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Admin substitute https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35874.msg451275#msg451275
« on: January 21, 2012, 10:51:58 pm »
So, SG has been pretty inactive recently. I, and I'm sure many others would like someone to at least temporarily step into the administrator role in order to keep this forum together. This thread is my version of a formal request for such a measure. I know that SG is touchy about such topics (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,30910.0.html), but I think here, the situation is different. SG is not able or has not been active and fulfilling his/her role.

So, SG, will you appoint someone to temporarily substitute for yourself? The community petitions for this (Cue the petition).

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Re: Admin substitute https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35874.msg451276#msg451276
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2012, 10:57:52 pm »
I agree SG have always done an amazing job and I don't want to see someone remplacing her but I think that a temorary sub can be very useful because the forum is kinda blocked when she isn't here and trial war and stuff can't happen.
I hope we can manage to find someone who can do her job during her absence because a such role is way too much important to be not done.
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Re: Admin substitute https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35874.msg451277#msg451277
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2012, 10:59:22 pm »
Our Global mod or someone with tech-savvy skills.
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Re: Admin substitute https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35874.msg451287#msg451287
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2012, 11:45:07 pm »
This happens on the internet. SG has more work on this forum than anyone, and she has her own real life too. Not everyone is going to be around at any given time, not even the most important.

We should be grateful that we even have a community as organized and close as this one, even without our admin currently present.
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Re: Admin substitute https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35874.msg451290#msg451290
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2012, 11:56:20 pm »
The SG is dead, long live the SG!

I do not think any sort of petition to replace SG has any validity because these are SG's forums.  We're all lucky SG has put so much work into them and people quickly forget when they aren't getting the instant gratification they think they're entitled to.

What exactly are we waiting on SG for?  We've done Trials before, they could easily be started up again.  Do we need a new Trial Master?  If so that is what the council is for. 

If there are issues that absolutely require Admin attention then make a list of them so it is easy on SG to quickly solve them.

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Re: Admin substitute https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35874.msg451299#msg451299
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2012, 12:46:23 am »
SG can never be replaced, that said, a backup would be sort of nice during longer times when SG won't be around.
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Re: Admin substitute https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35874.msg451303#msg451303
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2012, 12:50:10 am »
The SG is dead, long live the SG!

I do not think any sort of petition to replace SG has any validity because these are SG's forums.  We're all lucky SG has put so much work into them and people quickly forget when they aren't getting the instant gratification they think they're entitled to.

What exactly are we waiting on SG for?  We've done Trials before, they could easily be started up again.  Do we need a new Trial Master?  If so that is what the council is for. 

If there are issues that absolutely require Admin attention then make a list of them so it is easy on SG to quickly solve them.
The problem is that we seem to be unwilling to do anything without SG's approval. Kevkev has been reluctant to start Trials because SG is not back, and he's not sure whether she wants to keep him as Trial Overseer.

As you mentioned, though, SG isn't the person who usually decides on staff positions; the Council does that. The Council's powers are limited when SG is away though, as her powers are needed for many of our decisions (including hiring staff members).

The only way I can see your suggestion working is if SG gives someone the Administrator position, but not access to the database/FTP client. This way, the new Admin could create boards and assign member titles, but SG would still retain complete control, even if the new Admin goes crazy and removes SG as Admin.

Even so, I don't think SG is willing to appoint a new Admin at all. I'm not sure another one is entirely necessary yet either. The community is still fairly small, and one Admin is still enough. Besides, SG should be back soon; she is currently only on holiday. She doesn't want to spend her time away from real-life work doing Admin work, which is understandable. We should respect that, and be grateful for the time she does spend with us (even on holiday, she still logs into the forum nearly every day).
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Re: Admin substitute https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35874.msg451305#msg451305
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2012, 01:04:10 am »
Petition brings back dark memories from War 2 for some reason.  Hmm...

I really have nothing to add here aside from a word of caution.  It's ultimately SG's decision whether or not a substitute admin is needed and I would strongly suggest that this discussion remains civil and impersonal or else I can just about guarantee that this "petition" will not bring about the effects that you seek.
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Re: Admin substitute https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35874.msg472580#msg472580
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2012, 10:54:09 am »
i like how some people took this COMPLETELY out of context and automatically thought this was a "hang SG and replace her" thread. this is just appointing a vice-admin, not a replacement admin. and i happen to completely agree with this. SG has A LOT of work on this forum and im sure she wouldnt mind a little help when she's gone. but then, im not her, so idk.
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Re: Admin substitute https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35874.msg472595#msg472595
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2012, 12:22:46 pm »
I have an idea about this.

Could  some part of the donations be given to SG? That way s/he might find more motivation (and more reason... really, doing all this work for free is ridiculous) to manage the forum.
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Re: Admin substitute https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35874.msg472596#msg472596
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2012, 12:24:27 pm »
I have an idea about this.

Could  some part of the donations be given to SG? That way s/he might find more motivation (and more reason... really, doing all this work for free is ridiculous) to manage the forum.
I don't think she is doing all of these for money. Giving money to her is just discrediting her

 

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