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(Nearly) No Bazaar Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40769.msg504760#msg504760
« on: May 27, 2012, 09:25:51 pm »
I've been thinking about this for a little while. I really enjoy the early part of the game, and I love making decks with a restricted card pool. So, I'm thinking of starting an account to play mostly without the bazaar. In addition to causing me to try to figure out how to make effective strategies out of a very limited and random amount of cards, this should provide the excitement from spinning a useful card far more frequently than happens in the base game (particularly when you're in the have-most-of-everything-upped stage).


I'm thinking of using the following rules:

-The only thing that can be bought from the bazaar are pendulums and pillars. This is just to make it possible to ever use something other than the starter element, which would probably never be able to happen otherwise due to how hard it is to spin the things.

-Selling cards to the bazaar is unrestricted.

-Upgrading cards is allowed, as it isn't part of the bazaar, and restricting it would effectively cut off getting past the unupped stage.

-No idling for long periods of time while spinning the oracle just to amass cards. You must play at least ten games on any day you spin the oracle.

-Starter element must be chosen by RNG.

-No arranged pvp1/pvp2 duels (i.e. no farming). Random pvp1/pvp2 and arranged pvp duel are fine.

-End goal of one or more of the following, depending on what I feel like at the time - some arbitrary score, effective PvP1 deck, (relatively) effective FG farmer, (relatively) effective PvP2 deck.


Any thoughts?

edit: Rules clarified/updated 2014-01-16
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Re: (Nearly) No Bazaar Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40769.msg504761#msg504761
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2012, 09:30:12 pm »
End goal should be A)effective FG farmer and B)effective Bronze farmer.  With those two things you have basically 'won' the game, and only need spend masses of time to amass all the cards in the game.  With that said, this sounds interesting and I might have to try it myself.  Any good RNG sites for randoming an element?

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Re: (Nearly) No Bazaar Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40769.msg504769#msg504769
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2012, 09:35:17 pm »
random.org is what I use.

I like that definition of "won the game" quite a bit. I was planning on going for a bronze farmer as pretty much my first goal apart from ai3, as I find bronze significantly more fun than ai3 in general, and it's not like the electrum rewards are an issue. Also, being able to essentially pick a rare in rarespins is going to be very valuable.

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Re: (Nearly) No Bazaar Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40769.msg504770#msg504770
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2012, 09:36:07 pm »
Sounds fun, although I don't use the bazaar that much. The only important part the bazaar has is in the beginning, when you need that specific card. Most cards can be won via AI3 or arena, and the commonly dropped cards are usually teh better ones.

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Re: (Nearly) No Bazaar Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40769.msg504793#msg504793
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2012, 10:24:39 pm »
Much harder than it looks (especially after I RNG'd gravity -.-).  Work on AI3 most of the time, eventually perhaps you'll get a usable-enough deck to go after AI4.  FGs are impossible as you need to buy a card from the bazaar to go on with quests.

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Re: (Nearly) No Bazaar Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40769.msg504795#msg504795
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2012, 10:31:14 pm »
As it's allowed to buy pillars/pends, it's possible to progress on quests. I suppose if you wanted to go really hardcore and prohibit pillars/pends, you could still progress on quests by just selling/rebuying one of your starting pillars.

RNG gave me air. Could be worse, could be better. I'm currently attempting to conquer pvp1 without having won anything besides a wings from oracle.

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Re: (Nearly) No Bazaar Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40769.msg504808#msg504808
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2012, 11:12:22 pm »
An interesting idea. Maybe card cost is already too low in the game. And maybe there will be a possibility for the second upgrade or some other way to spend electrum in the future.
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Re: (Nearly) No Bazaar Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40769.msg1121229#msg1121229
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2014, 11:33:49 pm »
Woo, necro.

Seeing how I'm spamming chat up talking about this, I figured I might as well bump it and list my updates to the rules.

-RNG'ing starting element is required.

-No spinning oracle on days where you don't play at least ten games.

-No playing arranged pvp1/pvp2 matches (i.e. no farming). Random pvp1/pvp2 is fine, as is arranged pvp duel.

Also, since I appear to have lost my old account, I started a new one. Currently rocking ai3 with a pretty craptastic random earth/life duo.

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Re: (Nearly) No Bazaar Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40769.msg1121234#msg1121234
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2014, 12:06:35 am »
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Re: (Nearly) No Bazaar Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40769.msg1121252#msg1121252
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2014, 02:28:35 am »
Named my alt Aetherfish.

...

Legends say the aetherfish is an ancient, ancient, ancient creature living at unfathomable depths. That one of its drooping, sunken and indifferent eyes can see through all of eternity and that it would be omniscient...

...if it wasn't a fish.

Guess what Element I spun?



Mothaeffin' :aetherbig
(actually kinda sucks for this challenge due to 4 Sparks, but who cares)



Spoiler for Picatures and ancient and epic storyline of the first day of the adventure of the aetherfish:



The ancient aetherfish begins this challenge by removing 3 Sparks and 4 Amethyst Pillars from the terrible Aether starter deck. It then changes mark to Entropy. The only reason it keeps one Spark is for the Mutation.



The aetherfish is slow on quanta and offense, but once it manages to gather its tiny brain for a second, it does still hold the unbelievable, completely 100% unmatched power of Aether. Here it can be seen utterly vaporizing AI0's Gargoyle with the legendary, thunderous, awesome, invincible and unavoidably lethal :aether Lightning :aether.

You better stay the hell back.



The aetherfish won, of course. It sells one Amethyst Pillar and buys one Aether Pillar, mostly because it can. Oh, this is a bazaar-less challenge? Aetherfish doesn't care. It doesn't even know that it's allowed to do that, but it thinks it's a rebel. Incidentally, this finishes two quests for the aetherfish. It bubbles on.

To level 1 AI.





The aetherfish manages the combo it was totally planning on pulling off (totally), and early in a game no less! The feeble AI1 stands no chance despite its powerful early Skull Shield. Or so the aetherfish hopes. Or whatever it feels that's closest to hope.



Sweet plankton! EM! But the aetherfish has yet to win a single card after TWO whole duels. But the aetherfish is well known for its courage, in its own little head anyway, and so it forges on with a smirk that tells a story. A story of a fish who thinks he's being watched by the whole world, and therefore has to act cool.

Nananananananana Nananananananana Aetherfiiiiiiish~



Aetherfish meets a very fat man. He is given a Psion and is told he has the chance to face Hecate. Aetherfish doesn't understand. Takes the Psion and blubs on.
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Re: (Nearly) No Bazaar Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40769.msg1121261#msg1121261
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2014, 03:17:11 am »
RNG gave me #7 - Entropy.

So the mighty Unbaz was created. It turns out entropy is quite playable thanks to mutation.

Spoiler for Collection:


Sold the vulture from the starter deck for one of the quests and I didn't feel the need to buy it back. Not that I am allowed to.

Only usable card I've won so far was a single abomination. :(
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Re: (Nearly) No Bazaar Challenge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40769.msg1121265#msg1121265
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2014, 03:44:58 am »
"Arros" the Light Elementalist has been created!
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