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Re: [POLL] The worst element http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg76354#msg76354
« Reply #48 on: May 28, 2010, 05:47:48 am »
Poor Light and Air..


Incidentally, Light has a synergy with Air.. so this makes me laugh. Although, those are two of my favorite elements.  :)

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Re: [POLL] The worst element http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg76355#msg76355
« Reply #49 on: May 28, 2010, 05:56:56 am »
I bet if i change the vote option to a card that represent that element, the vote will totally overturn

 :aether to Quintessenc
 :air to Firefly Queen
 :darkness to useless Improved Dusk
 :death to Bonewall
 :earth to Graboid
etc...

For example.....

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Re: [POLL] The worst element http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg76363#msg76363
« Reply #50 on: May 28, 2010, 06:11:40 am »
I don't think a mono deck should be the test because 99% of mono decks are not viable after you graduate past AI-3. I would say the test would be: when constructing a rainbow deck, which element(s) is not represented?

By the rainbow criterion, I would pick Light or Water as the weakest element. Improved Miracle can be a lifesaver, but it competes with Sundials for the Light Quanta. Permafrost is nice against immortal creatures, but it doesn't have the all-around usefulness of Bone Wall and Phase Shield. When I know that I'll be facing a poison-heavy FG, I add a Purify or two, but not many FGs do use poison. So my basic rainbow has no Light or Water cards, but I do switch in the ones I mentioned when appropriate according to an Oracle prediction.

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Re: [POLL] The worst element http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg76372#msg76372
« Reply #51 on: May 28, 2010, 06:41:36 am »
I don't think a mono deck should be the test because 99% of mono decks are not viable after you graduate past AI-3. I would say the test would be: when constructing a rainbow deck, which element(s) is not represented?
Seriously? Graboids decks are very common in PvP and one may often run into mono-Earth it in the T50. There are others, Mono-darkness, Mono-Air (Yes, there are some, such as PuppyChow's Mono-Air), Mono-Time with Shards of Readiness, and so forth.

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Re: [POLL] The worst element http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg76893#msg76893
« Reply #52 on: May 29, 2010, 02:07:12 am »
Fire - the best and the worst. Best to play as, Worst to face off. All that critter/permanent control. It annoys me to no end.

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Re: [POLL] The worst element http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg76912#msg76912
« Reply #53 on: May 29, 2010, 02:43:19 am »
your all turning on me. i see how it is.....
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Re: [POLL] The worst element http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg76919#msg76919
« Reply #54 on: May 29, 2010, 02:55:52 am »
:time ??  What's it going to do?!  Draw MORE bad cards?  I will NEVER understand how time mono works.
This looks like a point of view of a person, who thinks that hourglass is the best :time card. I personally think it's a very situational card, mostly useful in duo/trio/rainbow if your deck uses :time mostly to speed it up.
In mono time hourglass is much less useful because you have other awesome cards to play. It's not a good idea to make a deck based on super fast drawing of cheap/weak cards because it will rarely win you a battle. Instead make a deck based on halting your opponent so that he can do nothing at all, while your deck develops at normal speed. This works best with quantum denial or healing, so that you can literally make your opponent unable to do anything, but in mono it can also work in a limited way.
Anyway, in my opinion Eternity is way better than hourglass, just look how powerful/useful it's ability is. It's one of the most expensive weapons, with the most expensive skill and the lowest damage of all, yet so many consider it the best of all weapons. That's because if hourglass is the heart of a time deck, an eternity is the brain.
(Thus decks without eternity are zombies :P )...

I think the main weaknesses of time are no permanent control (protection would be better than destruction) and a lack of offensive creatures good in mono, other than dragons/nymphs. It's definitely not a lack of good cards.
Hmm, admittedly eternity is annoying.  Fair enough.

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Re: [POLL] The worst element http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg76931#msg76931
« Reply #55 on: May 29, 2010, 03:15:11 am »
I bet if i change the vote option to a card that represent that element, the vote will totally overturn

 :aether to Quintessenc
 :air to Firefly Queen
 :darkness to useless Improved Dusk
 :death to Bonewall
 :earth to Graboid
etc...
What?! Dusk Mantle does not represent Darkness! It should be Devourer or Vampire! ;)
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Re: [POLL] The worst element http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg76938#msg76938
« Reply #56 on: May 29, 2010, 03:25:38 am »
air would get almost no votes at all if it were just the one card. ffq kicks that much ass
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Re: [POLL] The worst element http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg77042#msg77042
« Reply #57 on: May 29, 2010, 06:40:48 am »
You can [ quote ] me on that :P

But, fog shield can compare to dusk mantle. In most cases I'd prefer a fog shield because I can play it earlier (thus blocking more attacks overall) and I won't feel the cost at all, while dusk mantle usually makes you play offensive cards 1 turn later than usually.
Hm, I suppose that's true. But I was more or less ripping on Air's unoriginality - all of the other elements either have multiple shields or at least one shield with a cool effect, but I feel that Air just took the shield miss rate from  :darkness, dropped its cost and % effectiveness, and then called it its own. That, in itself, is a weak move.  :(

Yup, looks like the polls are starting to lean the direction... (sorry Acelink ^^; )
I think you're wrong. I mean, how can you know Zanz didn't think about the Fog shield first?
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Re: [POLL] The worst element http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg77103#msg77103
« Reply #58 on: May 29, 2010, 08:46:51 am »
I voted darkness as the worst,
as i base internet games on PVP,,
and assuming this vote means mono decks,
yeah, it sucks.

Why diss on light, so hard?
Its amazing with gold dragons and bless with heal etc.

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Re: [POLL] The worst element http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg77168#msg77168
« Reply #59 on: May 29, 2010, 10:37:49 am »
Darknes sucks cant do nothing on it own needs to steal evrything  light fights on its own has strong creatures the best healing card/s and archangels are great so stfu evryone DARKNES SUCKS

 

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