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What is Master of Games?
Master of Games is not a Forum Game in itself. It is a game of Forum Games.
How does it work?
When playing a Forum Game, there may sometimes be a winner (e.g. Scarab) or a winning team (e.g. Push). The winner will receive some points for a special leaderboard. The player atop the leaderboard will get an award, which he/she will keep until someone else gets the lead. The current icon may be redesigned.
Mafia games will also award points to the winning team (the mafia, the town folk, or third parties), but will have its own separate system. There will be a separate icon for winning the most mafias (regardless of which side they were on more).
Do I get points for past victories?
Yes, but please notify a Forum Game Organizer if there is an inconsistency in awarding points retroactively vs. current winners.
How do I know which games will count?
The definition of a 'game' is subjective to every person, but there's a general rule of thumb here. While some games require more strategy, skill, and/or cooperation than others, there are three main rules for a forum game to count towards the Master of Games rankings:
- The game in question provides a tangible 'goal' and non-random responses in order to 'play' (Corrupt a Wish (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/corrupt-a-wish-4-0/), Vending Machine 5.0 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/vending-machine-5-0/), etc. don't count as they lack a vision for how to 'win')
- Games that failed to end correctly due to inactivity, mismanagement, bad structure/rules, or from a lack of a clear winner will not gain points (even retroactively).
- The game must be part of the Forum Games section. Unofficial games in other sections (Off-topic, General Discussion, etc.) will not count.
Is this a Master Title like Master of Time? Or Card Curator? Or Global Moderator? Will I get special privileges if I'm a Master of Games/Mafia Master?
No, and no. There will be no special title underneath your name like the major staffing positions, nor will you get access to other boards or whatnot for being a Master of Games/Mafia Master. This is all just for 'fun'. >_>
Masters of the Past and Present
| Legit | 2013 - August 2015 |
| Kuroaitou | August 2015 - April 2020 |
| Linkcat | April 2020 - Present |
| ddevans96 | 2013 - November 2016 |
| Kuroaitou | November 2016 - Present |
Master of Games Standings (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1prlfRGl1jwwFtNoPSkxoSlUFnjKYt4-WFTCkkQwNco0/edit#gid=0)
Master of Mafia Standings (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nFuILn0PtUXT45WC18f1faX8SqyldcpOT_zSZnXq9tQ/edit#gid=567752985)
Credit to skyironsword for initially making and organizing these:
(Mafia Achievement List) (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w8CGDqxzPIiNw1Ce_ITMGAXyHRgT0LcNAVurAJwEjdU/edit)
(Mafia Achievement Standings) (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l054E5fOVDGl2hi52MQnuhs17tl5Oa8Vr69z5LsbUHE/edit#gid=0)
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Interesting...
Want me to help out with the charts?
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following
just cos
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Interesting...
Want me to help out with the charts?
You mean tables? Oh no, no worries about that; it might be a lot simpler if we just use gdocs for everything, because that way we don't have to deal with extensive tables of doomsauce to organize and space out correctly. The spreadsheets are (or should be) far more readable if they're set up correctly, but thanks again. :)
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Oh, I meant in the sense of sifting and compiling information to find out who played in which mafia game and the like, but if it's all well then that's great, looking forward to finally seeing my name on the list :P
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Standings now fully updated. :)
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Standings now fully updated. :)
you still need unnumbered mafia's right?
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shouldnt andretimpa get 3 points for a 2nd place in fg says? unless i misunderstood something
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Do we get a point penalty for losing in mafia or is it the same as if we wouldn't even participating in one - thus giving 0 zero points?
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shouldnt andretimpa get 3 points for a 2nd place in fg says? unless i misunderstood something
Fixed.
Do we get a point penalty for losing in mafia or is it the same as if we wouldn't even participating in one - thus giving 0 zero points?
0 points. There's no point penalties in any of these games, as that would be somewhat detrimental to playing/hosting a mafia... >_>
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How many points should each game give?
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How many points should each game give?
Sorry for the late response. ^^;
For regular games - Single-player/Team games have different point totals, and have points for first and second place:
Single player 1st place: 5
Single player 2nd place: 3
Team-based 1st place: 4
Team-based 2nd place: 2
And ties reduce point totals by 1 for all those in whatever position. The 'Witch's Game' doesn't count as either unfortunately, because there's no real way of 'scoring' who solved what mystery in a concrete matter (and coming up with such a solution would be a headache just thinking about it).
