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Imbibing Abyss | Imbibing Abyss https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11786.msg144963#msg144963
« on: August 23, 2010, 06:41:59 pm »
Imbibing Abyss | Imbibing Abyss
NAME:
Imbibing Abyss
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
5 :gravity
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
3 random creatures are returned to owner's deck. Each gains X HP. X = total HP/2 of their's returned.
NAME:
Imbibing Abyss
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
4 :gravity
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
4 random creatures are returned to owner's deck. Each gains X HP. X = total HP/2 of their's returned.
ART:
bored_ninja777
IDEA:
bored_ninja777
NOTES:
I thought gravity could use a creature control.
SERIES:
Edited: new art by me, ability changed
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Re: Wormhole | Wormhole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11786.msg144980#msg144980
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2010, 07:06:06 pm »
This is overpowered to hell. 5/4 :gravity quantum to not only destroy any targetable creature, but to deal that much damage as well?! Also, Destory-->Destroy

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Re: Wormhole | Wormhole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11786.msg144981#msg144981
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2010, 07:07:38 pm »
This is overpowered to hell. 5/4 :gravity quantum to not only destroy any targetable creature, but to deal that much damage as well?! Also, Destory-->Destroy
edited: half the attack of creature now. better?
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Re: Wormhole | Wormhole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11786.msg145031#msg145031
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2010, 09:13:37 pm »
This is overpowered to hell. 5/4 :gravity quantum to not only destroy any targetable creature, but to deal that much damage as well?! Also, Destory-->Destroy
edited: half the attack of creature now. better?
Still overpowered. First of all, let's take a look at the insta-kill.

Zanz specifically said that he didn't want insta-kills that don't take in account the creature's HP. Aflatoxin was intentionally changed from insta-kill to 2 poison. Shockwave was left alone because it required a two-card combo.

Secondly, in addition to a taboo'ed insta-kill, it does damage as well??

Here are some possible changes:

1) Follow the theme of Gravity (many things involve HP), and make it only affect creatures with 5 HP or less. This makes it a "legitimate" insta-kill, and is a spell version of Elite Otyugh, sort of.

OR

2) Make it do damage to YOU equal to the HP of the creature.

Now for aesthetics.

If you want to be scientifically correct (I'm a physics freak), Wormholes don't completely destroy things. That's what Black Holes do. (which, incidently, has its own card) Wormholes, in theory, should be able to transport matter to another point of space-time. It doesn't destroy, only transports. I believe it kind of rescontructs the matter at the end of the Wormhole.

Also, Destory should be Destroy.

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Re: Wormhole | Wormhole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11786.msg145038#msg145038
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2010, 09:24:21 pm »
I see, well i can change it to only a certain hp that makes sense. I shall rework it. And yes i know how wormholes work but putting in
"Target creature is now sucked into a wormhole and transported to another dimension, you lose X hp where X = the creatures hp." 
 i shall redo it quick.. ty for your opinion/suggestions :)
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Re: Wormhole | Wormhole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11786.msg145045#msg145045
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2010, 09:29:52 pm »
I see, well i can change it to only a certain hp that makes sense. I shall rework it. And yes i know how wormholes work but putting in
"Target creature is now sucked into a wormhole and transported to another dimension, you lose X hp where X = the creatures hp." 
 i shall redo it quick.. ty for your opinion/suggestions :)
"Target creature is sucked out of play for X turns. X=Hp/2."

Something along those lines.

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Re: Wormhole | Wormhole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11786.msg145046#msg145046
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2010, 09:30:46 pm »
I see, well i can change it to only a certain hp that makes sense. I shall rework it. And yes i know how wormholes work but putting in
"Target creature is now sucked into a wormhole and transported to another dimension, you lose X hp where X = the creatures hp." 
 i shall redo it quick.. ty for your opinion/suggestions :)
"Target creature is sucked out of play for X turns. X=Hp/2."

Something along those lines.
eh, i want to kill it. this version work better?
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Re: Wormhole | Wormhole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11786.msg145048#msg145048
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2010, 09:38:22 pm »
The current version is now underpowered. ::) Compare to Lightning and even Rage Potion, and you get the idea. It doesn't even reduce HP.

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Re: Wormhole | Wormhole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11786.msg145049#msg145049
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2010, 09:40:48 pm »
The current version is now underpowered. ::) Compare to Lightning and even Rage Potion, and you get the idea. It doesn't even reduce HP.
underpowered? it kills anything up to 6 hp? that's better than lightning.. and you take the damage for killing it.
this can kill more?
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Re: Wormhole | Wormhole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11786.msg145055#msg145055
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2010, 09:48:19 pm »
The current version is now underpowered. ::) Compare to Lightning and even Rage Potion, and you get the idea. It doesn't even reduce HP.
underpowered? it kills anything up to 6 hp? that's better than lightning.. and you take the damage for killing it.
this can kill more?
WormholeLightning
You can kill 6 HP creatures.You can kill 5 HP creatures.
Higher HP creatures are unaffected.Higher HP creautres lose 5 HP, allowing you to kill <10 HP creatures with 2 Lightnings
You lose up to 6 life.You lose no life
Cost 5/4Cost 2/1
Can't target opponentCan target opponent
The green row being the only advantage of Wormhole.

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Re: Wormhole | Wormhole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11786.msg145058#msg145058
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2010, 09:54:18 pm »
i see, you make a good point. b4 i go thru the annoying process of adjusting the card..
options:
1: decrease costs to 1 unupgraded/ free upgraded
2: change ability to as follows
     un upgraded: Deal 6 damage to target creature. If it dies you lose life equal to creature's HP
    upgraded: Deal 8 damage to target creature. If it dies you lose life equal to creature's HP.

3: other suggestions?

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Re: Wormhole | Wormhole https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11786.msg145081#msg145081
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2010, 10:21:48 pm »
not really sure what worm holes have to do with killing things, theyre usually associated with travel, and also more associated with the fabric of spacetime than gravity- not to mention the image appears to be more similar to a gamma ray burst or possibly a feeding black hole than a worm hole.  i would suggest a renaming of the card and/or more appropriate art
moose dont say moo.

 

anything
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