Round 6- Universal Topic

[EvaRia]

I know I'm just the sub and I'm not supposed to, but I'm pretty sure ScaredGirl doesn't care if we organize our own way as long as these things get done.

In round 5 we've been pretty disorganized, so I think it would be best to discuss everything in one topic.

This way we have a more accurate idea of what we need to do.

Boingo, Gocubs, you should still make topics with the final decks/Discarding/salvaging, but I believe holding the actual discussion in one topic is better. If you disagree, feel free to lock/delete this.

17x Aether Pillar
3x Parallel Universe
2x Immortal
6x Dimensional Shield
3x Fractal
2x Phase Spider
4x Phase Dragon
17x Aether Pendulum
1x Wings
5x Flying Weapon
2x Obsidian Pillar
4x Devourer
3x Steal
2x Nightfall
1x Vampire Stiletto
3x Minor Vampire
1x Dusk Mantle
1x Vampire Stiletto
4x Bone Pillar
3x Arsenic
9x Poison
5x Enchant Artifact
6x Earthquake
3x Discord
1x Momentum
5x Blessing
8x Time Pendulum
2x Devonian Dragon
1x Precognition
2x Dune Scorpion
4x Eternity
4x Chrysaora
2x Purify

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mrpaper vs $$$man (edited my ICB, to be checked)

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Toimu13 vs Shantu

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gocubbies1212 vs GuyFawkes

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thraexis11 vs Dogg

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EvaRia vs Jumbalumba

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Boingo vs Acsabi44

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Dragoon1140 vs Mastermind79

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icecoldbro vs jippy99

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mrpaper vs  Wizardcat

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Toimu13 vs Sir Valimont

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Using the cards that will be added here, discuss possible deck ideas. The rest of the balancing etc. will follow.

Right, let's get to work =D

[EvaRia]

CHANGELOG

-Topic updated with current standing vault.
-Mrpaper's deck added to decks to discard from.
-Dragoon's Deck added to standing vault.
-Memorystick's deck added to salvageable cards.
-Toimu's deck added to decks to be discarded from.
-Gocub's deck added to discard pile.
-Boingo's Deck added to standing vault.
-Edunavas's deck added to salvage pile.
-Rest of duels updated.
-Matchups added.

[Gocubbies1212]

no idea what im supposed to do here...

[Gocubbies1212]

am i supposed to post everything we salvage/discard here?
if so:
Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

Salvaging
2 x Deflagration
4 x Phoenix
2 x Black Hole
1 x Momentum
1 x Dune Scorpion
2 x Time Pendulum
1 x Fog Shield
2 x Graboid
1 x Discord
2 x Nova
Discarding
4 x Nova
2 x Enchant Artifact
2 x Purify 
8 x Lightning
9 x Dimensional Shield
4 x Lobotomizer
6 x Phase Dragon
1 x Owl's Eye
5 x Wings
9 x Imortal
6 x Phase Spider
4 x Quintessence
4 x Obsidian Pillar
2 x Black Dragon
4 x Devourer
1 x Dusk Mantle
2 x Steal
2 x Nightfall
4 x Fractal
1 x Gravity Pillar
5 x Sapphire Charger
2 x Gravity Shield
1 x Titan
2 x Parallel Universe
3 x Quintessence
24 x Aether Pendulum
33 x Aether Pillar
Penalties
none
Converting
2 x Blessing into 2 x Aether Pillar
3 x Poison into 3 x Aether Pendulum
1 x Wings into 1 x Aether Pillar

Discarding 30 cards per loss guys/gals.  Easy decisions, sad thoughts.

Dragoon1140 vs. Memorystick   WIN
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16349.0.html
Salvage:  2 x Deflagration, 4 x Phoenix

Boingo vs. edunavas   WIN
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16434.0.html
Salvage:  2 x Black Hole, 1 x Momentum, 1 x Dune Scorpion, 2 x Time Pendulum

ICB vs. xKelevra   WIN
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16514.0.html
Salvage:  1 x Fog Shield, 2 x Graboid, 1 x Discord, 2 x Nova

Mrpaper vs. $$$man   Loss
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16344.0.html
Discard:  4 x Nova, 2 x Enchant Artifact, 2 x Purify, 12 x Aether Pillar, 2 x Lightning, 4 x Dimensional Shield, 1 x Lobotomizer, 3 x Phase Dragon

Toimu13 vs. Shantu   Loss
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16390.0.html
Discard:  1 x Owl's Eye, 5 x Wings, 6 x Aether Pillar, 4 x Imortal, 4 x Phase Spider, 4 x Quintessence, 6 x Aether Pendulum

