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« on: March 01, 2011, 01:19:32 am »
NAME:
Salamander
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
4 :fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3 | 6
TEXT:
:fire: Shed: Salamander loses 1 hp and generates  :fire :fire :fire .
NAME:
Burning Salamander
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
4 :fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 7
TEXT:
:fire: Shed: Salamander loses 1 hp and generates  :fire :fire :fire .
ART:
Emeraldtiger
Original Image (http://www.sxc.hu/photo/297821)
IDEA:
Emeraldtiger, Zblader
NOTES:
 Wikipedia article on Salamander  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salamander_(legendary_creature))
SERIES:
NAME:
Salamander
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
4 :fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 10
TEXT:
Generates  :fire :fire when damaged.
 :fire Shed - This creature takes 1 damage.
NAME:
Flame Salamander
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
3 :fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 10
TEXT:
Generates  :fire :fire :fire when damaged.
 :fire Shed - This creature takes 1 damage.
ART:
Emeraldtiger
Original Image (http://www.sxc.hu/photo/297821)
IDEA:
Emeraldtiger, Zblader
NOTES:
 Wikipedia article on Salamander  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salamander_(legendary_creature))
SERIES:

Re: Salamander | Burning Salamander https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21894.msg280637#msg280637
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 01:20:54 am »
I feel that it's over-priced...
I rather use brimstone eaters
this should cost 1 :fire, or even free

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Re: Salamander | Burning Salamander https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21894.msg280647#msg280647
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 01:26:22 am »
remember i used this for the image. http://www.sxc.hu/photo/297821
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Re: Salamander | Burning Salamander https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21894.msg280755#msg280755
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 04:34:49 am »
Wow:

Problem? 1
Upgrade:
Cost decrease by 1 and effect doubles?

Problem? 2
High HP on a Fire creature? Why so much? Perhaps 6hp or even 4-5 would be more suitable?

Suggestion:
Drop the passive ability and combine it with the active:
" :fire: Shed: Salamander loses 1 hp and generates  :fire :fire :fire"
Give it more Fiery stats:
3/6 | 4/6

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Re: Salamander | Burning Salamander https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21894.msg280757#msg280757
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 04:38:54 am »
imo, it doesnt feel right as a fire card. fire is all about high damage and low health. here is a card that by its stats alone, looks like a gravity card. as for the mechanic, i would say meh. Its overshadowed by brimstone eater and it would find much use
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Re: Salamander | Burning Salamander https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21894.msg281013#msg281013
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 06:14:41 pm »
Maybe OP with Rage Pot?
I don't know, but sounds like a very good combo.
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Re: Salamander | Burning Salamander https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21894.msg281214#msg281214
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2011, 11:18:02 pm »
So long and thanks for all the fish!

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Re: Salamander | Burning Salamander https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21894.msg281259#msg281259
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 11:56:06 pm »
Updated the card with the suggestions made by Oldtrees, although I gave the upped version +1 higher HP than recommended so it's ability could be used to get more quanta.

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Re: Salamander | Burning Salamander https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21894.msg281274#msg281274
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2011, 12:17:14 am »
This is a nice early game hitter before bringing out dragons. Also great for Fahrenheit. I like it.
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Re: Salamander | Burning Salamander https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21894.msg282650#msg282650
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2011, 12:01:52 am »
CURATOR COMMENT
-Fix the NAME section of the upgraded table so that it matches the image (it should be 'Burning Salamander' instead of 'Flame Salamander')



While I don't disagree with the concept, I feel that Fire already has enough :fire generation mechanics in place; anyway, the HP does go against every Fire creature (none of them can be blocked from Gravity Shield, minus the Red/Fire Nymph), but considering its ability, I can understand how you're attaching the real-life monster to the process. :)

On another note - what if you drastically increased its ATK, and have it decrease by 1 ATK each time you decided to shed? (That might make it UP though, so forget what I'm saying if it's useless that way. ^^; )

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Re: Salamander | Burning Salamander https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21894.msg282656#msg282656
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2011, 12:07:42 am »
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-Fix the NAME section of the upgraded table so that it matches the image (it should be 'Burning Salamander' instead of 'Flame Salamander')



While I don't disagree with the concept, I feel that Fire already has enough :fire generation mechanics in place; anyway, the HP does go against every Fire creature (none of them can be blocked from Gravity Shield, minus the Red/Fire Nymph), but considering its ability, I can understand how you're attaching the real-life monster to the process. :)  Someone noticed that! ^_^

On another note - what if you drastically increased its ATK, and have it decrease by 1 ATK each time you decided to shed? (That might make it UP though, so forget what I'm saying if it's useless that way. ^^; ) That might be an alternative ability if I need to change the card's potential niche, but for now I'll keep the card as it is.
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Re: Salamander | Burning Salamander https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21894.msg343675#msg343675
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2011, 02:56:00 am »
Wait, if the skill costs one fire, and it generates 3, the wouldn't it be generate 2 for free? I mean really.

 

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