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MasterWalks Tier Lists-Shields (upped) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66427.msg1281941#msg1281941
« on: October 30, 2018, 10:58:16 pm »
Alright, here is my tier list for Elements Shields. Doing a tier list for a game like Elements is difficult. Some cards, while terrible on their own, may synchronize greatly with other cards. This list is based on Upgraded Shields. as opposed to doing an Unupped tier list like the rest, some shields gain superior abilities when upped. Disclaimer; This Tier list is NOT for beginners nor is it made to influence any deck building choices. Purely for discussion purposes. So I will need to breakdown the ratings by a couple different aspects.
Here are the ratings, in order of importance will be based off;
  • Damage Reduction
  • Range of Creatures Blocked
  • Shields Ability
  • Shields Cost
Before we begin, please be aware that cards who bypass shields (Momentum, SoFree, Poison, etc.) will not be taken into consideration in this tier list, though spell damage will be

S Tier



A Tier



B Tier



C Tier



D Tier



F Tier




Will add in descriptions after some community feedback. I expect there to be many changes to this one.
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« Last Edit: October 31, 2018, 12:00:56 am by MasterWalks »
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Re: MasterWalks Tier Lists-Shields (upped) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66427.msg1281942#msg1281942
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2018, 11:03:44 pm »
UP:

- Turtle shield is pretty much 50% dmg reduction (from D);

- Fog opness for 1 quanta (from A);

- Spine Carapace: poison stacks (from D);

- Diamond Shield: that -3 dmg can be a lifesaver, especially against adrenaline decks (from D);

- Mirror Shield: Firestall alone explains it (from F). (Maybe the same applies to Jade, too, but that variant is less popular.)

DOWN:

- Fire Shield - it may matter in a long stall game, but imagine bringing down an Elite Phase Dragon with only Fire Shield (from B). (I think Perma>Fire.)


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« Last Edit: October 30, 2018, 11:49:30 pm by Wyand »
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Re: MasterWalks Tier Lists-Shields (upped) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66427.msg1281943#msg1281943
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2018, 11:26:11 pm »
Based off of the system I used in the Weapons Tier List:

Tower: +1, good shield to use in place of in-element shields that are lackluster or don't fit the purpose of the deck.
Dissipation: =
Skull: (EDIT) -1, Heavily reliant on RNG and Elite Skeletons still deal 1 damage. I would put it lower if it weren't for the ability to block Malignant Cells.
Bone Wall: =
Gravity: =
Diamond: (EDIT) +1, 3 damage reduction is nothing to laugh about, especially when considering Adrenaline.
Carapace: =
Jade: =
Fire: =
Permafrost: +1, Freezing is a good stalling method even if it only occurs 30% of the time. Also, damage reduction is fairly decent.
Solar: -1, can't be used with Sanctuary and ability is lacking compared to the others.
Mirror: +1, inverse of above.
Hope: =
Fog: =
Wings: +1, Keep in mind that it also blocks all but 2 weapons.
Procrastination: =
Dusk: =
Phase: +1, 6 copies block all damage for 18 turns, which is almost enough to deck out a 30 card deck assuming you start the chain as soon as you start taking damage.

TL;DR: (EDITED)
S Tier: Phase, Bone
A Tier: Dusk, Fog
B Tier: Carapace, Wings, Perma
C Tier: Gravity, Fire, Hope, Diamond
D Tier: Turtle, Jade, Mirror, Tower, Skull, Dissipation
F Tier: Solar
« Last Edit: October 30, 2018, 11:52:34 pm by InsignificantWeeaboo »
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Re: MasterWalks Tier Lists-Shields (upped) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66427.msg1281944#msg1281944
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2018, 11:35:11 pm »
For most upped and mixed metas (tiers roughly ordered):

S: Phase, Perma, BW
A: Fog, Dusk, Wings
B: Jade, Diamond, Skull, Diss, Hope
C: Gravity, Mirror, Turtle, Fire
D: Tower, Spine, Solar
« Last Edit: October 30, 2018, 11:36:52 pm by ddevans96 »
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Re: MasterWalks Tier Lists-Shields (upped) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66427.msg1281945#msg1281945
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2018, 12:22:57 am »
For most upped and mixed metas (tiers roughly ordered):

S: Phase, Perma, BW
A: Fog, Dusk, Wings
B: Jade, Diamond, Skull, Diss, Hope
C: Gravity, Mirror, Turtle, Fire
D: Tower, Spine, Solar

I really like this list. Maybe Perma in A and spine can be higher. I don't rate the way MasterWalks rates decks though.
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Re: MasterWalks Tier Lists-Shields (upped) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66427.msg1281946#msg1281946
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2018, 12:24:03 am »
s: dims
a: wings, fog/dusk, hope, bw (maybe ice shield too)
borderline/tech tier: gravy shield, mirror/jade shield
c: any other shield
meh tier: tower shield solar buckler skull shield

being able to counter 100% something like spell damage or high hp creatures >>>>> random damage reduction (1/2) or damage
(adrenaline and damaging shields is too rare to be counted in tech, u can simply cc in most cases)



how wings and hope are c?
wings can potentially be better than dims and require less slots
hope can block 20 damages (yes it requires a deck around it but 20 damage is insane)

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Re: MasterWalks Tier Lists-Shields (upped) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66427.msg1281947#msg1281947
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2018, 12:34:21 am »
MasterWalks, pls change the graphic for Dusk.

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Re: MasterWalks Tier Lists-Shields (upped) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66427.msg1281948#msg1281948
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2018, 12:34:56 am »
carapace over buckler eh? even tho it takes longer to kill most creatures costs more than buckler and because of this list being upgraded lets annoying things like RoL and squid live
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Re: MasterWalks Tier Lists-Shields (upped) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66427.msg1281949#msg1281949
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2018, 12:42:24 am »
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