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Chival

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HAcker Prblem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=222.msg1867#msg1867
« on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 pm »

Do you like playing for weeks and see a hacker get the same achievements in 10 minutes right next to you? someone from the chat gave me 99999 coins, not on my main acc though , and other players have 300 life an such !
its not the way i enjoy this game any more.
bye
i have a feeling you were playing the trainer (can get as much money as you want and health x 3).. or your just full of s***.

Splunge

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HAcker Prblem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=222.msg1868#msg1868
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 pm »

Can I have your stuff?  ;D

wolfy67

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HAcker Prblem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=222.msg1869#msg1869
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 pm »

The hacker trainer can set player and opponent HP from what I've seen in the screenshots. Not sure about the coins though.  But yeah Wumtog it's a bad feeling when you've spent loads of time farming and improving your deck and a chump comes and has 100% upgrades after an hour of play.

It'll get better though. From reading the flash board it looks like Zanzarino has a couple ideas up his sleeve to deal with this kind of thing.

Wumtog

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HAcker Prblem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=222.msg1870#msg1870
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:34 pm »

Do you like playing for weeks and see a hacker get the same achievements in 10 minutes right next to you? someone from the chat gave me 99999 coins, not on my main acc though , and other players have 300 life an such !
its not the way i enjoy this game any more.
bye

CB!

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HAcker Prblem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=222.msg2096#msg2096
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:35 pm »

It doesn't take too much time with google and you'll find all sorts of hacks for this game.  Most of what I've found has been money/score hacks, but if I poked around for more than 2 minutes I'm sure I could find something else.  I'm not sure if the so-called hacking is server desync problems or not, but I guarantee you they will exist soon, if they don't already.  Seems to be a popular request on some of the boards I saw.  Zanz needs to hash a checksum value of the client-side flash file and compare it with the actual legitimate one when somebody connects or something.

Reality is that PVP hacking exists or will soon It happens with any popular game and should be dealt with.  There's a difference between 'FrankThePigeon' winning once or twice from a server desync issue and 'FrankThePigeon' winning everytime from a server desync issue.  But if PVP hacks/bugs bother you, play the AI.  It's still a lot of fun.

Chival

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HAcker Prblem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=222.msg2097#msg2097
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:35 pm »

lol... wow. i think i went over your head.

the trainer isnt a hack. its a version of the game that let you test out deck ideas.

http://www.elementsthegame.com/trainer

Chival

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HAcker Prblem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=222.msg2098#msg2098
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:35 pm »

So in the meantime, where do we report these people?

If nothing else, they need to be banned immediately.  I'd prefer to do it publicly, if possible.
you don't, because you have no clue if they are cheating or if its the desync bug. so wanting anyone banned at this point is just ignorant. people like you ruin games more than the hackers because your so damn paranoid and you dont care about ruining peoples reputations when theres a very very big chance it was a bug.

JTWood

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HAcker Prblem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=222.msg2099#msg2099
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:35 pm »

I have a hard time believing that someone playing 6 cards for over 40 quantums when they began their turn with 1 card and 8 quantums is anything other than a hack.

JTWood

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HAcker Prblem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=222.msg2100#msg2100
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:35 pm »

So in the meantime, where do we report these people?

If nothing else, they need to be banned immediately.  I'd prefer to do it publicly, if possible.

HAcker Prblem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=222.msg2101#msg2101
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:35 pm »

Report to game.elements@gmail.com

Bear in mind, though, that a lot of 'hacks' can be explained by desync or mutation, and although I'm not zanz, loads of emails that say 'FrankThePigeion is a hacker! Ban him!' would probably get a bit annoying.

And Chival, calm down - it is only a game. Although you are right, mud sticks, and all that.

wolfy67

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HAcker Prblem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=222.msg2102#msg2102
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:35 pm »

No Chival you didn't go over my head. There's the official trainer that you listed. There's also a few hacks floating around. As someone who doesn't agree with or appreciate hacks in multiplayer games I'm not going to say where they exist, just that they do.

One of the hacks I've seen is capable of doing what I listed above plus more. In a solely single player game who cares. But in a multiplayer community it screws with everyone who spent the time and effort to make their deck (character, spells, gear, what ever...) better.

Wumtog

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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:35 pm »

no this is real hacking, and not mutations or the trainer, or whatever im not a noob dont wanna argue about it ! good to hear the programmers think about the problem

 

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