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Re: AI3 Grinder Mono-Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30472.msg443686#msg443686
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2011, 11:37:06 pm »
:gravity is one of the elements that benefit a lot when upgrading. Especially Sapphire charger. 5 :gravity for a momentumed 4 attacker is sort of subpar, but when you upgrade it, you get a superb mid range attacker with a powerful unblockable 7 atk for the same cost.

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Re: AI3 Grinder Mono-Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30472.msg506269#msg506269
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2012, 08:09:24 pm »
I don't know if people have so much  :electrum or they gonna buy this deck to grind ai 3 or buy a deck to grind gold.
maybe am I wrong but I think newbies can better get an un upgraded deck to grind ai 3

I have to agree. If you are going to build an AI3 grinder it better be unupped.

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Re: AI3 Grinder Mono-Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30472.msg519192#msg519192
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2012, 02:50:26 pm »
Every time I see "AI3 grinder" but then click to see an upped deck I both laugh and cry a little.
There is no "Big Crunch". The very idea of it is idiotic. If the expansion of the universe, caused by the big bang, is, in fact, what causes the flow of time, how would the big bang happen in the first place, without the universe expanding, thus time not flowing in any particular direction?

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Re: AI3 Grinder Mono-Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30472.msg519236#msg519236
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2012, 05:13:06 pm »
Every time I see "AI3 grinder" but then click to see an upped deck I both laugh and cry a little.

My thoughts exactly.

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Re: AI3 Grinder Mono-Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30472.msg519388#msg519388
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2012, 02:31:46 am »
Every time I see "AI3 grinder" but then click to see an upped deck I both laugh and cry a little.
Then again, :gravity is an element that's not known for rushing or being a fast unupped killer.

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Re: AI3 Grinder Mono-Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30472.msg519413#msg519413
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2012, 04:34:17 am »
Every time I see "AI3 grinder" but then click to see an upped deck I both laugh and cry a little.
Then again, :gravity is an element that's not known for rushing or being a fast unupped killer.
Irrelevant.
There is no "Big Crunch". The very idea of it is idiotic. If the expansion of the universe, caused by the big bang, is, in fact, what causes the flow of time, how would the big bang happen in the first place, without the universe expanding, thus time not flowing in any particular direction?

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Re: AI3 Grinder Mono-Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30472.msg519509#msg519509
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2012, 09:32:49 am »
Got the point.
Considering more newbies grind AI3, an un-upped deck would be the most helpful.

However, I agree with furballdn's statement regarding :gravity. As for those who's not against shards, SoF can have many uses when coupled with  :gravity cards  :)
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Re: AI3 Grinder Mono-Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30472.msg519599#msg519599
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2012, 03:29:45 pm »
Every time I see "AI3 grinder" but then click to see an upped deck I both laugh and cry a little.
Then again, :gravity is an element that's not known for rushing or being a fast unupped killer.
Irrelevant.

Grind, in this game - to be able to kill something fast and efficiently while generating money and/or score from it.

Gravity is not a element that can rush or kill something fast un-upped. I come on gravity and post a AI3 grinder, which kills it fast, gives you score/money, and in that way is a good grinder.

You tell me that you laugh and cry when you see a upped AI3 grinder, despite the definition of grinder. We tell you why it's upgraded. You tell us it's irrelevant.


Where's that "Bish Please" meme again...

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Re: AI3 Grinder Mono-Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30472.msg520063#msg520063
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2012, 11:35:00 am »
Every time I see "AI3 grinder" but then click to see an upped deck I both laugh and cry a little.
Then again, :gravity is an element that's not known for rushing or being a fast unupped killer.
Irrelevant.


Grind, in this game - to be able to kill something fast and efficiently while generating money and/or score from it.

Gravity is not a element that can rush or kill something fast un-upped. I come on gravity and post a AI3 grinder, which kills it fast, gives you score/money, and in that way is a good grinder.

You tell me that you laugh and cry when you see a upped AI3 grinder, despite the definition of grinder. We tell you why it's upgraded. You tell us it's irrelevant.


Where's that "Bish Please" meme again...

PS: Please feel free to laugh at old TTW study with upgraded decks, USEM, TADAbow, USEMosis, Powerful Wyrms and a crapton of speedbows out there.
Are you telling me you'd rather pay 45 k to grind AI3 rather than buying instosis to grind FG or plat?
Nobody is talking about the definition of "grind".
It's all about efficiency and optimization.
This is sub-optimal in every single possible aspect. As in, if you manage to kill AI3 with this deck as fast as 40 seconds CONSISTENTLY, that's still too slow.
Here's some math. Divide 4k (the usual 50% chance to win FG deck's electrum per hour) by 20 (the average you get for an AI3 game) you get 200. 200 games to get to 4k. 200 multiplied by 40 seconds = 8000 seconds or 133,33... minutes. As in 2 hours.
I really doubt this deck can 40 second AI3 consistently with EM every single game to get close enough to it's worth in it's FG-farming correspondence.
I also believe I'd get rather bored after 200 games of AI3.

Edit:
I just realized my math part was rather incomprehensible so I'll explain what I did:
4k is the average you get with a 50% chance to win deck vs an FG. By dividing that by 20 I get 200 games to get to 4k electrum or in other words - I'd have to win 200 games for 1 hour in order to get an equal use of this deck as I would get out of an FG farmer, which has an equal value. In the end, I get that I would get the same amount of electrum in 133,33 minutes or roughly 2 hours, so if I get EM (double quanta) I'd need 1 hour to get the same amount of electrum as an FG deck gets for 1 hour.
That means 200 games, 200 wins, 200 EMs and only 40 seconds per game to roughly match the FG deck's EPH.
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Re: AI3 Grinder Mono-Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30472.msg520077#msg520077
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2012, 12:13:45 pm »
There are people here that already grinded FGs for money and want score.
And 40 seconds is very fast really, before speaking, try to think what you say.
Most people that buy a Ai3 grinder upped usually have a good amount of money and a fully upped FG grinder.
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Re: AI3 Grinder Mono-Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30472.msg520532#msg520532
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2012, 11:03:21 am »
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Yay for post on a old thread. Was strolling along and found this.

Anyhow, I think the above deck is probably faster than the one in the OP due to the creatures and for a higher quanta output. It's a neat deck to use.

Playing order: You might want to play a Charger before you play Overdrive. It's just more damage.. short-term. Graviton Guards easily changed with BH, though I think the Guards are good for just slightly speeding up the deck, while BH won't really net you a lot of EM's when you consider only one AI3 is a rainbow. You can also change them with Unstoppables, just so the Charger lasts one turn longer, and in case you get Lobotomized or anything.
looks almost the same as a version i use, i mostly take -1 tower and -1 overdrive for 2 titans but it's really great.
You grind AI3 with an upped deck?
But... why?!?
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Re: AI3 Grinder Mono-Gravity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30472.msg520534#msg520534
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Yay for post on a old thread. Was strolling along and found this.

Anyhow, I think the above deck is probably faster than the one in the OP due to the creatures and for a higher quanta output. It's a neat deck to use.

Playing order: You might want to play a Charger before you play Overdrive. It's just more damage.. short-term. Graviton Guards easily changed with BH, though I think the Guards are good for just slightly speeding up the deck, while BH won't really net you a lot of EM's when you consider only one AI3 is a rainbow. You can also change them with Unstoppables, just so the Charger lasts one turn longer, and in case you get Lobotomized or anything.
looks almost the same as a version i use, i mostly take -1 tower and -1 overdrive for 2 titans but it's really great.
You grind AI3 with an upped deck?
But... why?!?

Because he can, not everyone haves only one upped deck as you know.
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