Mine Worm | Mine Worm

[SnoWeb]

NAME: Mine Worm ELEMENT: Earth COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 1|15 TEXT: Detonates: Deals damage equal to its current HP to next creature opponent plays, then dies.	NAME: Mine Worm ELEMENT: Earth COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 1|20 TEXT: Detonates: Deals damage equal to its current HP to next creature opponent plays, then dies.

ART: no art IDEA: Snoweb REALISATION: Craawzy NOTES: As the creature is not targeted (as for shields), immaterial and burrowed creatures should be also hit. SERIES: Worms (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12038.0.html)

[bored_ninja777]

it still needs to be redone i think. the instant kill part has no account for HP of the creature or status of it. this would kill a Massive Dragon just for playing it for example. thats 30 damage... no other card can do that much without accumulating lots of fire and/or water quanta.

[SnoWeb]

Almost true (think of Maxwell) but you are warned. The creature is already on the field when you play your dragon. If you want you can: (a) use a CC and then play your dragon or (b) play a photon and then your dragon.

[craawzy]

True, cuz if u have a dragon out when he play the mine worm, the dragon doesnt die.
So you can choose.

And im pretty sure the most decks have some CC otherwise time reverse

[bored_ninja777]

i understand other cards have abilities to destroy.. but maxwells only does it for higher attacks.. massive dragon is 8/30. if mine worm is in play it just dies.. thats overpowered. it has to account for stats or status somehow.

[Sodomir]

Fractal and this card 

So change the ability, e.g. Next creature, which played by your opponent, gets 0/-5. Mine Worm dies.

[craawzy]

i understand other cards have abilities to destroy.. but maxwells only does it for higher attacks.. massive dragon is 8/30. if mine worm is in play it just dies.. thats overpowered. it has to account for stats or status somehow.

Like i said b4, u can stop him from killing your dragon, play like a photon, time reverse the worm OR kill it with bolts, owls eye ETC.

It isnt that hard, u have many ways to get rid of it, devour too.

But i still understund what you mean, its a little op, but its like maxwell except that maxwell can kill alot of creatures while Mine Worm just kill the first you play, wich could be a spark too.

[guy_fawkes]

Fractal and this card 

So change the ability, e.g. Next creature, which played by your opponent, gets 0/-5. Mine Worm dies.

in this case the problem is FRACTAL, not this card

i like the idea of this card...
doesn't seem too OP for me...

[craawzy]

Fractal and this card 

So change the ability, e.g. Next creature, which played by your opponent, gets 0/-5. Mine Worm dies.

in this case the problem is FRACTAL, not this card

i like the idea of this card...
doesn't seem too OP for me...

With fractal this will be a uber deck.

6 Fractal, 6 Mine Worm. 12 aether pillars, 2x Boneshields.
4 creatures that can attack or something

[bored_ninja777]

i dont see why what im telling u isnt making sense.

there is no card the kills a creature in this game that doesnt account for hp or status. it is something Zanz himself has said. i understand you can play a different creature or find a way to remove the worm. that is not the point.
no matter what creature is played first, it dies. simple as that. this is not a usable mechanism in this game. You cannot make a card and assume just because there are ways to get rid of it everyone uses them or will use them.
and yes as mentioned fractal + this is horrible. you would have a field full of mine worms that would cause massive creature control on ur opponent. how many people have enough creatures to play to get rid of 10 mine worms. basically only way to win would be a spell like fire lance or a weapon.
Maxwell's demon is nothing like this card.. it has a cost to play.. in this case urs is sacrificing the creature. it then lets u target ONLY creatures with an ATTACK HIGHER THAN ITS DEFENSE. <<<this = looking at atk/hp or status of creature.
shockwave kills a creature yes.. but it has to be frozen first.

this clear enough?

[$$$man]

Fractal and this card 

So change the ability, e.g. Next creature, which played by your opponent, gets 0/-5. Mine Worm dies.

in this case the problem is FRACTAL, not this card

i like the idea of this card...
doesn't seem too OP for me...

With fractal this will be a uber deck.

6 Fractal, 6 Mine Worm. 12 aether pillars, 2x Boneshields.
4 creatures that can attack or something

Yah it would, if you made it properly

With the current example you would just sit there gaining and maybe fractaling the opponents cards.

[guolin]

Guys, listen to bored_ninja. The only insta-kill cards ever are Shockwave (two-card combo required) and Inundation (very situational, cannot kill Water creatures or Cells), and they will always be unless Zanz gets his brain brainwashed by aliens or something.

However, I really like the idea. So, since Earth is centered around HP, here's the change I suggest:

Ability to "Detonates: Deal damage equal to HP to next creature opponent plays, then die."
Stats to "0|20 or 1|20."

Not only will this change work better, but it's also far more realistic (I don't see a humongous dragon getting injured off one little mine, but I do see it being heavily damaged). With HevE armor or BB + Adrenaline (though this one's not recommended), it can almost anything. In a rainbow deck, it can also be coupled with Anubis to prevent CC. With this guy's cheap cost, Earth may have the CC it needs.