idea Guru: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32272.0.htm

Offline ZephyrPhantomTopic starter

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7675
  • Country: aq
  • Reputation Power: 101
  • ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeFlavour Text Revival Competition - WinnerSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday Cake
Re: "Spell Creatures" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22762.msg288537#msg288537
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2011, 02:07:37 am »
Remember a Spell Creature is a vehicle.

What kind of effects would benefit from being a Spell Creature rather than a Skill Creature?
-Abilities that otherwise would be "on a stick" similar to virus and plague.
-Abilities that are extremely strong such as generating mass quanta or doing a lot of damage.
-Abilities that leave a lingering effect (Spirit Guide boosts a creature and Virus poisons them for example).

Those are my thoughts so far.

Offline Nepycros

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2571
  • Reputation Power: 32
  • Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.
  • My creativity was OP, so I had to nerf it.
Re: "Spell Creatures" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22762.msg288538#msg288538
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2011, 02:08:23 am »
Typically, the spell creature is more effective in that it can, in exchange for NOT using its ability, damage the opponent. It is LESS effective, however, because if you get the card TO use the ability, it takes a 1 turn delay. How you use it matters a whole lot. This means that you have to actually have a card worth making the choice. I guess spell creatures, Virus aside, would have mid-attack, and a sacrifice ability.
Perception is the source of misunderstanding.

Why, yes. I do have a Mindgate necklace. It's how I ninja everyone.

Offline az4rel

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 310
  • Reputation Power: 4
  • az4rel is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • New to Elements
Re: "Spell Creatures" https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22762.msg288547#msg288547
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2011, 02:24:22 am »
we have the virus type spell creatures, strong sacrifice ability, low cost, low attack.
the proposed mid-attacker  spell creature with an ability working like the one in a lycan.
and the chimera using a passive to avoid delay,of course being one use, and i bet a little harder to control.

I would love seeing different chimera type spell creatures.

 

anything
blarg: