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Telenergy | Telenergy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20613.msg261724#msg261724
« on: February 01, 2011, 04:32:23 am »
NAME:
Telenergy
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
4 :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Target creature’s attack becomes 0 and gains the ability Telepathic Strike. Skill cost is of the target's element.
NAME:
Telenergy
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
3 :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Target creature’s attack becomes 0 and gains the ability Telepathic Strike. Skill cost is of the target's element.
ART:
Art by Zblader (modified from Kamietsu)
IDEA:
Rutarete
NOTES:
1 Telepathic strike: This creature attacks from afar for 3 | 5 damage.
One point of this card is to avoid shields. You could also cut the opponent's attack.
The rainbow symbol in the effect means in this case the element of whatever it targets (ex. use this on a frog it's ability would cost 1 :life)
Edit: Damage is reflected by mirror shield
Telenergy: Display of force or energy at a distance, or without contact; -- applied to mediumistic phenomena - pertaining to a spiritualistic medium. (from Dictionary.com)
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Re: Telenergy | Telenergy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20613.msg262439#msg262439
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2011, 01:46:53 am »
. . . Yeah, it breaks through shields, but I'd rather have momentum. ;) Now, if the damage dealt was able to be sent towards creatures... I wouldn't mind Sniper on a stick.
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Re: Telenergy | Telenergy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20613.msg262444#msg262444
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2011, 01:50:48 am »
Nice idea d^^b
The cost is a bit expensive though... why would you use 4-5  :aether for 3 damage if you can play a creature with more attack?
This would be like a last resort if you opponent had a strong shield up.

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Re: Telenergy | Telenergy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20613.msg262468#msg262468
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2011, 02:44:26 am »
On a personal note, I do not want to see another ability removing card. I think we have too many of those.

About the card: I honestly don't see this card being anything other than soft cc.
And I would make the ability cost in the quanta of the card (An aether nymph would still use  :aether for the ability, but a fire nymph would use  :fire for it).

BUT

If you don't want to make the ability in the quanta of the card, then I would think that this card should cost a lot more. It doesn't kill a card, it just takes all its usefulness away from it unless the person has aether quanta.
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Re: Telenergy | Telenergy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20613.msg262540#msg262540
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2011, 04:28:23 am »
Nice idea d^^b
The cost is a bit expensive though... why would you use 4-5  :aether for 3 damage if you can play a creature with more attack?
This would be like a last resort if you opponent had a strong shield up.
Thanks. as for cost and damage, what do you think it should be?
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Re: Telenergy | Telenergy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20613.msg262544#msg262544
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2011, 04:33:54 am »
. . . Yeah, it breaks through shields, but I'd rather have momentum. ;) Now, if the damage dealt was able to be sent towards creatures... I wouldn't mind Sniper on a stick.
well, let's say this is for aether decks instead of gravity.
but for sniper on a stick, there is eagle eye, which i wanted to try to avoid copying it exactly. but again, eagle eye is air and this is aether, so that makes a difference
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Re: Telenergy | Telenergy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20613.msg262548#msg262548
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2011, 04:38:34 am »
On a personal note, I do not want to see another ability removing card. I think we have too many of those.
It's only removing an ability if there's one to remove. With this card, you could run a rush deck with originally weaker creatures and use this to do more damage.

About the card: I honestly don't see this card being anything other than soft cc. I have made no change to make it any type of CC. It still attacks the opponent, not the enemy creatures. If it could target creatures, it would be pretty much a bigger aether-eagle eye
And I would make the ability cost in the quanta of the card (An aether nymph would still use  :aether for the ability, but a fire nymph would use  :fire for it).

BUT

If you don't want to make the ability in the quanta of the card, then I would think that this card should cost a lot more. It doesn't kill a card, it just takes all its usefulness away from it unless the person has aether quanta.
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Re: Telenergy | Telenergy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20613.msg262550#msg262550
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2011, 04:43:31 am »
On a personal note, I do not want to see another ability removing card. I think we have too many of those.
It's only removing an ability if there's one to remove. With this card, you could run a rush deck with originally weaker creatures and use this to do more damage.

About the card: I honestly don't see this card being anything other than soft cc. I have made no change to make it any type of CC. It still attacks the opponent, not the enemy creatures. If it could target creatures, it would be pretty much a bigger aether-eagle eye
And I would make the ability cost in the quanta of the card (An aether nymph would still use  :aether for the ability, but a fire nymph would use  :fire for it).

BUT

If you don't want to make the ability in the quanta of the card, then I would think that this card should cost a lot more. It doesn't kill a card, it just takes all its usefulness away from it unless the person has aether quanta.
But you still can target THE SPELL in an enemy creature. That creature would be lobo'd and would lose its ability, that way, he will only be able to do 2 damage ONLY IF he has aether quanta.
You forgot how this would hurt your enemy. Right now, it's broken.

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Re: Telenergy | Telenergy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20613.msg262556#msg262556
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2011, 04:52:08 am »
lol how could i forget about the mimicking lobo part when it's in the notes of the table?!?
ok then, let's think of some ways to "unbrake" it.

1) Increase cost
2) Change damage
3) There are buffs and quintessence to use
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Re: Telenergy | Telenergy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20613.msg262565#msg262565
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2011, 05:01:46 am »
lol how could i forget about the mimicking lobo part when it's in the notes of the table?!?
ok then, let's think of some ways to "unbrake" it.

1) Increase cost
2) Change damage
3) There are buffs and quintessence to use
Increase cost won't help right now. It would be underused.
Changing damage sounds pretty much the same problem, since if your opponent doesn't have aether quanta he can't attack.
I don't get the third point. You would be making your creature more powerful ::)

I say:
1) Make it as Butterfly Effect (only targets >3 atk creatures -random number-).
2) Make it target only your creatures (don't like it too much, but it's still an option).
3) Change the ability cost for the element of the creature, and make the attack the one the creature had.
4) A combination of the above.

Also, what would happen if I use this against a mirror shield? Will the attack be "mirrored"?

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Re: Telenergy | Telenergy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20613.msg262569#msg262569
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2011, 05:08:53 am »
The third point is that even if you use it on the opponent's creatures, they can still buff its attack back up.
as for your presented options, they don't really appeal to me. I think it should be reflected by a mirror shield
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Re: Telenergy | Telenergy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20613.msg262574#msg262574
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2011, 05:15:48 am »
The third point is that even if you use it on the opponent's creatures, they can still buff its attack back up.
as for your presented options, they don't really appeal to me. I think it should be reflected by a mirror shield
Not every element has buffs, and anyway, you're turning a (example) 19|15 lava golem with growth into a 0|15 vanilla creature with the ability  :aether do 2 damage. It's worst than insta-kill, it should be fixed. Find whatever option that fits you.
I agree it should be reflected by mirrors, BTW.

 

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