Land Wyrm | Elite Land Wyrm

[OldTrees]

A new take on Burrowed creatures

NAME: Land Wyrm ELEMENT: Earth COST: 4 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 4|4 TEXT: : Burrow Gains Ambush while burrowed. Ambushers deal more damage in groups.	NAME: Elite Land Wyrm ELEMENT: Earth COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 4|4 TEXT: : Burrow Gains Ambush while burrowed. Ambushers deal more damage in groups.

ART: Hawanja http://hawanja.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d32z02d IDEA: OldTrees, Emerald Tiger, Art Crusade, Nepycros, Ajit NOTES: Ambush Type: Passive Effect: This creature's current attack increases by 1 for each successful attack dealt to the opponent by a creature with Ambush. These increases last until the end of the turn. SERIES: Ambush! Series (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,18059.new.html#new)

[OldTrees]

Please comment. OP? UP? Confusing?

[$$$man]

I like it. Just kind of confused as this does not have the one extra hp that earth cards should get. Plus it's your idea, so I would love to see the way you quanta-balanced it.

[OldTrees]

The HP bonus on Earth creatures has always confused me. It only changes the value of the creature on 1 creature (Hematite Golem). As such I try to stick to the middle of the +0 value range just in case the Earth bonus is a fiction created by Hematite Golem being slightly OP (I don't think it is but it might be.)

With all burrowing creatures I base the balance on both versions.

4|4 for 4
4 (4attack) +0 (1<HP<7)
or
2|4 Ambush, Burrowed for 5
2 (2attack) +0 (1<HP<7) +0 (Burrowed) +X (Ambush[5 ])
Here I assumed X was equal to 3.

Now X is based of the average number of Ambushers that would be on the field averaged over the course of an average game. Ambush creates an average additional attack per creature equal to X(N)=(N-1)/2. X(7)=3.

Now I guessed that due to fractal, the average number of Land Wyrms on the field (due to the 5|4 actual cost) would be around 7. I would need a veteran player to tell me if this is accurate.

[$$$man]

A good fractal used to be able to get out seven, after the nerf it is more like 5-6.

[OldTrees]

A good fractal used to be able to get out seven, after the nerf it is more like 5-6.

Just to clarify: I am not referring to the number created with a fractal. I am referring to the number out on turn 1 + turn 2 ... + the last turn / total number of turns.

Ambush probably falls into the rush deck category so what is the average number of Horned Frogs, Blue Crawlers, Hematite Golems, and Abominations out per turn (as detailed above) in a deck based around fractal ____?

[Kuroaitou]

CURATOR COMMENT
-Can you provide a link to the page where you got Hawanja's work? I know that it's free to use, but I like to see it on the specific Deviantart page you got it from. Thanks.

[Rutarete]

cool picture 

[johannhowitzer]

The HP bonus on Earth creatures has always confused me.

I don't think Zanz weighted all aspects of cards for their quantum cost, I think he probably eyeballed it, then did some testing and tweaked things a little, then upon each update he tried to correct anything that could use a little adjustment.

The calculations you rely on seem like more of a community-produced thing, perhaps it seems so orderly because the game's natural balance has gradually settled things in a way that makes sense mathematically.

[OldTrees]

The HP bonus on Earth creatures has always confused me.

I don't think Zanz weighted all aspects of cards for their quantum cost, I think he probably eyeballed it, then did some testing and tweaked things a little, then upon each update he tried to correct anything that could use a little adjustment.

The calculations you rely on seem like more of a community-produced thing, perhaps it seems so orderly because the game's natural balance has gradually settled things in a way that makes sense mathematically.

Yes my calculations are based upon a synthesis between theory and the community's playtesting as shown by the current state of cards in the game including the reasoned opinions of said cards.

As shown from the massive effort of people trying to optimize MTG decks we have developed a certainty that there exists an accurate mathematical balance to describe the nature defined by the basic rules of ETG.

I would protest any claims that my calculations are based on the correct mathematical model as seen in paragraph 2. Rather I claim that my calculations are closer to that model than the last proposed model and that a more accurate model with come to supersede my model.

So my statement was that under my model the rare occurrence of the HP bonus for Earth creatures mattering (Hemetite Golem and the Dragon) and frequent occurrence where the +1 HP does not matter (the rest). This makes me doubt if the HP bonus is an accurate representation.