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Re: Spotty Dog in Arena Spin? http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64801.msg1267964#msg1267964
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2017, 01:03:18 PM »
I added a cow to 5, 8 & 9 aswell. There was also 1 in 11 and in the decks mentioned earlier.
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Re: Spotty Dog in Arena Spin? http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64801.msg1267972#msg1267972
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2017, 03:23:57 PM »
I added a cow to 5, 8 & 9 aswell. There was also 1 in 11 and in the decks mentioned earlier.

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Re: Spotty Dog in Arena Spin? http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64801.msg1267998#msg1267998
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2017, 08:58:37 PM »
after 150 matches in silver:

found 3 vindi's alts
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one alt every 50 matches isn't so bad, it's definitely possible get the cow

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Re: Spotty Dog in Arena Spin? http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64801.msg1268000#msg1268000
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2017, 11:02:12 PM »
OOh, he's active on the forums :p  I'll definitely have to do more silver in the future :)

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Re: Spotty Dog in Arena Spin? http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64801.msg1268040#msg1268040
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2017, 03:18:42 PM »
I'll also add my stats, since I seem to be the person with the most time to waste at hand.

Earned score: 350k
Played games: 7k ?
Time played: 23 hours ?
Win rate : 75% ?
Games against accounts with Moo: 104 (97-7)
Spins with Moo: 17
Moos won: 0

Chance to win Moo with p=0.05:
   in 10 games: 40%
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Re: Spotty Dog in Arena Spin? http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64801.msg1268042#msg1268042
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2017, 03:21:47 PM »
What's p? Probability of winning Moo in one spin? Why's it 5%?

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Re: Spotty Dog in Arena Spin? http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64801.msg1268043#msg1268043
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2017, 03:26:49 PM »
What's p? Probability of winning Moo in one spin? Why's it 5%?

Taken from Game Rules point three.

You're right it's per spin, not per game, as I mistakenly wrote.

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Re: Spotty Dog in Arena Spin? http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64801.msg1268044#msg1268044
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2017, 03:59:56 PM »
I'm not sure about that actually - it sounds vague. Doesn't say if it's the probability of winning a specific card, or any card. Also, shouldn't the probability depend on the number of copies of the card in the deck?

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Re: Spotty Dog in Arena Spin? http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64801.msg1268047#msg1268047
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2017, 04:31:32 PM »
I made Vindi_NL12, with a holy cow in its bronze deck. Also my main account Vindilos is playing with 6 holy cows in plat. Holy cows are its main source of damage.
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Re: Spotty Dog in Arena Spin? http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64801.msg1268048#msg1268048
« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2017, 04:49:33 PM »
What's p? Probability of winning Moo in one spin? Why's it 5%?

Taken from Game Rules point three.

You're right it's per spin, not per game, as I mistakenly wrote.

Unfortunately, it's the chance to win any card, you'd have to divide moos by number of nonpillar cards in the deck on top of it.


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I have no source, but it makes sense, this is what I was once told how spins work: For each spin randomly select any card of the deck 4 times; if that card is a pillar reroll up to 18 times (lets simplify this to pillars not being spinnable, though it does happen rarely). If there is one moo in 20 nonpillar cards there is about  1/5th chance to get one in the 4 preselected cards. These 4 cards have an equal chance to appear in each of the 3 pictures (which is why having multiples of the card in preselection greatly increases the odds, its crazy unlikely to happen for just 1 copy in deck though). so you have a 1/4^3 chance of getting it, if holy cow made it into the preselection once. We end in a 1/320 chance per spin to win one. Seeing a cow is roughly 50 times more likely however.
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Re: Spotty Dog in Arena Spin? http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64801.msg1268055#msg1268055
« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2017, 06:19:41 PM »
Win rate : 75% ?

wait what deck are u using? after 200 games with this

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i lost something like 3 matches and em'd probably 95% of decks with 1 hp

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Re: Spotty Dog in Arena Spin? http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64801.msg1268058#msg1268058
« Reply #35 on: September 10, 2017, 09:40:48 PM »
Win rate : 75% ?

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i lost something like 3 matches and em'd probably 95% of decks with 1 hp

I only play decks with up to ~20 HP. The purpose is to get a very high amount of games in. Earned score however is misleading when you don't include this detail.

Why not SoFree but SoPa?

@kaempfer: I figured that estimate is way off. It should be 4% (1^-5) for a deck with only single copies. This is for 5 instead of 4 pre-selected cards per spin though. I only roughly remember the mechanics from reading them some time ago. The numbers that stuck to my head were 5 (which makes sense) and 50 (dunno) respectively. Sorry, I'm too lazy to look it up but at least have the odds for 5 pre-selected cards: 1/625. Thanks for doing the math!

 

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