Mafia games are determined by the number of 'mafia' players that need to be hunted down in a game; if there's only 3 mafia players, it's only worth 3 points. If it's 8, it's worth 8 points, etc.
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How many points should each game give?
Sorry for the late response. ^^;
For regular games - Single-player/Team games have different point totals, and have points for first and second place:
Single player 1st place: 5
Single player 2nd place: 3
Team-based 1st place: 4
Team-based 2nd place: 2
And ties reduce point totals by 1 for all those in whatever position. The 'Witch's Game' doesn't count as either unfortunately, because there's no real way of 'scoring' who solved what mystery in a concrete matter (and coming up with such a solution would be a headache just thinking about it).
Mafia games are determined by the number of 'mafia' players that need to be hunted down in a game; if there's only 3 mafia players, it's only worth 3 points. If it's 8, it's worth 8 points, etc.
In tag, I wanted people to weigh the costs of being ambitious for first vs settling for a good survival rather than just teaming up just to knock whoever is first out from first. Thus the 3/2/2/1/1/1 scoring configuration I detailed.
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How many points should each game give?
Sorry for the late response. ^^;
For regular games - Single-player/Team games have different point totals, and have points for first and second place:
Single player 1st place: 5
Single player 2nd place: 3
Team-based 1st place: 4
Team-based 2nd place: 2
And ties reduce point totals by 1 for all those in whatever position. The 'Witch's Game' doesn't count as either unfortunately, because there's no real way of 'scoring' who solved what mystery in a concrete matter (and coming up with such a solution would be a headache just thinking about it).
Mafia games are determined by the number of 'mafia' players that need to be hunted down in a game; if there's only 3 mafia players, it's only worth 3 points. If it's 8, it's worth 8 points, etc.
In tag, I wanted people to weigh the costs of being ambitious for first vs settling for a good survival rather than just teaming up just to knock whoever is first out from first. Thus the 3/2/2/1/1/1 scoring configuration I detailed.
Still needs to happen.
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In tag, I wanted people to weigh the costs of being ambitious for first vs settling for a good survival rather than just teaming up just to knock whoever is first out from first. Thus the 3/2/2/1/1/1 scoring configuration I detailed.
Still needs to happen.
Fixed - sorry about that eaglgenes101.
I've decided to do this - anyone who wants their game to have a different scoring system is totally fine. BUT you must notify me (or any FGO) regarding your point distribution. and under no circumstances can any player win more than 5 points in any team or single-player game at any time. :D
UPDATE: Games can reward more than 5 points to team or individual player, but please check with the FGO accordingly regarding point distributions.
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Kuro says achievements for mafia would be fun.
I like achievements.
Do you guys like achievements?
Old Achievement List (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bxAfCu3szfP7HsU4-hFR5uIvDwV28XE7QAWio6yOP30/edit)
Please be aware that this list of achievements is outdated, lacks objective descriptions on some achievements, and gives imbalanced point values. This list is an example. The new achievement list will contain different achievements entirely.
Old Achievement List (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bxAfCu3szfP7HsU4-hFR5uIvDwV28XE7QAWio6yOP30/edit) - Please be aware that this list of achievements is outdated.
New Achievement List (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w8CGDqxzPIiNw1Ce_ITMGAXyHRgT0LcNAVurAJwEjdU/edit) - This is the current list of achievements and their descriptions.
Current Standings (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l054E5fOVDGl2hi52MQnuhs17tl5Oa8Vr69z5LsbUHE/edit#gid=0) - These are the current standings for mafia players and their achievements.
Please be aware that achievements only count for mafias 51 and up. Achievements will be checked at the end of every mafia. Please allow reasonable amounts of time for skyironsword to update the standings.
August 28 (Mafia 51+): Irrelevant was replaced with Consolation Prize.
September 2 (Mafia 51+): Trigger Happy Havoc added. Paradise Lost has been made slightly easier.
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I say yes, and I would like to have more opinion on sky's achievements idea. :D
Feel free to post suggestions, concerns, questions, and other thingabobbers before I make the achievement thing its own topic (or merged with another topic for consideration). :)
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As long as these achievements are just for fun and doesn't get you any real advantages - in which they might affect the mafia game itself pretty much - I totally like the idea.
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this fourm have so much games :o
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I say yes, and I would like to have more opinion on sky's achievements idea. :D
Feel free to post suggestions, concerns, questions, and other thingabobbers before I make the achievement thing its own topic (or merged with another topic for consideration). :)
If Achievements for mafia would be implemented, would players instantly get achievements for previously earned feats or would everyone need to start from 0?
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I say yes, and I would like to have more opinion on sky's achievements idea. :D
Feel free to post suggestions, concerns, questions, and other thingabobbers before I make the achievement thing its own topic (or merged with another topic for consideration). :)
If Achievements for mafia would be implemented, would players instantly get achievements for previously earned feats or would everyone need to start from 0?
Everyone will start from zero - I won't be going back to the first mafia ever unless theelkspeaks (and others) want to, because then we'll have nearly 100 names to distribute achievements out. I'd rather we get a fresh start with 51...
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Everyone will start from zero - I won't be going back to the first mafia ever unless theelkspeaks (and others) want to, because then we'll have nearly 100 names to distribute achievements out. I'd rather we get a fresh start with 51...
+1 I wouldn't like to be a guy to do all this work just for some rankings. Especially as we have former Master(s) of Mafia decided on earlier ones.
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Achievements exist now.
Enjoy.
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Post in a thread at any time despite not being involved in the game.
Not sure if this is a good thing. I also think points 2-4 can be repeatable. Winning isn't done too easily, and 1 point isn't that much as it would focus too far on that. (Third Party is usually harder to win, thus 3 points are fine here.)
Overall, well done!
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As seen in the Master of Games thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/master-of-games-main-thread-(in-progress)/), points are already awarded for winning. These achievements will award additional points the first time you have won as a certain party.
Irrelevant has been replaced by Consolation Prize.
Please view the update log for any further changes.
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In the Master of Mafia standings a new
tab should be created for earned achievements. column should be added for earned achievement points.
Here are the following public achievements so far:
Req: Sign up.
Earned by:
Zawadx
worldwideweb3
dawn to dusk
Kuroaitou
skyironsword
UTAlan
qwerter
JonathanCrazyJ
theelkspeaks
iancudorinmarian
Naesala
MeowMeowCat
Espithel
Ginyu
Discord
Linkcat
CrockettRocket
godisnowonline
mathman101
eljoemo
Coffeeditto
AD TienzuStorm
killsdazombies
savvy14112
RavingRabbid
rob77dp
Physsion
Req: Die.
Earned by:
skyironsword
godisnowonline
JonathanCrazyJ
qwerter
rob77dp
Zawadx
Linkcat
AD TienzuStorm
UTAlan
Naesala
killsdazombies
iancudorinmarian
Coffeeditto
savvy14112
Physsion
theelkspeaks
Req: Die as Civilian on Day 1 or Night 1.
Earned by:
skyironsword
Req: Get lynched as Civilian.
Earned by:
godisnowonline
Linkcat
iancudorinmarian
savvy14112
Question: For Medicine Melancholy (3) does persuading others to NOT kill a mafia count? Also for Fatality (3) and Trigger Happy Havoc (3) do lynches count?
Question: For Red Shirt (1), does it count if someone was permanently or temporarily removed of all abilities during the game? Also what about 1U and nU abilities that were exhausted during the game?
Req: Host the game.
Earned by:
Submachine
Req: Be killed by the host.
Earned by:
Physsion
theelkspeaks
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Achievements are to be objective, and therefore will not include any form of psychology.
To protect someone is to target that person with an ability and have them survive something otherwise fatal because of it. Abilities that target the attacker or redirect the kill will not fulfill this purpose.
To kill someone is to target someone with an ability and have them die because of it. Voting is not an ability.
Red Shirt is awarded to people who started with no ability.
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Updated Mafia Achievement List for Mafia 51:
(everything is included. unlisted achievements were not earned by anyone)
Req: Sign up.
Earned by:
Zawadx
worldwideweb3
dawn to dusk
Kuroaitou
skyironsword
UTAlan
qwerter
JonathanCrazyJ
theelkspeaks
iancudorinmarian
Naesala
MeowMeowCat
Espithel
Ginyu
Discord
Linkcat
CrockettRocket
godisnowonline
mathman101
eljoemo
Coffeeditto
AD TienzuStorm
killsdazombies
savvy14112
RavingRabbid
rob77dp
Physsion
Req: Win one game as Mafia.
Earned by:
worldwideweb3
qwerter
theelkspeaks
Naesala
Ginyu
Req: Be alive when you win.
Earned by:
worldwideweb3
Req: Win as the only remaining Mafia member.
Earned by:
worldwideweb3
Req: Die.
