Genocide | Xenocide

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NAME: Genocide ELEMENT: Death COST: 10 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Destroy all of your opponent's spells(includes permanents like SoG and weapons/shields), creatures, pillars/pendulums. Your HP is halved.	NAME: Xenocide ELEMENT: Death COST: 12 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Destroy all your opponent's spells (including permanents and weapons/shields), Creatures,  pillars/pendulums, and cards in hand. Your HP is halved.

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Completely revamped and way better (in my opinion). Please comment all criticism, both good and bad, are more than welcome! Also I'm thinking of taking out the 'destroy your opponent's hand' part for the upgraded one and simply making it one or two  cheaper. Which do you think I should do?

[TheOwner]

Zanzarino is rolling over in his grave... (as we all know this card murdered him).  Its way to OP. Mark of Death, anything to stall, and quantum pillars = instant 8000 damage.

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Zanzarino is rolling over in his grave... (as we all know this card murdered him).  Its way to OP. Mark of Death, anything to stall, and quantum pillars = instant 8000 damage.

Which is why its a trump card and also it would be as hard to find (if not harder) than an upgraded nymph card

[miniwally]

Zanzarino is rolling over in his grave... (as we all know this card murdered him).  Its way to OP. Mark of Death, anything to stall, and quantum pillars = instant 8000 damage.

Which is why its a trump card and also it would be as hard to find (if not harder) than an upgraded nymph card

Rarity has no affect on if they're overpowered or not.

[TheOwner]

Maybe if it had a max damage, and a lower cost it wouldn't be as bad.  It really needs some work though.

[BloodlinE]

maybe not random quantum but death and darkness quantum..

inflict X damage to your enemy.X equals total number of your death and darkness quantum divided but five

[TimerClock14]

maybe not random quantum but death and darkness quantum..

inflict X damage to your enemy.X equals total number of your death and darkness quantum divided but five

I like that Idea, I'll look into it.

Another Idea: (it probably won't fit on the card itself though) the same affects as the originals posted, but the 'true cost' is that you're HP gets sliced in half? I think that cost will balance with the damage done.

[TimerClock14]

I have come up with a better idea for these cards. I believe they are fairly balanced, reasonably priced, and not overpowered. The effect has completely changed though.

[moomoose]

way too OP still.  it doesnt have to be a swiss army knife mixed with a nuclear bomb for it to be a good card. 

also, as soon as you think "hey, maybe it can instantly kill a creature..." stop and start over, there will be no instant kill cards unless they are involved in a combo (freeze/shockwave).  not only that, but destroys all pillars... spells(?) and permanents? cmon man.  im just going to ignore destroying the hand part and pretend i didnt see it.

i know you are trying to come up with a trump card, but think about it this way- everyone hates donald trump.

[miniwally]

way too OP still.  it doesnt have to be a swiss army knife mixed with a nuclear bomb for it to be a good card. 

also, as soon as you think "hey, maybe it can instantly kill a creature..." stop and start over, there will be no instant kill cards unless they are involved in a combo (freeze/shockwave).  not only that, but destroys all pillars... spells(?) and permanents? cmon man.  im just going to ignore destroying the hand part and pretend i didnt see it.

i know you are trying to come up with a trump card, but think about it this way- everyone hates donald trump.

Completely agree with this. It doesn't have to be so powerful for it to be a good card, simplicity is best also zanz has already said there will be no insta-kill cards that don't take the hp of a creature into account, freeze/shockwave was an exception (can't remember why).

[guolin]

way too OP still.  it doesnt have to be a swiss army knife mixed with a nuclear bomb for it to be a good card. 

also, as soon as you think "hey, maybe it can instantly kill a creature..." stop and start over, there will be no instant kill cards unless they are involved in a combo (freeze/shockwave).  not only that, but destroys all pillars... spells(?) and permanents? cmon man.  im just going to ignore destroying the hand part and pretend i didnt see it.

i know you are trying to come up with a trump card, but think about it this way- everyone hates donald trump.

Completely agree with this. It doesn't have to be so powerful for it to be a good card, simplicity is best also zanz has already said there will be no insta-kill cards that don't take the hp of a creature into account, freeze/shockwave was an exception (can't remember why).

Two card combo is shockwave's only saving grace. And yeah, I'm find with the destroy permanents and stuff, but I'm not find with destroying hand and creatures.

[miniwally]

way too OP still.  it doesnt have to be a swiss army knife mixed with a nuclear bomb for it to be a good card. 

also, as soon as you think "hey, maybe it can instantly kill a creature..." stop and start over, there will be no instant kill cards unless they are involved in a combo (freeze/shockwave).  not only that, but destroys all pillars... spells(?) and permanents? cmon man.  im just going to ignore destroying the hand part and pretend i didnt see it.

i know you are trying to come up with a trump card, but think about it this way- everyone hates donald trump.

Completely agree with this. It doesn't have to be so powerful for it to be a good card, simplicity is best also zanz has already said there will be no insta-kill cards that don't take the hp of a creature into account, freeze/shockwave was an exception (can't remember why).

Two card combo is shockwave's only saving grace. And yeah, I'm find with the destroy permanents and stuff, but I'm not find with destroying hand and creatures.

Yeh but zanz specifically gave a reason as to why he allowed the insta-kill but I can't remember what it was.