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Lava Shield | Volcanic Shield (updated) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19820.msg251235#msg251235
« on: January 18, 2011, 06:13:48 pm »
For fans of the Lava Golem... (if idea already done, say and I'll delete)
concept - you need fire and earth to keep a volcano going sort of thing.....

NAME:
Lava Shield
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
4 :fire
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Shield: reduce damage by 3. Lava Shield absorbs  :fire and  :earth each turn or is destroyed.
NAME:
Volcanic Shield
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
4 :fire
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Shield: reduce damage by 4. Volcanic Shield absorbs  :fire and  :earth each turn or is destroyed.
ART:
rohlfo, using http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/Fire_g343-Fire_p26578.html
IDEA:
rohlfo
NOTES:
SERIES:
opinions/options/issues
- cost?
- not that original/boring?
- OP because  :fire :earth combo is a favourite (because of lava golem)?

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Re: Lava Shield | Volcanic Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19820.msg251318#msg251318
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2011, 08:41:32 pm »
Seems like in almost all cases if you are playing earth quantum you would want to play the earth shields(Titanium and Diamond) over these since they almost do the exact same thing for no upkeep.

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Re: Lava Shield | Volcanic Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19820.msg251339#msg251339
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2011, 09:03:42 pm »
Both cards are UP.

Suggestions:
Increase the defense provided by Unupped to 3, and raise cost to 4.
Decrease the Drain cost of Upped to  1 :fire and  1 :earth .

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Re: Lava Shield | Volcanic Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19820.msg251366#msg251366
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2011, 09:29:43 pm »
some good points there.

The idea was to make it cheap so it can be played quickly, good defence, and at a cost for that you have upkeep costs, which makes it a bit different to the expensive earth shields. Think of it as running lava you're keeping going to stop opponents creatures attacks being as successful...
Will make changes tomorrow and update.

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Re: Lava Shield | Volcanic Shield (updated) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19820.msg251877#msg251877
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2011, 02:09:21 pm »
changes made, feedback welcome :)
I know this is probably quite a boring card, but thought I'd put it out there anyway.

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Re: Lava Shield | Volcanic Shield (updated) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19820.msg251889#msg251889
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2011, 02:32:46 pm »
look at the TYPE line for the upped.
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Re: Lava Shield | Volcanic Shield (updated) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19820.msg251892#msg251892
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2011, 02:37:36 pm »
look at the TYPE line for the upped.
Good spot! thanks!

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Re: Lava Shield | Volcanic Shield (updated) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19820.msg251907#msg251907
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2011, 02:58:11 pm »
How about instead of simply reducing damage, instead it reduces damage by 1/2 points AND deals 1/2 damage to attacking creatures(basically combining diamond and fire shield) ?  Cost might have to be bumped up a bit as well for this though.

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Re: Lava Shield | Volcanic Shield (updated) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19820.msg251979#msg251979
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2011, 05:06:17 pm »
I was going to say the same as Hodari. Lava should damage the attacker badly rather than just stopping damages :P

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Re: Lava Shield | Volcanic Shield (updated) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19820.msg251998#msg251998
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2011, 05:33:05 pm »
good ideas, just that Fire Shield already does that, so makes this card a bit pointless :s

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Re: Lava Shield | Volcanic Shield (updated) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19820.msg252111#msg252111
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2011, 09:43:49 pm »
I was going to say the same as Hodari. Lava should damage the attacker badly rather than just stopping damages :P

It's possible that a Fire Elemental could channel the lava into the shape of a shield.

good ideas, just that Fire Shield already does that, so makes this card a bit pointless :s
I agree, since it's the same element, it'd be redundant. 

Re: Lava Shield | Volcanic Shield (updated) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19820.msg252118#msg252118
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2011, 09:50:51 pm »
I think it'll do more harm to Lava Destroyers seeing that such decks would need to rely on more than the mark to power the skill.

That said, rather than having a set defense, why not have its defense rise up by 1 every 5 turns or so, like lava hardening? It already seems like the shield needs to grow seeing that it takes up quanta any way haha It'd have to raise the price a little more, though, so that it can't be played that early on in the game.

 

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