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(Light) asymmetry 2 - 0 valuka (Time) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16485.msg211057#msg211057
« on: November 27, 2010, 07:26:47 pm »
Public apology to team Light: College and elements do not get along very well, sorry for being a no-show the whole week, (thanksgiving extensions included) I really need to pass some nasty subjects and it sucks not helping your team meanwhile.

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My initial reaction to valuka's mark and pillar/pendulums ( :entropy :gravity :time ) was DEAR LORD NO. I was expecting heavy quanta control and dragons and stuff.
Luckily his deck was almost creatureless. Dragons and stuff were elsewhere.

Game 1&2 were kinda the same thing, early Ice shield... I played a miracle just for the lulz at game 1, then realized I really needed that  :light pool to paliate discord's scramble.  Valuka played a scarab at game 2... and that's about it.

GG's valuka.
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Re: (Light) asymmetry 2 - 0 valuka (Time) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16485.msg211065#msg211065
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2010, 07:33:37 pm »
my deck:

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Not much to say about this. Discord mostly gives him water quanta and my lonely killer scarab appeared just in round 2. of course frozed immediately :). Just sitting before my comp and see, when asy has enough quanta to blow my head off.   

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Re: (Light) asymmetry 2 - 0 valuka (Time) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16485.msg211069#msg211069
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2010, 07:37:38 pm »
Well... this was supposed to be heavy quanta control and powerful deck out deck :P

Discords making you unable to use bolts efficiently, and black holes healing back any damage dealt by Morning Stars...
No creatures due to ice shields and possible Miracles stopping any offense.

ok, so what exactly happened?
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Re: (Light) asymmetry 2 - 0 valuka (Time) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16485.msg211071#msg211071
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2010, 07:38:23 pm »
My quanta production exceeded your quanta denial (?)
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Re: (Light) asymmetry 2 - 0 valuka (Time) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16485.msg211074#msg211074
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2010, 07:42:37 pm »
Riiight... I'll have to speak with those pillars... individually... in a dark corner... somewhere far far away... in a distant galaxy...
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Re: (Light) asymmetry 2 - 0 valuka (Time) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16485.msg211075#msg211075
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2010, 07:44:34 pm »
ok, so what exactly happened?
Both round has discord in my starting hand. When glory pulled me down at ~70 Hp, then i black holed for max hp. But this was irrelevant, because asy has both rounds enough water to kill me from 100 hp in the last turns.

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Re: (Light) asymmetry 2 - 0 valuka (Time) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16485.msg211077#msg211077
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2010, 07:48:15 pm »
ok, so what exactly happened?
4 Black Holes can't deny all the quanta of the 15 quanta sources for a whole 23-turns game.
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Re: (Light) asymmetry 2 - 0 valuka (Time) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16485.msg211078#msg211078
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2010, 07:50:30 pm »
ok, so what exactly happened?
4 Black Holes can't deny all the quanta of the 15 quanta sources for a whole 23-turns game.
Sixteen. The mark totally counts.

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Re: (Light) asymmetry 2 - 0 valuka (Time) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16485.msg211091#msg211091
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2010, 08:12:25 pm »
4 BH + 3 Discords      vs        4 pillars & 11 pendulums[/color]

Hmm... theoretically:
The average number of pillars per turn:
3,5 on average in starting hand + mark = 4,5
times 23 turns: 103,5 quanta
The remaining pillars are in play roughly 1/2 of the whole duel time, so:
11,5 / 2 * 23 = 132,25 quanta

This adds up to a total quanta production of 235,75 quanta during the duel.

Discords should theoretically spread the quanta so that there is 3 of every element, so a BH drains a total of 36 quanta.
This leaves a round number of 235,75-4*36=91,75 quanta

Assuming an even distribution between :light and :water that would mean 45,875 :water quanta, not enough to kill with 6 bolts.



Now, where are the errors in these calculations?
1. Assumption that :water and :light are evenly spread.
2. Assumption that every time a BH is played, all elements have 3 or more quanta.
3. Assumption that HP is full enough in the last rounds.
4. Assumption that...
5. Wait, but he might have played other cards during the game, so he might have even less quanta!
6. And the remaining quanta will be still spread by discords.
7. Though...

well... we should have taken 2 BHs instead of AMs...
and... we wasted a deck with potential, due to not enough testing...




Gratz asymmetry ;]
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Re: (Light) asymmetry 2 - 0 valuka (Time) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16485.msg211394#msg211394
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2010, 02:59:42 am »
Ouch. Looks like your salvages from our discord/BH were lost here too >_> Poor time :[

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Re: (Light) asymmetry 2 - 0 valuka (Time) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16485.msg211559#msg211559
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2010, 09:33:42 am »
Not really, since we had BHs in our vault from the very beginning and also a nice pile of discords, but I guess the Gravity Pillars might be indeed from your deck :P
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Re: (Light) asymmetry 2 - 0 valuka (Time) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16485.msg211714#msg211714
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2010, 03:05:06 pm »
i got a question about the time deck...
is the scarab in there just to enjoy the party? o.O
since it looks like a deckout deck to me due to lack of enough damage

 

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