Oracle : Hecate

[dragtom]

The problem is that it's hard to draw the things you need in a Rainbow, though i didn't test your version yet.
Today I encountered Hecate again, and with some new mods, I could do a whopping 244 HP EM on him. (which means more gold when winning)

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Finally I think I can say that this deck has an answer to everything (well, almost). Miracles and SoDs can stall in the early game unless Hecate gets a very fast hand and outrushes me while I'm drawing for quanta - which can sadly happen. The Sanctuaries are bound to be stolen here, but as long as they are up, they protect from Nightmare. Holy Light handles the raged dolls with 10 or less HP. And now, the forever alone Hope + RoLs take care of Eclipse. The only thing I can't remove with this is the poison, but that's manageable when you have tons of HP. Finally to get the EM, keep a miracle and a sanctuary in your hand until the last turn, then play Sanc+Miracle (in this order) to get the EM.

It's still a subject to test later, because i can't know from one test if i got lucky or if it really has potential... Will come back to it later maybe.

worked for me

[Submachine]

The problem is that it's hard to draw the things you need in a Rainbow, though i didn't test your version yet.
Today I encountered Hecate again, and with some new mods, I could do a whopping 244 HP EM on him. (which means more gold when winning)

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Finally I think I can say that this deck has an answer to everything (well, almost). Miracles and SoDs can stall in the early game unless Hecate gets a very fast hand and outrushes me while I'm drawing for quanta - which can sadly happen. The Sanctuaries are bound to be stolen here, but as long as they are up, they protect from Nightmare. Holy Light handles the raged dolls with 10 or less HP. And now, the forever alone Hope + RoLs take care of Eclipse. The only thing I can't remove with this is the poison, but that's manageable when you have tons of HP. Finally to get the EM, keep a miracle and a sanctuary in your hand until the last turn, then play Sanc+Miracle (in this order) to get the EM.

It's still a subject to test later, because i can't know from one test if i got lucky or if it really has potential... Will come back to it later maybe.

worked for me

Awesome! We're on the right track it seems. ^^

[yee]

Fully upped worked very well

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[SevenOfAKind]

So far I've been trying the unupped deck in op when getting Hecate but am yet to even put up a fight with it. The main problem I see is that a double elixired, lsed doll only lasts 7 turns so you have limited healing/damage from it. As a result I've been tinkering around with this deck and gone 2-3 so far:

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The idea is that if Hecate pumps up a doll and ls' it you can keep it healed throughout the game to maintain a healing/damage source. The wins have been close due to slow damage from dolls and a lack of damage on my side which has left me with sub 5 cards in deck each win. I'm thinking maybe -1 angel +2 pend +2 crusader or something like that. Or maybe its just a flawed concept and I should stick to the op.

This version 2 of the deck is 2-6, fairly bad but I feel like I have been getting really unlucky with both my draws and hecates. Not sure if there are any unupped deck that can handle Hecate spamming ls'd dolls without elixiring them and having an eclipse out.

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Version 3

I'm busy this week and especially today so I haven't and won't have much time to test this but so far this deck has comfortably 2-0d with an EM both times. I decided to just drop the angels and focus on a combo of AM and crusaders with a couple of blessings thrown in. The blessings can either be used on crusaders to put them out of elixir range or can be used on an LS'd doll right before you AM in order to ensure it lasts longer to do damage and also heals/self-inflicts a great amount of damage per turn.

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Its possible I just got lucky but I feel like even if I was slightly lucky this deck has potential to equal the OP based on the huge difference between my games with this deck and my games with the OP.

[Zso_Zso]

Fully upped worked very well

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I decked out with this, he had 3 cards left. He was holding 7 cards for the last 10+ turns, so only drew 1 card each turn.

[Submachine]

I decked out with this, he had 3 cards left. He was holding 7 cards for the last 10+ turns, so only drew 1 card each turn.

Yeah, I noticed that if you put up Sanctuary too early, he'll clog his hands with copies of Nightmare. To prevent it with current deck, I used to let myself be nightmared once or twice. I also made a second version with extra cards to prevent deckouts, but I only had the chance to test it once (it was an EM tho).

[jade_giant]

I have no idea why this isn't on the front page:

I'm going to say for upped something like this should work:

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That deck has a MUCH better win percentage than the ones in the OP. This deck, in my tests, makes Hecate out to be an "average" False God in that the deck can pretty much beat her consistently (Hecate is a Greek Goddess, hence my use of "her", FYI) unless she doesn't play anything but the dagger. Just wait for a raged LS'd doll, amp it up with Chaos, twin it and antimatter the original. Let me know if anyone has wildly different results.

Jade Giant

[Submachine]

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I will test this deck later. Decks against Hecate tend not to be consistent, so if you won ~3 times in a row, that doesn't mean anything. The losses keep coming after a while, and they can stack up pretty badly after a good start. This deck seems no different, but hey, I will test it and we'll have stats.

[tereret]

So far I've been trying the unupped deck in op when getting Hecate but am yet to even put up a fight with it. The main problem I see is that a double elixired, lsed doll only lasts 7 turns so you have limited healing/damage from it. As a result I've been tinkering around with this deck and gone 2-3 so far:

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The idea is that if Hecate pumps up a doll and ls' it you can keep it healed throughout the game to maintain a healing/damage source. The wins have been close due to slow damage from dolls and a lack of damage on my side which has left me with sub 5 cards in deck each win. I'm thinking maybe -1 angel +2 pend +2 crusader or something like that. Or maybe its just a flawed concept and I should stick to the op.

This version 2 of the deck is 2-6, fairly bad but I feel like I have been getting really unlucky with both my draws and hecates. Not sure if there are any unupped deck that can handle Hecate spamming ls'd dolls without elixiring them and having an eclipse out.

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Version 3

I'm busy this week and especially today so I haven't and won't have much time to test this but so far this deck has comfortably 2-0d with an EM both times. I decided to just drop the angels and focus on a combo of AM and crusaders with a couple of blessings thrown in. The blessings can either be used on crusaders to put them out of elixir range or can be used on an LS'd doll right before you AM in order to ensure it lasts longer to do damage and also heals/self-inflicts a great amount of damage per turn.

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Its possible I just got lucky but I feel like even if I was slightly lucky this deck has potential to equal the OP based on the huge difference between my games with this deck and my games with the OP.

Perfect EM
IMPORTANT: AM any rage doll

[CaRmAgE]

Yeah, I noticed that if you put up Sanctuary too early, he'll clog his hands with copies of Nightmare. To prevent it with current deck, I used to let myself be nightmared once or twice. I also made a second version with extra cards to prevent deckouts, but I only had the chance to test it once (it was an EM tho).

Unforuntately, this doesn't always work. Hecate won't use Nightmare if your hand is clogged, so holding onto your Sanctuaries isn't a consistent solution.

I'm attempting to solve this problem by adding a Miracle, a Hope, and another tower, and so far, I've had more success than with the old deck.

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I got an EM with this today, despite going through half the deck before getting a Miracle. Holy Lights should remain unupgraded to avoid mulligan problems.

[majofa]

Hecate only has 2 copies of Nightmare in his deck.

The other cards in his hand would be Vampire Dagger, Dusk Mantle, and (3x) Eclipse.

[Submachine]

One way to get rid of Hecate's Nightmares is to delay putting up your first Sanctuary, but that is only viable if his damage is notably slow.