*Author

Offline ZephyrPhantomTopic starter

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7675
  • Country: aq
  • Reputation Power: 101
  • ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeFlavour Text Revival Competition - WinnerSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday Cake
Alternate Story Series https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20252.msg257111#msg257111
« on: January 25, 2011, 07:33:50 pm »
The ability to choose an upgrade path? That, my friend, is the successful marriage of an RPG to a CCG. Good chills.   -werdbooty
 
Special thanks to Higurashi and rohflo for inspiring me to start this new series....

The alternate "story" of each card is like a creature having a choice in their future... what talents do they want to hone on? What alignments to they plan to side with? As a result, each card can choose between two upgrade paths.


Two paths.... Two stories - Which ones will you choose?


Swordsmaster
____________________________________________________


Assasain

CURRENT CARDS

Myrmidon | Swordmaster / Assassin:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,20003.0.html

Flame Archer | Flame Sniper / Daemon Archer:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,20371.0.html

Clockwork Golem | Clockwork Golem / Clockwork Skeleton:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,20416.0.html

Temporal Striker | Temporal Striker / Temporal Rouge:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,20581.0.html

HOW THIS WORKS:

When a card is placed on the upgrade area, you are given the option to choose which form you want to upgrade the card into. Both forms still count as one card, so you can only have 6 total of the "species" anytime.  Cards will be proposed in two forms :

Original Card : Card that is completley original and could come in as a normal card.  (it's alternative form can be held back until dual upgrades are allowed)
Existing Improvement: An alternative upgrade to a card already in game.
Also do not ask for a card with 3 upgrade paths - 2 is enough.

rohlfo

  • Guest
Re: A New Series Looms.... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20252.msg257171#msg257171
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2011, 09:01:35 pm »
YAY!

quite excited about this, and how everyone's reactions will be!

My first idea would be something along the lines of a  :light creature which upgrades into either a  :light creature, or is turned to the dark side and becomes  :darkness (yes, very cliche, but perhaps also very fun!)

Offline az4rel

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 310
  • Reputation Power: 4
  • az4rel is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • New to Elements
Re: A New Series Looms.... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20252.msg257233#msg257233
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2011, 09:53:14 pm »
nice dual evolution, like the idea a lot.
mind if i use it sometime,

Offline Nepycros

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2571
  • Reputation Power: 32
  • Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.
  • My creativity was OP, so I had to nerf it.
Re: A New Series Looms.... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20252.msg257237#msg257237
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2011, 09:56:34 pm »
Naturally, the first thing people think about are Light creatures becoming Darkness. TT_TT Darkness isn't getting any love. It has to be corruption, eh? Alas, my dark friends will never be accepted.

Back OT: This series is rather... disappointing. If I base a deck on the Hig's with the triple attack, only to have to upgrade several at once just for the 50% shot of actually getting the card I need, then I waste a bunch of electrum that I'm not getting back.
Perception is the source of misunderstanding.

Why, yes. I do have a Mindgate necklace. It's how I ninja everyone.

Offline ZephyrPhantomTopic starter

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7675
  • Country: aq
  • Reputation Power: 101
  • ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeFlavour Text Revival Competition - WinnerSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday Cake
Re: A New Series Looms.... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20252.msg257242#msg257242
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2011, 10:00:22 pm »
Naturally, the first thing people think about are Light creatures becoming Darkness. TT_TT Darkness isn't getting any love. It has to be corruption, eh? Alas, my dark friends will never be accepted.

Back OT: This series is rather... disappointing. If I base a deck on the Hig's with the triple attack, only to have to upgrade several at once just for the 50% shot of actually getting the card I need, then I waste a bunch of electrum that I'm not getting back.
I'm in the process of changing the card. You get to choose the upgrade path now. 


Also, a side note - I've gotten a warning that the developers aren't exactly too happy about the fact I am trying to introduce new mechanics, most notably the Duality Series. I will still design the series, since I already have ideas, but don't expect me to submit them for the crucible yet - at least not until Duality gets more support for being in the game.

rohlfo

  • Guest
Re: A New Series Looms.... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20252.msg257256#msg257256
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2011, 10:11:34 pm »
Naturally, the first thing people think about are Light creatures becoming Darkness. TT_TT Darkness isn't getting any love. It has to be corruption, eh? Alas, my dark friends will never be accepted.
well, obv it would have a counterpart which starts as darkness and can go either way for the upgrade too, just thought I'd go for the obvious first. It's not obvious in my mind, but in the mind of society and hollywood, blame them!
Given that each elements seems to have an opposite and a partner, there could be some interesting upgrade options imo!

