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Re: General Discussion & Mafia Ideas, Balancing, and Critiques https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63738.msg1290471#msg1290471
« Reply #84 on: June 04, 2019, 12:13:39 pm »
I am not familiar with all functions of Discord, but until the following things get sorted out, I highly advise against using it in any future mafias:
  • Discord voice chat: Everything said in voice chat cannot be tracked.
  • Deleting messages: Discord messages can be deleted without trace.
  • Fake usernames: Anyone can log in and pretend to be someone else. If someone creates a new account just for this, it cannot be tracked who the account belongs to.
  • Editing messages: Messages can be edited multiple times. If Discord only shows the last modification, untrackable information can be created.
We can likely address all those things in Discord, but for now I made you a blab channel that shouldn't be accessibly by guests.
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Voice chat is the same as private chat. It's forbidden by default, with no real way for the FGO to know otherwise (I don't condone this but it's kinda true)
Deleting and editing messages can be removed from a #mafia chat by editing permissions to the channel
Fake usernames: Guests in chat are somewhat similar. Someone can easily change their IP address and enter chat as an unknown guest. Furthermore, you can require people to have a "Mafia" role to post in, or even see the channel. Note as well, that I do not condone being an unknown guest.

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Re: General Discussion & Mafia Ideas, Balancing, and Critiques https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63738.msg1290479#msg1290479
« Reply #85 on: June 04, 2019, 02:49:36 pm »
Deleting messages: Discord messages can be deleted without trace.

There are several bots that track discord message edits and deletes.


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Re: General Discussion & Mafia Ideas, Balancing, and Critiques https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63738.msg1290542#msg1290542
« Reply #86 on: June 05, 2019, 08:00:19 am »
Opposing opinions were stated in chat about what counts and what doesn't count as talking about mafia, so we should clarify it. This is a joined effort, so share your opinions please. The current rule is as follows:

"9. [...] You may communicate in the official Elements chat, but all relevant messages MUST be posted in this thread."

This rule should not be used when the shared information is not relevant enough. For example, if someone asks if another mafia player is online, that should not warrant a modkill. However, asking about a game mechanic can be relevant to all other players. So where is the boundary?

For starters, we had a long chat about whether talking about chatlogs is relevant enough to warrant a modkill. It is a game mechanic, but it would suck to modkill someone just for that.
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Re: General Discussion & Mafia Ideas, Balancing, and Critiques https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63738.msg1290543#msg1290543
« Reply #87 on: June 05, 2019, 08:18:43 am »
There are several options for how we deal with chat after Mafia 71, but none of them will involve the required posting of chat logs, so any discussion on this will only be relevant for Mafia 71.
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Re: General Discussion & Mafia Ideas, Balancing, and Critiques https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63738.msg1291059#msg1291059
« Reply #88 on: June 16, 2019, 07:17:24 pm »
There are several options for how we deal with chat after Mafia 71, but none of them will involve the required posting of chat logs, so any discussion on this will only be relevant for Mafia 71.

Now that Mafia 71 is over - are there any options you're considering as a general rule?
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Re: General Discussion & Mafia Ideas, Balancing, and Critiques https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63738.msg1291065#msg1291065
« Reply #89 on: June 16, 2019, 08:04:45 pm »
With mafia having its own chatroom there is no need for logs; would be nice to not have to go to history to see anything at all though

(there is no annoyance when no other stuff gets posted inbetween and after, its essentially a direct extension of the thread then)
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Re: General Discussion & Mafia Ideas, Balancing, and Critiques https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63738.msg1291076#msg1291076
« Reply #90 on: June 17, 2019, 06:52:42 am »
The discussion rules we used for 71 have worked in the past, but this time it got out of control, so it is no longer one of our options, which are now as follows:

1) Free communication
2) Blab allowed but only in a separate mafia room
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After 72, we will have played a game with 1), a game similar to 2), and a game with 3). Then, having gotten a feel for all of the options, we will decide what direction we want to take.
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Re: General Discussion & Mafia Ideas, Balancing, and Critiques https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63738.msg1291080#msg1291080
« Reply #91 on: June 17, 2019, 09:47:12 am »
The discussion rules we used for 71 have worked in the past, but this time it got out of control, so it is no longer one of our options, which are now as follows:

1) Free communication
2) Blab allowed but only in a separate mafia room
3) Thread only

After 72, we will have played a game with 1), a game similar to 2), and a game with 3). Then, having gotten a feel for all of the options, we will decide what direction we want to take.

Kinda dont mind changing it up, not sure finding "the best" way and sticking to it is the way, creates a slightly different dynamic and game changing allowed comms options (like allowing pms)
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Re: General Discussion & Mafia Ideas, Balancing, and Critiques https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63738.msg1291086#msg1291086
« Reply #92 on: June 17, 2019, 12:41:12 pm »
Isn't the mafia blab really broken right now?

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Re: General Discussion & Mafia Ideas, Balancing, and Critiques https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63738.msg1291130#msg1291130
« Reply #93 on: June 18, 2019, 05:38:31 am »
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Re: General Discussion & Mafia Ideas, Balancing, and Critiques https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63738.msg1291133#msg1291133
« Reply #94 on: June 18, 2019, 06:46:06 am »
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Re: General Discussion & Mafia Ideas, Balancing, and Critiques https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63738.msg1291174#msg1291174
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