Eva (My sub) vs. Radiant6   Loss
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16426.0.html
Discard:  4 x Obsidian Pillar, 2 x Black Dragon, 4 x Devourer, 1 x Dusk Mantle, 2 x Steal, 2 x Nightfall, 8 x Aether Pillar, 3 x Aether Pendulum, 4 x Fractal

Eva vs. Jumbalumba   Loss
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16450.0.html
Discard:  1 x Gravity Pillar, 5 x Sapphire Charger, 2 x Gravity Shield, 1 x Titan, 6 x Lightning, 2 x Parallel Universe, 4 x Imortal, 9 x Aether Pendulum

Thraexis11 vs. Dogg2   Loss
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16488.0.html
Discard:  1 x Imortal, 5 x Dimensional Shield, 3 x Lobotomizer, 3 x Phase Dragon, 2 x Phase Spider, 3 x Quintessence, 7 x Aether Pillar, 6 x Aether Pendulum

Artagas vs. SnoWeb Loss
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16597.0.html
Discard:  4 x Nova, 1 x Blessing, 1 x Momentum, 4 x Devourer, 2 x Steal, 1 x Vampire, 2 x Vampire Stiletto, 6 x Aether Pillar, 2 x Lightning, 2 x Parallel Universe, 1 x Imortal, 2 x Phase Dragon, 2 x Fractal

[EvaRia]

Ideally, we can put together the decks here, and that way I can move cards around within one topic and we know exactly what we have available to create decks with.

Then, when we finish the decisions, you and Boingo make the final topics showing the final Discarding, Salavaging, Converting, and decks.

I just thought it would be easier to hold all the discussion in one place, so again, it doesn't really matter if nobody wants to do it this way.

[Gocubbies1212]

oh, ok

[Gocubbies1212]

NOTICE:We are discarding over half of our Aether Pendulums and Aether Pillars.  Please, start thinking of things we can convert into Aether Pendulums and Aether Pillars or else, we will be in some serious trouble when round 6 begins.  Plus, with our number of Aether cards getting smaller, it is becoming harder and harder to make a deck that is 50% aether.  So, to fix this, I think it would be best to continue converting things into Aether Pendulums and Aether Pillars so we can throw those into a deck to get the 50% aether requirement.  Finally, I don't think we should use mono-aether this round because if we lose, thats 30 aether cards we won't get back.


http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16398.0.html

[mrpaper]

Well the matchups are up, and they are pretty friendly to us considering that weak teams have mostly they're generals and lt playing and we face none.  Of course we end up playing 1 fire and 1 entropy but since they have almost half the players left, that was almost inevitable and we must beat em eventually to win this war!  (though they could also be the matchups we choose to go suicide if we need to).  As soon as vault is updated, please come with deck ideas and strategy dince we must use 150/155 cards, It's merely impossible to get 5 great decks.  My suggestion is to do as many great deck as possible and then see if the last deck(s) can win or if we just do a suicide deck  preventing us from losing good cards).  Also note that we won't face suicide deck except maybe for me and it's pretty unlikely (they will likely need to suicide 1 deck or 2, but I wouldn't choose my match to forfeit If I we're them).

[Boingo]

Well the matchups are up, and they are pretty friendly to us considering that weak teams have mostly they're generals and lt playing and we face none.  Of course we end up playing 1 fire and 1 entropy but since they have almost half the players left, that was almost inevitable and we must beat em eventually to win this war!  (though they could also be the matchups we choose to go suicide if we need to).  As soon as vault is updated, please come with deck ideas and strategy dince we must use 150/155 cards, It's merely impossible to get 5 great decks.  My suggestion is to do as many great deck as possible and then see if the last deck(s) can win or if we just do a suicide deck  preventing us from losing good cards).  Also note that we won't face suicide deck except maybe for me and it's pretty unlikely (they will likely need to suicide 1 deck or 2, but I wouldn't choose my match to forfeit If I we're them).

I agree with your analysis.  I don't expect anyone to play suicide against us.  I haven't looked at the Vault yet, but I'm guessing at least one suicide deck/illegal deck.

[EvaRia]

Sorry that I haven't really updated this, I've been busy.

I'll ad to this in a sec, and we can get a better look at what we have.

[Boingo]

After looking at the cards we have and what we can salvage, here's one deck idea:

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[EvaRia]

Right, everything is now up to date!

Post more deck ideas here, as well as possible strategies.

Any info you may need can be found in this topic.

Let's get to work ^^