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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225124#msg225124
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2010, 05:17:02 am »
Gravity finally has damage...win.

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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225125#msg225125
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2010, 05:19:47 am »
The only problem that I have with the card is the wording and its relationship with Adrenaline:

Smaller creatures gain more extra attacks

Seeing as how smaller is /usually/ the opposite of larger, this could cause a lot of issues with the wording of the cards, leading more people to believe that larger creatures = more attack creatures.
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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225128#msg225128
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2010, 05:27:10 am »
Change the wording on adrenaline to "weaker". Weaker/stronger = attack, smaller/larger = hp.

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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225132#msg225132
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2010, 05:30:29 am »
I assume larger means more hp.

How would shields affect this? It would seem like physical damage, but damage that only hits once is usually spell. It would make sense to have momentum too, so it'd probably ignore shields anyway.

So.. a damage source that isn't reflected by mirror shield and isn't stopped by sundial?
Think of it as a permanent with momentum. Thats the beast analogy I have until its in the trainer. Sundial wont stop it due to it being an activated ability.

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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225142#msg225142
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2010, 05:40:27 am »
lol, if ETG releases had names like, say, ubuntu releases, this would be 1.26
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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225143#msg225143
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2010, 05:41:11 am »
Very powerfull card, it looks like. Im impressed. Just need to clarify whats larger really means, damage ratio, and how will it interact with shields, if having damage reduced / reflected.

If it larger really means big HP, this is a very powerfull card to gravity. And please dont give it to Gemini :P

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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225146#msg225146
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2010, 05:50:14 am »
[00:49:17] zanzarino: Yes, it uses this formula:
[00:49:37] zanzarino: dmg=40*HP/(40+HP)
[00:50:13] zanzarino: It means that for creatures up to 6hp
[00:50:16] zanzarino: dmg=hp
[00:51:14] zanzarino: A creature with 50 hp does 23 damage
[00:51:29] zanzarino: 75hp=27damage

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Re: Catapult https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225154#msg225154
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2010, 06:03:28 am »
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225161#msg225161
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2010, 06:15:26 am »
Catapault is in trainer now.
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225167#msg225167
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2010, 06:28:37 am »
I think the damage ratio is too low and this card is too weak
you have to play a Catapult, then play a Massive Dragon which does 8 damage every turn and activate the skill for only 18 damage
you lose much more for throwing a Titan, that wasted 3 cards in total, for only 23 damage
while unstable gas can deal 20 damage by itself

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225170#msg225170
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2010, 06:33:28 am »
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225178#msg225178
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2010, 06:49:04 am »
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