Earned by:
skyironsword
godisnowonline
JonathanCrazyJ
qwerter
rob77dp
Zawadx
Linkcat
AD TienzuStorm
UTAlan
Naesala
killsdazombies
iancudorinmarian
Coffeeditto
savvy14112
Physsion
theelkspeaks
MeowMeowCat
CrockettRocket
Espithel
Ginyu
RavingRabbid
dawn to dusk
eljoemo
mathman101
Kuroaitou
Discord
Req: Die as Civilian on Day 1 or Night 1.
Earned by:
skyironsword
Req: Get lynched as Civilian.
Earned by:
godisnowonline
Linkcat
iancudorinmarian
savvy14112
dawn to dusk
mathman101
Req: Lose a game.
Earned by:
Zawadx
dawn to dusk
Kuroaitou
skyironsword
UTAlan
JonathanCrazyJ
iancudorinmarian
MeowMeowCat
Espithel
Discord
Linkcat
CrockettRocket
godisnowonline
mathman101
eljoemo
Coffeeditto
AD TienzuStorm
killsdazombies
savvy14112
RavingRabbid
rob77dp
Physsion
Req: Host the game.
Earned by:
Submachine
Req: Be killed by the host.
Earned by:
Physsion
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Are these achievements dead or...?
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Are these achievements dead or...?
Technically? No.
The issue currently still in play is that Mafia 54 has -not- been updated in regards to the information being supplied at the end (i.e. - roles/role usage was not revealed by the host), so achievements that rely on that information has been halted indefinitely until that game information is given. Until then, Mafias 51-53 (alongside Mafias 55-57) are correct and relatively up to date.
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Would it be an idea to have MoM points decay over time or is that a bad idea? eg lose 5% of your points for each game you don't participate in
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Kuroaitou has taken the title of Master of Mafia from the previous wielder, ddevans96.
Congratulations to Kuroaitou for claiming both the Master of Mafia award and the Master of Games award! He is now the most decorated member in the entire forum.
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(https://gyazo.com/0f35886f3d26db77d8571fa552a46d3d.png)
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:(
EDIT: ACTUALLY, I'M NOT FGO ANYMORE LINKCAT SO WHAT NOW? :P
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Now, I come for the rest.
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Five years.
That's how long it's been since I signed up for my first forum game here, and since I earned my first Master of Games points. I've played in almost every forum game hosted here since then. While I've made countless memories and many friends along the way, during all of that time I was in pursuit of a single goal. I wanted to be the best. I felt like I accomplished everything I wanted to in mafia a while ago, but for the other half of the section, especially after the travesty that was Relic Sweeper 2, one man always stood in my way. Kuroaitou. Despite my best efforts, the gulf in points was simply too great, and the Master of Games title eluded me. For five long years, I was unable to overcome the legend that we all know and love.
Until today.
Spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1prlfRGl1jwwFtNoPSkxoSlUFnjKYt4-WFTCkkQwNco0/edit#gid=0)
2 points - Elements - Tag! ~ by eaglgenes101 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/elements-tag!-~-by-eaglgenes101/), February 17th - May 26th 2015, 3rd place
3 points - Elements - Tag (2)! ~ by eaglgenes101 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/elements-tag-(2)!-~-by-eaglgenes101/), July 17th -October 13th 2015, 1st place
3 points - Quantafied 2 - by Kuroaitou (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/quantafied-2-by-kuroaitou/), April 11th - June 1st 2016, 2nd place
5 points - Paradise Lost 3 - by Fippe94 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/paradise-lost-3-by-fippe94/), October 10th 2016 - January 3rd 2017, 1st place
5 points - False God Says 3 - by ji412jo (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/false-god-says-3-by-ji412jo/), January 13th - January 22nd 2017, 1st place
3 points - Toy Tanks - by Naii_the_Baf (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/toy-tanks-by-naii_the_baf/), July 10th - August 27th 2017, 1st place
1 point - Witch's Game Mini - by Submachine (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/witchs-game-mini-by-submachine/), May 15th - May 16th 2019, 1st place
3 points - Finger Guns at High Noon - by Submachine (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/finger-guns-at-high-noon-by-submachine/), March 21st - April 17th 2020, joint 1st place
With this, the Master of Games icon is awarded to Linkcat, taken from its previous holder Kuroaitou.
The last major item on my Elements bucket list has been completed. I can't really express how much this means to me, but I will say this:
I love Elements. I love forum games. I love all the hosts that set the bar for quality so high, that I am sure this is one of the top forum game sections on the internet, and I love all the members of the community who made running it possible. May its spirit live on.
Thanks for playing.
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*shrivels into the wind*