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Frailty | Enervation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16637.msg212948#msg212948
« on: November 29, 2010, 11:09:16 pm »
NAME:
Frailty
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
3 :death
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Kill the target wounded creature.
NAME:
Enervation
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
2 :death
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Kill the target wounded creature.
ART:
Image is an NPC portrait taken from Neverwinter Nights.  All such portraits are available for free download on nwvault.ign.com and other similar sites.
I downloaded this from a community-based portrait pack found at http://wiki.hgweb.org/wiki/Client_Changes - click on "Giant Portrait Thingy."  Low-bandwidth beware, "giant" is no understatement!
IDEA:
johannhowitzer
NOTES:
Only creatures with less than their maximum HP may be targeted; target creature is killed.
Friendly creatures may be targeted.
This is a death effect and will trigger Boneyards.
SERIES:
None
"Nothing is more beautiful than a scream of death."

Some strategic notes:
- Good synergy with Plague/Retrovirus against such things as dragons.
- Capable of destroying even Massive Dragons and flying Titans.
- Synergy with Fire Shield/Thorn Carapace.

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Re: Frailty | Enervation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16637.msg212956#msg212956
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2010, 11:13:37 pm »
This can't be applied until spells aside from Holy Light come into play that heal creatures. (don't say Guardian Angel, 'cause it's a creature.)
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Re: Frailty | Enervation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16637.msg212960#msg212960
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2010, 11:16:24 pm »
Why could it not Nepycros?

I like the idea, but as you might guess, I'm scared of it! Instant kill.  Just throw up a Plague + this and you killed all enemy creatures regardless of health for 7  :death

So I'm gonna go ahead like you said at the bottom of your original post; up the cost in my opinion

Re: Frailty | Enervation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16637.msg212961#msg212961
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2010, 11:17:00 pm »
This can't be applied until spells aside from Holy Light come into play that heal creatures. (don't say Guardian Angel, 'cause it's a creature.)
That gives me an idea...

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Re: Frailty | Enervation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16637.msg212966#msg212966
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2010, 11:20:57 pm »
i really like the card, fits death PERFECTLY, and where did you get the art, did you do it yourself?

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Re: Frailty | Enervation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16637.msg212972#msg212972
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2010, 11:27:15 pm »
Every  :death:air Wings deck would pack this with Thunderstorm. Five death and one air killing every enemy creature?! Hoooooly cow. Nerf now plz?

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Re: Frailty | Enervation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16637.msg212986#msg212986
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2010, 11:32:34 pm »
Every  :death:air Wings deck would pack this with Thunderstorm. Five death and one air killing every enemy creature?! Hoooooly cow. Nerf now plz?
on that point i must agree, i say put a cap of 5 random monsters destroyed and 6 for the upped
key word RANDOM

Re: Frailty | Enervation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16637.msg213020#msg213020
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2010, 11:50:15 pm »
That fits more with Entropy.  I'm tossing around several ideas, keep discussing by all means and stay tuned.

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Re: Frailty | Enervation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16637.msg213024#msg213024
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2010, 11:51:42 pm »
Make it a permanent: :entropy :entropy Sudden Death: A random wounded creature is destroyed.
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Re: Frailty | Enervation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16637.msg213031#msg213031
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2010, 11:57:39 pm »
I considered a permanent, but I really dislike the random aspect.

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Re: Frailty | Enervation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16637.msg213036#msg213036
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2010, 11:58:49 pm »
But as it is, 1 :air makes this card an instant field control spell.
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Re: Frailty | Enervation https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16637.msg213048#msg213048
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2010, 12:09:08 am »
Yes, I agree it's slightly too powerful, but consider other combinations available to players already:

Plague/Retrovirus: perhaps not instant death, but for 2 :death it will clear all creatures that don't have either growth or immortality.  Some creatures may of course live a while.
Thorn Carapace: see Plague, though small chance to miss.
Fire Shield: Ibid.  Rain of Fire also available even in mono and will speed things up a lot.

Admittedly the above are slower.  This new card holds advantages over 1) the above field-wide control, which take longer, and 2) Freeze-Shockwave, which is single-target.

So I'm trying to find a nerf that won't make it needlessly complex or fit a different element better.  One possibility is to slay any creature missing at least half its health, this makes dragons more resilient and all but kills the Thunderstorm combo.  It's just a bit too... weird.

 

anything
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