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Spider Snare | Spider Snare https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19132.msg243713#msg243713
« on: January 09, 2011, 04:22:55 am »
NAME:
Spider Snare
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
3 :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Disable all enemy permanents for one turn.
NAME:
Spider Snare
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
2 :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Disable all enemy permanents for one turn.
ART:
http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1100601 , edited by Ajit
IDEA:
Ajit
NOTES:
Isn't Phase Spider/Recluse needing a little thematic love?  They are so alone in Aether, pretty random, thought a spider web would be a nice thematic addition.

Does not affect pillars/towers

Affects shields and weapons

Changes:
- Now does not affect pillars and does affect weapons/shields
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Re: Spider Snare | Spider Snare https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19132.msg243768#msg243768
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2011, 06:07:12 am »
i believe it should cost 5|4 only cause it disables the pillars/towers/pendalums but i wouldnt mind 4|3

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Re: Spider Snare | Spider Snare https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19132.msg243770#msg243770
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2011, 06:08:27 am »
Yeah you're probably right I think this is under-priced.. my bad

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Re: Spider Snare | Spider Snare https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19132.msg243834#msg243834
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2011, 09:51:47 am »
Another type of silence card for aether!

However, seriously though, Silence is enough for aether.

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Re: Spider Snare | Spider Snare https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19132.msg243947#msg243947
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2011, 03:34:14 pm »
The idea of disabling permanents has been thrown around the forums in various places (as an additional effect to buff Air's Thunderstorm | Lightning Storm, for example), and a defensive effect like this thematically fits in with an Aether Elemental's set of skills.

However, I'm not too sure if relating it to the Phase Spider is the best way to go, as Death also has the Flesh Spider for creating tangling webs. Perhaps it might be a little bit more thematically appropriate if the card was something on lines of an Electromagnetic Pulse/Wave? Aether Elementals do control over electricity and energy waves, and can probably harness that energy to disrupt their opponent's permanents.

As for which permanents are affected by the effect, I wouldn't disable Pillars/Towers/Pendulums from working, as it would be too crippling a lock to recover from in the early game, especially if the spell's casting cost remains at a relatively low (and castable in the first few turns, and also very chainable) 3|2 :aether. I would, however, let it partially disable shields and weapons by allowing only the damage dealing and damage blocking effects to occur, thus suppressing their "magical power" and rendering them as normal shields and weapons for the turn. For example, Permafrost Shield would only reduce damage taken from each physical source by 2 while Snared.
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Re: Spider Snare | Spider Snare https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19132.msg243980#msg243980
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2011, 04:59:25 pm »
I agree with pikachu's suggestion to disable permanents, but I would have it disable the entire permanent for 1 turn instead.  That way your opponent can still gain quanta, but shields like Fire and Permafrost really need some kind of counter that can also work in other situations.

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Re: Spider Snare | Spider Snare https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19132.msg244791#msg244791
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 12:56:10 am »
OK I have changed it to where it does not affect pillars/towers and does affect shields/weapons

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Re: Spider Snare | Spider Snare https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19132.msg244814#msg244814
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 01:29:45 am »
quick question, would titan still have momentum?

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Re: Spider Snare | Spider Snare https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19132.msg244815#msg244815
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2011, 01:30:28 am »
This isn't a shield so what's the difference?

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Re: Spider Snare | Spider Snare https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19132.msg244832#msg244832
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2011, 01:46:32 am »
what if you had a shield up, would titan be able to get through it if this card was in play

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Re: Spider Snare | Spider Snare https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19132.msg244835#msg244835
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2011, 01:52:00 am »
Uhm I guess it would have momentum, but if the weapon has been disabled by Spider Snare, it wouldn't matter.

 

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