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Re: [POLL] The worst element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg75671#msg75671
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2010, 04:29:51 am »
I honestly dont see why light and air get so many votes

mono light is insanely strong, think of all the miracles can pull off, and angel are really powerful. Also blessings!

mono air is not as powerful, but then think about how much money your ffq helped you farm to get to where you were, i reli dont think there should be that much hate.
Besides, flying weapon? o.O

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Re: [POLL] The worst element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg75693#msg75693
« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2010, 05:06:35 am »
I honestly dont see why light and air get so many votes

mono light is insanely strong, think of all the miracles can pull off, and angel are really powerful. Also blessings!

mono air is not as powerful, but then think about how much money your ffq helped you farm to get to where you were, i reli dont think there should be that much hate.
Besides, flying weapon? o.O

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The thing with Air is that it lacks an identity. FFQ is a creature factory. Unstable Gas is AoE creature control and direct damage. Thunderstorm is AoE creature control. Owl's Eye and Shockwave is single creature control. Dive is increased damage. And Flying Weapon does something unique. There doesn't seem to be a central "theme" in the Air cards, and not many of them seem to exemplify Air's "freedom of movement".
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Re: [POLL] The worst element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg75696#msg75696
« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2010, 05:17:09 am »
Now, when you say siluran dragon is a good dragon, realize you are complimenting a 13|4 that costs 12, while talking to the guy who expects to be able to get 15 damage for 6.

While time has a monopoly on draw cards, it relies on other elements entirely to supply the cards worth drawing.  In fact, if ANY other element had draw cards in it, I'm willing to bet most rainbows would use it instead.

Time's "thing" is drawing cards, but I fail to see any reason why I would want to draw cards early.

Speaking of which, I just got an idea for a new card....
Having one card with those stats frees up two other cards that can be used. While you use your three cards on Frogs, I'll bring out an eternity and a sundial and rewind you so you're stuck at 15 damage the rest of the game...It's all about opportunity cost and card combinations. Pure damage can easily be stopped by time. It not only draws cards, it delays the game and allows time to set up. Flying eternities can be one of the strongest setups in the game, once it is ready to go.

Any drawing cards early gives you a distinct advantage.. how could you not want that? If you have 10 cards drawn and i have 20, who is more likely in a better position?

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Re: [POLL] The worst element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg75715#msg75715
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2010, 06:16:24 am »
I voted for time.

Mostly because of personal preferences. I find Time really useful when added in to different decks, but Time alone just feels like a tedious task. I think that Time actually does fill it's role quite nicely for slowing things down and speeding things up. But, I don't like playing drawn out games if I can help it.  :)

But, I really don't have any least favorite, I just chose time because I have the least fun playing with it alone.

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Re: [POLL] The worst element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg75779#msg75779
« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2010, 08:35:31 am »
:time ??  What's it going to do?!  Draw MORE bad cards?  I will NEVER understand how time mono works.
This looks like a point of view of a person, who thinks that hourglass is the best :time card. I personally think it's a very situational card, mostly useful in duo/trio/rainbow if your deck uses :time mostly to speed it up.
In mono time hourglass is much less useful because you have other awesome cards to play. It's not a good idea to make a deck based on super fast drawing of cheap/weak cards because it will rarely win you a battle. Instead make a deck based on halting your opponent so that he can do nothing at all, while your deck develops at normal speed. This works best with quantum denial or healing, so that you can literally make your opponent unable to do anything, but in mono it can also work in a limited way.
Anyway, in my opinion Eternity is way better than hourglass, just look how powerful/useful it's ability is. It's one of the most expensive weapons, with the most expensive skill and the lowest damage of all, yet so many consider it the best of all weapons. That's because if hourglass is the heart of a time deck, an eternity is the brain.
(Thus decks without eternity are zombies :P )...

I think the main weaknesses of time are no permanent control (protection would be better than destruction) and a lack of offensive creatures good in mono, other than dragons/nymphs. It's definitely not a lack of good cards.
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Re: [POLL] The worst element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg75807#msg75807
« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2010, 11:11:01 am »
Interesting.... only Gravity doesn't have a vote here. Really surprised someone picked earth.

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Re: [POLL] The worst element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg75808#msg75808
« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2010, 11:11:49 am »
Anybody saying Light sucks dare fight me mono vs mono, duo vs duo, or whatever?
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Re: [POLL] The worst element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg75826#msg75826
« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2010, 11:54:56 am »
Anybody saying Light sucks dare fight me mono vs mono, duo vs duo, or whatever?
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Re: [POLL] The worst element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg75828#msg75828
« Reply #32 on: May 27, 2010, 12:04:35 pm »
I'm going to vote for light. It has weak offense (except it's dragon, but then all dragons are offensive), no creature control (except against dark/death) or permanent control.

It also has weak shields and the only thing it can really do is heal and stay alive. Sorry  :P
Um... I beg you pardon? Hope is like the strongest shield in the game... No other shield can achieve 18+ defense!

Whoever picked Darkness is on my hit list. I may not be Master of Darkness anymore, but Darkness is still the best element ever.

I'm sorry, Acelink and Unit, but I have to vote for Air on this one. Same reason as Icy, because Air lacks an identity, a "theme".
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Re: [POLL] The worst element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg75841#msg75841
« Reply #33 on: May 27, 2010, 12:29:19 pm »
Voted aether. easily the most boring element with expensive and unwieldy cards.

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Re: [POLL] The worst element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg75860#msg75860
« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2010, 12:51:28 pm »
Now, when you say siluran dragon is a good dragon, realize you are complimenting a 13|4 that costs 12, while talking to the guy who expects to be able to get 15 damage for 6.

While time has a monopoly on draw cards, it relies on other elements entirely to supply the cards worth drawing.  In fact, if ANY other element had draw cards in it, I'm willing to bet most rainbows would use it instead.

Time's "thing" is drawing cards, but I fail to see any reason why I would want to draw cards early.

Speaking of which, I just got an idea for a new card....
Having one card with those stats frees up two other cards that can be used. While you use your three cards on Frogs, I'll bring out an eternity and a sundial and rewind you so you're stuck at 15 damage the rest of the game...It's all about opportunity cost and card combinations. Pure damage can easily be stopped by time. It not only draws cards, it delays the game and allows time to set up. Flying eternities can be one of the strongest setups in the game, once it is ready to go.

Any drawing cards early gives you a distinct advantage.. how could you not want that? If you have 10 cards drawn and i have 20, who is more likely in a better position?
Me.  Because while you've drawn twenty cards, six of those are sundials, two of those are hourglasses, six of those are dejas, and six of those are dragons you can't afford because you're wasting your quanta on reverse time.  Six dejas < three frogs.

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Re: [POLL] The worst element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7013.msg75884#msg75884
« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2010, 01:20:04 pm »
Me.  Because while you've drawn twenty cards, six of those are sundials, two of those are hourglasses, six of those are dejas, and six of those are dragons you can't afford because you're wasting your quanta on reverse time.  Six dejas < three frogs.
Why would you take 6 sundials in a mono time deck aiming for creature damage? They are good in scarab decks and :time :light decks, but in mono-time I would definitely take 6 SoGs instead :P

6 SoGs + procrastination > 12 frogs
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