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Re: Game Coding Q&A https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32442.msg429582#msg429582
« Reply #108 on: November 23, 2011, 06:08:34 am »
Are all creatures equally likely through Hatch?
Are any excluded/rare/likely?
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Re: Game Coding Q&A https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32442.msg429592#msg429592
« Reply #109 on: November 23, 2011, 06:21:55 am »
Are all creatures equally likely through Hatch?
Are any excluded/rare/likely?
All creatures are equally likely (except for Fate Egg, Immortal, Devonian Dragon, Scarab and Chimera, which cannot be hatched).
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Re: Game Coding Q&A https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32442.msg429835#msg429835
« Reply #110 on: November 23, 2011, 09:47:20 pm »
What is the order of the factors to make a mutation? (ex. Element, atk, hp, etc.)
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Re: Game Coding Q&A https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32442.msg431875#msg431875
« Reply #111 on: November 28, 2011, 02:43:53 pm »
how does the game RNG work? (i.e. : which is the algorhytm that lies behind the RNG)
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Re: Game Coding Q&A https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32442.msg431925#msg431925
« Reply #112 on: November 28, 2011, 05:48:39 pm »
Is the random pet selection mechanic the same as Fate Egg's?
And is SoSe using the Oracle card engine?
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Re: Game Coding Q&A https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32442.msg432030#msg432030
« Reply #113 on: November 28, 2011, 10:29:44 pm »
What is the order of the factors to make a mutation? (ex. Element, atk, hp, etc.)
I'm not entirely sure what you mean here.

When the Mutation skill is cast, it is first checked whether the creature should die. It is then checked whether to turn in into an Abomination. If neither of these happens, it turns into a random non-upgraded creature with status 'mutation'. If the Improved Mutation skill is cast, it naturally 'skips' the first two steps.

When a creature with the status 'mutation' comes into play, it first receives a random skill. It then receives a random def boost, then a random ATK boost. It then picks a skill cost.

how does the game RNG work? (i.e. : which is the algorhytm that lies behind the RNG)
The RNG is Actionscript's Math.random() function. It returns a pseudo-random number n, where 0 <= n < 1.

Is the random pet selection mechanic the same as Fate Egg's?
And is SoSe using the Oracle card engine?
The same creature list is used for pets and Fate Eggs, but the probabilities are drastically different (Fate Egg has the same for all, see here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32442.msg447747#msg447747) for pets).

SoSe uses the Oracle card list, but not the engine (the Oracle card engine has a chance to give a nymph).
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Re: Game Coding Q&A https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32442.msg432070#msg432070
« Reply #114 on: November 29, 2011, 12:11:28 am »
What is the order of the factors to make a mutation? (ex. Element, atk, hp, etc.)
I'm not entirely sure what you mean here.

When the Mutation skill is cast, it is first checked whether the creature should die. It is then checked whether to turn in into an Abomination. If neither of these happens, it turns into a random non-upgraded creature with status 'mutation'. If the Improved Mutation skill is cast, it naturally 'skips' the first two steps.

When a creature with the status 'mutation' comes into play, it first receives a random skill. It then receives a random def boost, then a random ATK boost. It then picks a skill cost.
What I meant to ask was does it pick the random element first, a random creature from that element second, stats third, ability fourth, etc or some other order. But you've pretty much answered that.
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Re: Game Coding Q&A https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32442.msg434028#msg434028
« Reply #115 on: December 02, 2011, 09:51:02 pm »
Does it make sense that Miracle never appears in SoSe/Oracle engines?
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Re: Game Coding Q&A https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32442.msg434032#msg434032
« Reply #116 on: December 02, 2011, 09:56:03 pm »
Does it make sense that Miracle never appears in SoSe/Oracle engines?
It does, for one simple reason: the Oracle and SoSe picks a random card from a list of cards. Miracle isn't in that list.
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Re: Game Coding Q&A https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32442.msg434049#msg434049
« Reply #117 on: December 02, 2011, 10:24:19 pm »
How is the value of each oracle card (in electrum) determined? From what I can remember, Crusader gave over 600, Deja Vu gives 80 and Sky Blitz gives around 10.

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Re: Game Coding Q&A https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32442.msg434882#msg434882
« Reply #118 on: December 04, 2011, 07:47:12 pm »
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Actually, I think it is (or was) possible spin an unupgraded Gratitude, Divinity, or Readiness shard at least on 1.28  - there's a fortune for them and I remember seeing a screenshot of one at some point.

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As for my question:
Is there any way to know how cards are coded into the game?

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Re: Game Coding Q&A https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32442.msg434941#msg434941
« Reply #119 on: December 04, 2011, 10:20:25 pm »
How is the value of each oracle card (in electrum) determined? From what I can remember, Crusader gave over 600, Deja Vu gives 80 and Sky Blitz gives around 10.
The raw value of each card is given by rarity*5 (where rarity is the 'tier' discussed here (http://elementscommunity.org/wiki/articles/the-secrets-of-card-buyingselling-price/)).

It then goes through these steps:
1. 25% chance to double electrum.
2. 25% chance to double electrum.
3. 25% chance to double electrum.
4. 25% chance to double electrum.
5. 25% chance to double electrum.

So at the end of it you'll usually have the raw electrum doubled once or twice (or more if you're lucky).

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Actually, I think it is (or was) possible spin an unupgraded Gratitude, Divinity, or Readiness shard at least on 1.28  - there's a fortune for them and I remember seeing a screenshot of one at some point.

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That's interesting, but I'm studying the 1.293 version of the game, not the 1.28 version. ::)

As for my question:
Is there any way to know how cards are coded into the game?
That's quite a broad question. I'm fairly sure I know how cards are coded into the game in general but I'm not sure what your question specifically means. Could you clarify?
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