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Alchemy Box l Alchemy Kit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22001.msg282156#msg282156
« on: March 03, 2011, 02:30:30 am »


NAME:
Alchemy Box
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
5
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
1: Add an alchemy spell to your hand. The spell has 50% of being the element matching the quanta used.
NAME:
Alchemy Kit
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
3
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
1: Add an upgraded alchemy spell to your hand. The spell has 50% of being the element matching the quanta used.
ART:
Kamietsu
IDEA:
Noobiecakes

NOTES:
The Alchemy Box/ Kit is a permanent that generates an alchemy spell depending on the quanta you spent to use the ability. For example, if you used a  :fire quanta for the ability, a Rage Potion/ Elixir, depending on this card being upgraded or not, will be added to your hand. Alchemy spells are:
 :aether: Quintessence
 :air: Unstable Gas
 :darkness: Liquuid Shadow
 :death: Aflatoxin
 :earth: Basilisk Blood
 :entropy: Antimatter l Improved Antimatter
 :fire: Rage Potion l Rage Elixir
 :gravity: Black Hole
 :life: Adrenaline l Epinephrine
 :light: Luciferin l Luciferase
 :time: Precognition
 :water: Nymth's Tears
SERIES:
None
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Re: Alchemy Box l Alchemy Kit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22001.msg282174#msg282174
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2011, 02:53:06 am »
Interesting idea...


First thing that comes to mind is that this will result in unfair spamming of spells that normally are limited to 6 or require a mindgate and some luck.

BTW corresponding is spelled wrong...



After some more thought I don't like the fact that the ability cost other - there is no such ability in the game yet though that shouldn't be the limited factor...

The real problem I have with it is it would allow you to yet again run a beastly mono-other which is a horrible idea.

6 SoG, 6 SoD, 6 Alchemy kits, 2 swords and 10-20 quantum towers. You can now stall a lot of decks out with mono other.

I think to reduce the abusability of this card it should be given an element or the cost should be elemental quanta, not other quanta.

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Re: Alchemy Box l Alchemy Kit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22001.msg282178#msg282178
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2011, 02:56:37 am »
This isn't a bad idea, but I ran into this kind coding before, and was told that it would a fair bit of effort for zanz to program quanta recognition.
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Re: Alchemy Box l Alchemy Kit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22001.msg282224#msg282224
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2011, 04:11:03 am »
BTW corresponding is spelled wrong... Changed the wording to the suggestion below.

After some more thought I don't like the fact that the ability cost other - there is no such ability in the game yet though that shouldn't be the limited factor... That's because Other have yet to get a permanent with an ability lol. I think it should be fine.

The real problem I have with it is it would allow you to yet again run a beastly mono-other which is a horrible idea. Mono Other shouldn't be too much of a problem, because it'll be completely random which spells you get if you use Quantum Towers, since you get all types of quanta. You'll be pushing your luck to have a mono Other to be actually do well.
On the other hand, a mono gravity with this producing Black Holes is definately abusable. How about this: "1 :rainbow: Add an alchemy spell to your hand. The spell has 50% of being the element matching the quanta spent."
How are the changes?

This isn't a bad idea, but I ran into this kind coding before, and was told that it would a fair bit of effort for zanz to program quanta recognition. I believe the above suggestion just made the coding even more complicated. XD Oh well. If this even mades it to the Armory, and if Zanz like it enough, he might try to impliment it anyways.
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Re: Alchemy Box l Alchemy Kit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22001.msg293544#msg293544
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2011, 11:50:45 pm »
I think this is ready for the Crucible now. Any objections to the mechanics of the card?
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Re: Alchemy Box l Alchemy Kit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22001.msg293752#msg293752
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2011, 05:08:13 am »
At first I was really hoping this was the Other alchemy card I'd been hoping for :)

Personally I'd prefer it as a spell, just because every element got an alchemy spell, and Other should recieve one to (it got weapons XD). Just my opinion though (or this could be the nymph).

 

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