Also, a side note - I've gotten a warning that the developers aren't exactly too happy about the fact I am trying to introduce new mechanics, most notably the Duality Series. I will still design the series, since I already have ideas, but don't expect me to submit them for the crucible yet - at least not until Duality gets more support for being in the game.
you giving them headaches?  :P

One vital question though: 6 cards in deck for unup. How many of upgraded though? 6 of each option or 6 total? (my feel is 6 total, otherwise it basically is completely 2 separate cards, loosing the unified start factor)

Offline Werdbooty

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 554
  • Country: ca
  • Reputation Power: 8
  • Werdbooty is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Werd to yer booty.
Re: A New Series Looms.... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20252.msg257261#msg257261
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2011, 10:16:55 pm »
I just got chills...
"A kind of synthesis, but with some elements that perhaps you wouldn't have expected in advance. I always like that when that happens, when something comes that is more than the sum of the parts." —Evan Parker

Offline ZephyrPhantomTopic starter

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7675
  • Country: aq
  • Reputation Power: 101
  • ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeFlavour Text Revival Competition - WinnerSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday Cake
Re: A New Series Looms.... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20252.msg257267#msg257267
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2011, 10:20:32 pm »
Also, a side note - I've gotten a warning that the developers aren't exactly too happy about the fact I am trying to introduce new mechanics, most notably the Duality Series. I will still design the series, since I already have ideas, but don't expect me to submit them for the crucible yet - at least not until Duality gets more support for being in the game.
you giving them headaches?  :P Not intentionally.

One vital question though: 6 cards in deck for unup. How many of upgraded though? 6 of each option or 6 total? (my feel is 6 total, otherwise it basically is completely 2 separate cards, loosing the unified start factor)  6 Total.
I just got chills...
Good or bad chills?


@On the subject of Dual Elements : Yes, that will happen (  :light:darkness  being the really obvious example ) , but I'm going to try to make them unique as possible. Type changes might occur as well (for example, a spell becoming a permanent).

Offline Werdbooty

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 554
  • Country: ca
  • Reputation Power: 8
  • Werdbooty is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Werd to yer booty.
Re: A New Series Looms.... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20252.msg257273#msg257273
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2011, 10:23:34 pm »
The ability to choose an upgrade path? That, my friend, is the successful marriage of an RPG to a CCG. Good chills.

On another note, I hope you're not catching too much flak for the mechanics. They're great ideas. But great ideas aren't always good ideas, if ya know what I mean ;)
"A kind of synthesis, but with some elements that perhaps you wouldn't have expected in advance. I always like that when that happens, when something comes that is more than the sum of the parts." —Evan Parker

rohlfo

  • Guest
Re: A New Series Looms.... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20252.msg257278#msg257278
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2011, 10:29:13 pm »
I remember seeing a card by TimerClock14 which made me think of this option:

an easier start might be to think of a secondary upgrade option for cards already existing in the game.
My example being, using TimerClock14's card (hope he doesn't mind?):

Forest Spirit -> Forest Spectre
or (due to adding too much  :water to your plant)
Forest Spirit -> A form of Seaweed (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14476.0.html) (NB: not one that can upgrade yet again, this is just an example with an appropriate name, cost etc)

Offline ZephyrPhantomTopic starter

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7675
  • Country: aq
  • Reputation Power: 101
  • ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.ZephyrPhantom is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeFlavour Text Revival Competition - WinnerSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday Cake
Re: A New Series Looms.... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20252.msg257281#msg257281
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2011, 10:31:02 pm »
I remember seeing a card by TimerClock14 which made me think of this option:

an easier start might be to think of a secondary upgrade option for cards already existing in the game.
My example being, using TimerClock14's card (hope he doesn't mind?):

Forest Spirit -> Forest Spectre
or (due to adding too much  :water to your plant)
Forest Spirit -> A form of Seaweed (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14476.0.html) (NB: not one that can upgrade yet again, this is just an example with an appropriate name, cost etc)
....Did you read my mind or something? ;)  New upgrades to existing cards was part of the grand design as well!

rohlfo

  • Guest
Re: A New Series Looms.... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20252.msg257286#msg257286
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2011, 10:37:05 pm »
I remember seeing a card by TimerClock14 which made me think of this option:

an easier start might be to think of a secondary upgrade option for cards already existing in the game.
My example being, using TimerClock14's card (hope he doesn't mind?):

Forest Spirit -> Forest Spectre
or (due to adding too much  :water to your plant)
Forest Spirit -> A form of Seaweed (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14476.0.html) (NB: not one that can upgrade yet again, this is just an example with an appropriate name, cost etc)
....Did you read my mind or something? ;)  New upgrades to existing cards was part of the grand design as well!
think I just used Mindgate on your 'new ideas/concepts' deck  ;)

 

blarg: