MasterWalks (3) - serprex, Mobian, PlayerOa
No Lynch (1) kaempfer13
Need all the players we can get
I don't negotiate with noobs.
I wanna sign up :eyes:
I mean, kind of a scum move to try to force the rest of us into a binary decision. Sounds almost.... cultish.....
I mean, kind of a scum move to try to force the rest of us into a binary decision. Sounds almost.... cultish.....
Lol, is there another option? Shoot or don't shoot. It's all 1s and 0s. You can try to be non-binary if ya want, I can't tell you what to do. If you holster you're either bad scum or worse town.
Also, only reply/agree with me if you're town. If your scum, go ahead and disagree
Fixed it for you.
@Mobian, you should tunnel on the Cool64Kid. Make them talk a lot so we can get a read on em.
Anyways, as a truly civilized person, I do not condone the personal cracking of eggs at all! Nay, for I believe that all eggs must be purchased in carton form, for easy pouring onto the frying pan.Plz tell me this is an April Fool's joke. This is so so wrong. This is actually offensive.
Anyways, as a truly civilized person, I do not condone the personal cracking of eggs at all! Nay, for I believe that all eggs must be purchased in carton form, for easy pouring onto the frying pan.
I have two confessions to make.
First, I haven't read my role pm yet. (for obvious reasons)
Second, I don't actually like eating eggs by themselves.
If you choose to lynch me for these heresies, I will humbly accept my fate.
@Timpa, post something so I can tunnel you
@Timpa, post something so I can tunnel you
u stink lol
So this was supposed to be a joke where the "obvious reasons" were that I didn't get one, and then I would pretend that I actually did get one and the "obvious reasons" were that I wasn't taking the game seriously and would troll at every opportunity, but I guess I expected too much from this lot.You do yoga? Cuz that's stretching for something.
@serp Does the cop ability tells you which cult someone is in?
Now I'm just never going to read this out of spite.Is this even legal?
(https://gyazo.com/594c4049769cc1d10c536bfc5975fdc3.png)
Now I'm just never going to read this out of spite.Is this even legal?
(https://gyazo.com/594c4049769cc1d10c536bfc5975fdc3.png)
So let me get this straight, you actually had received a pm on the day a game started where the role may require (in order to not throw) to open your inbox within the first (rl) day and never read it?
Its been to long that ive used my inbox without immediately reading everything, is it even possible to open the inbox and have pms marked as unread after?
Updated D1 post with a countdown
Day phase is 48 hours. 5 players can agree to ending day early
Night phase is 24 hours
mw, i suggest you read the rules. Only ways to actually die is to be recruited twice or lynched. Your goals throughout the game may shift though.
Updated D1 post with a countdown
Day phase is 48 hours. 5 players can agree to ending day early
Night phase is 24 hours
Upon the 5th person's agreement, does everything lock in and wait for your tally?
mw, i suggest you read the rules. Only ways to actually die is to be recruited twice or lynched. Your goals throughout the game may shift though.Cult leaders can also kill each other. There was a chance of that happening too.
mw, i suggest you read the rules. Only ways to actually die is to be recruited twice or lynched. Your goals throughout the game may shift though.
Cult leaders can also kill each other. There was a chance of that happening too.
-snip-
@Mobian no they cant?
Hol up. No NK? Damn Link, that's some 4d chess.WRT vote: So when you are this convinced that link is scum, why are you not voting him and also encouraging people to jump on other wagons?
Either Link is smart and didn't NK while he's got heat on him, or he is like me and didn't realize phases are only 24 hours.
Other option is Coolkid and Oa are scum. Coolkid seems inactive and Oa is invading Italy. Could replace one of those names with shock or RootRanger for same results.
Hol up. No NK? Damn Link, that's some 4d chess.WRT vote: So when you are this convinced that link is scum, why are you not voting him and also encouraging people to jump on other wagons?
Either Link is smart and didn't NK while he's got heat on him, or he is like me and didn't realize phases are only 24 hours.
Other option is Coolkid and Oa are scum. Coolkid seems inactive and Oa is invading Italy. Could replace one of those names with shock or RootRanger for same results.
I was about to post how I wasn't sure if NK was even a thing before you told me to read the rules. I deleted the draft and went to read the rules in shame.
Link is an easy lynch right now. In fact, he's really the only one that anyone can fully scumread since no one got information last night. I'm voting root because he's a low poster and I want to apply pressure. I'm sure Mobian is voting CoolKid for the same reason. The other people I name dropped are also low posters, and the only one with an excuse is Oa. Im wanting to start a wagon on any of these people to get them to talk. Most likely, we lynch Linkcat today no matter what.
Post count or not, the only real contribution so far has been from andre. And he wasn't even digging too deeply.
For everyone else, here's a chance to offer your thoughts on real strategy. I'll give an easy question and a hard one. Interested in seeing what people to have to say.
1. How many cultists do you think currently exist? What is your level of certainty in your answer?
2. Let's say you find a cultist in Night 1. Do you lynch them the next day or choose someone else? Do you reveal this information at all?
Are there roles? Like wtf is happening this game.
Are there roles? Like wtf is happening this game.
Are there roles? Like wtf is happening this game.
1. How many cultists do you think currently exist? What is your level of certainty in your answer?
2. Let's say you find a cultist in Night 1. Do you lynch them the next day or choose someone else? Do you reveal this information at all?
1. How many cultists do you think currently exist? What is your level of certainty in your answer?
2. Let's say you find a cultist in Night 1. Do you lynch them the next day or choose someone else? Do you reveal this information at all?
1. I think both leaders used their abilities and odds of none of them hitting each other is pretty good, so I'd say 4 with good confidence.
2. I think the best play is to reveal the info and not lynch them (let the rival leader kill them in N2 if they want). I'm open to arguments against this tho.
1. Noone died, so I take it that no crosstream occured (technically the rules didnt explicitly make clear what happens in a crosstream as opposed to nonsimultaneous recruitment). This leaves only holstering and targeting the other leader (2 1/9 chances) for having less than 2 (new cultists), so about 77% (rounding down where I should round up because of holstering and inactivity).
For everyone else, here's a chance to offer your thoughts on real strategy. I'll give an easy question and a hard one. Interested in seeing what people to have to say.
1. How many cultists do you think currently exist? What is your level of certainty in your answer?
2. Let's say you find a cultist in Night 1. Do you lynch them the next day or choose someone else? Do you reveal this information at all?
@MW You also need to take into account that the 2 cults are rivals. They still have to eliminate each other to win and even if the whole town gets overrun by cultists, the game is not over.
To clarify crossed streams: the target dies a townie
To clarify crossed streams: the target dies a townie
Does it make a difference?
BMs are red,1. Noone died, so I take it that no crosstream occured (technically the rules didnt explicitly make clear what happens in a crosstream as opposed to nonsimultaneous recruitment). This leaves only holstering and targeting the other leader (2 1/9 chances) for having less than 2 (new cultists), so about 77% (rounding down where I should round up because of holstering and inactivity).
For everyone else, here's a chance to offer your thoughts on real strategy. I'll give an easy question and a hard one. Interested in seeing what people to have to say.
1. How many cultists do you think currently exist? What is your level of certainty in your answer?
2. Let's say you find a cultist in Night 1. Do you lynch them the next day or choose someone else? Do you reveal this information at all?
2. Town is not interested in seeing cultists lynched, in fact they are the only way to confirm that someone is not a leader. The reveal part is much more tricky, as we want leaders to cross streams, but also avoid wasting a lynch. Currently leaning towards claiming result only as lynch is imminent (to protect them, crazy, i know).
Kaempfer still salty about my optimal usage of the Anubis role. I do actually want to be converted though, gives a higher chance of winning. Oa, you got me N1 right?Got yo back.
?Kaempfer still salty about my optimal usage of the Anubis role. I do actually want to be converted though, gives a higher chance of winning. Oa, you got me N1 right?Got yo back.
MW, there’s no need to vote pressure me into speaking more - I’ll be posting just as much as time allows me to. Which happens to be a bare minimum. You better lynch me instead if you dislike that.
Also, only reply/agree with me if you're town. If your scum, go ahead and disagree
I mean, kind of a scum move to try to force the rest of us into a binary decision. Sounds almost.... cultish.....
@serp Does the cop ability tells you which cult someone is in?
I didn't though too deeply, but it seems the best strategy for town is to not lynch people we know are cultists, since we want to hit the leaders.
RR generally focusses on mechanics when attempting to solve, which he does here (and when evaluating responses later). keeping in mind his approval of timpas post, especially his 2nd question is important for both probing for reactions and later agree on the best plan for cops with their wincon in mind (which he would want to keep to a minimum if he were in a cult).I was about to post how I wasn't sure if NK was even a thing before you told me to read the rules. I deleted the draft and went to read the rules in shame.
Link is an easy lynch right now. In fact, he's really the only one that anyone can fully scumread since no one got information last night. I'm voting root because he's a low poster and I want to apply pressure. I'm sure Mobian is voting CoolKid for the same reason. The other people I name dropped are also low posters, and the only one with an excuse is Oa. Im wanting to start a wagon on any of these people to get them to talk. Most likely, we lynch Linkcat today no matter what.
Post count or not, the only real contribution so far has been from andre. And he wasn't even digging too deeply.
For everyone else, here's a chance to offer your thoughts on real strategy. I'll give an easy question and a hard one. Interested in seeing what people to have to say.
1. How many cultists do you think currently exist? What is your level of certainty in your answer?
2. Let's say you find a cultist in Night 1. Do you lynch them the next day or choose someone else? Do you reveal this information at all?
Root can't be leader, I recruited him last night.
I'll give a better breakdown when I'm off work in 4 hours or so, but the just of my scumread on him:
He's playing judge on people's post. He keeps claiming x person is making good posts, without actually making a helpful one himself. He's sitting back, getting just enough posts to not get heat for inactivity but isn't saying much. The post you quoted with his 2 questions is the only legitimate post he's made. The first question is dumb af. That's a burner question because the answer cannot be known and there's only 3 options for answers.
The second question has started good discussion on what town should do, but tbh I'm reading more as he wants to know what town will do. If he's leader, and we agreed that we will expose a cultist on discovery, he could totally doc himself one day by exposing his own cultist. He's my biggest natural scumread, where as Link is the biggest most possible scumread due to obvious reasons. At this stage, I'm willing to bet leaders are Link and Root. I have no reads for cultists but I don't think cultists matter yet.
is there a way to be unrecruited? or once recruited you can no longer go back to town.
The second question has started good discussion on what town should do, but tbh I'm reading more as he wants to know what town will do. If he's leader, and we agreed that we will expose a cultist on discovery, he could totally doc himself one day by exposing his own cultist. He's my biggest natural scumread, where as Link is the biggest most possible scumread due to obvious reasons. At this stage, I'm willing to bet leaders are Link and Root. I have no reads for cultists but I don't think cultists matter yet.
Claiming a cop result should in no way be a confirmation that you are a townie (and hence not a leader), since people lie on the internet and there are no flips this game (totally not a bastard).Not sure what you mean exactly? Investigation is absolutely a vital tool. The ideal scenario is to have multiple players in disagreement about an investigation result, such that we'll know one of them is lying (and likely a leader).
After thinking a bit more I think we should weight down the possible value of trying to cross the results of everyone's ability uses and on which point of the game these results should be revealed: maybe doing that with just one ability use is too easy for the cults to play around, but time is also not on town's side
Claiming a cop result should in no way be a confirmation that you are a townie (and hence not a leader), since people lie on the internet and there are no flips this game (totally not a bastard).Not sure what you mean exactly? Investigation is absolutely a vital tool. The ideal scenario is to have multiple players in disagreement about an investigation result, such that we'll know one of them is lying (and likely a leader).
After thinking a bit more I think we should weight down the possible value of trying to cross the results of everyone's ability uses and on which point of the game these results should be revealed: maybe doing that with just one ability use is too easy for the cults to play around, but time is also not on town's side
Well, this game looks fun so far. Glad we're all having some fun discussions.
Being more precise I was thinking of one of 3 strategies:Sounds good, I was thinking along the lines of the first option. I think that if someone finds a cultist, that information should be revealed, although not necessarily immediately. Just as long as it's before the end of the day, to give the rival leader the chance to kill the cultist in the night phase.
- We reveal our targets and results all rounds, starting with the more suspicious players
- Same thing but waiting more than one round
- We reveal any cultists that we find right away and after 2? 3? rounds we reveal all targets starting with the most suspicious players
So Mobian is dead then?
Him just ragequitting when i identify him as scum is consistent with his previous game. Sorry mate! Does make me feel fairly confident though, especially if MW turns up cultist (not like we would get a definitive reveal before game end >:().
Target me tonight. I double dog dare u.I hope you realize that by announcing your target publicly, you make it easier for the actual leaders to come up with fake claims that don't conflict with anyone else. Although if kae is correct, you're a cultist anyways, meaning you can't actually target anyone.
I'm finna target Root. If he comes up town, I'm voting him tomorrow. If he comes up cult I vote link.
BMs are red,1. Noone died, so I take it that no crosstream occured (technically the rules didnt explicitly make clear what happens in a crosstream as opposed to nonsimultaneous recruitment). This leaves only holstering and targeting the other leader (2 1/9 chances) for having less than 2 (new cultists), so about 77% (rounding down where I should round up because of holstering and inactivity).
For everyone else, here's a chance to offer your thoughts on real strategy. I'll give an easy question and a hard one. Interested in seeing what people to have to say.
1. How many cultists do you think currently exist? What is your level of certainty in your answer?
2. Let's say you find a cultist in Night 1. Do you lynch them the next day or choose someone else? Do you reveal this information at all?
2. Town is not interested in seeing cultists lynched, in fact they are the only way to confirm that someone is not a leader. The reveal part is much more tricky, as we want leaders to cross streams, but also avoid wasting a lynch. Currently leaning towards claiming result only as lynch is imminent (to protect them, crazy, i know).
TOs are blue.
From a certain point of view,
Big if true.
Cool64Kid (1) - Mobian
RootRanger (1) - MasterWalks
kaempfer13 (1) - Linkcat
if w3 was already a cultist, he was pretty comfortable voting Linkcat... Idk though, feels like half the players are gamethrowing anyway.
Yh but if he believed in the screenshot, thats a 50% chance to lose instantly. Also it was in response to Link saying he recruited Root ftr.if w3 was already a cultist, he was pretty comfortable voting Linkcat... Idk though, feels like half the players are gamethrowing anyway.
I don't think the cultist is notified of who recruited them. Therefore w3 voting link is probably just based on that screenshot
Given that I havent been recruited I can afford to point this out finally (but it also makes it less likely to be true). This could be a crumb that Linkcat is in the big end club.
There's no reason for a leader to target their own cultist right? That's just self harm as far as I can tell, but I want others opinions.
I heavily doubt he was hit by both leaders tonight, but I also wanna know; as a leader what's the strategy? Do they hit super actives players or do they go for the inactive ones? W3 wouldve been considered inactive, and if shock is telling the truth, that's another pretty inactive one. If there's a pattern, we can assume Andre or CoolKid is the other cultist (I'm not breadcrumbing here, truly speculating).
There's no reason for a leader to target their own cultist right? That's just self harm as far as I can tell, but I want others opinions.
I heavily doubt he was hit by both leaders tonight, but I also wanna know; as a leader what's the strategy? Do they hit super actives players or do they go for the inactive ones?
I believe this makes the most sense. I'm willing to bet kae is being wagoned by link in hopes Root targeted kae N1, or to thin out town. I believe link and shock are in the same cult. I don't think link would target kae, especially if he's trying to shit post his way through, and kae being an ultra active brings attention, risking a lynch.
Actually is there even an alignement link could have where he isnt breaking rule 6?
I'm on mobile, just started my shift at work so it won't be pretty.Not really convinced.
Here's the thing, Oa, CoolKid, and now dead W3 are all variables. We cannot get solid reads on them, regardless of how much you look.
Hence we cant take them of the table either. except for w3, who definitely was a twice recruited towny (timepoint of first recruitment undetermined I suppose, but i dont think its worth getting a towny distracted to check, unless that already happened).
Shock is unpredictable, but rarely a liar. If he's claiming cult, I'm willing to believe it. I'm down to hear how he isn't.
he totally can lie, though the arbitrary "correct" solutions to his "puzzles" are always true. I do believe him here though. And we know I would be his disciple if he were a leader :sillyspin:. It's the law.
Andre and Kae are probably the most helpful, but that doesn't mean not a cultist. In fact, Andre wouldn't be a bad target for recruitment, but cultists don't really matter here. I don't get leader reads from either. Kae could've been recruited, but I think that's a bad recruit. Too active, too much attention.
I will not openly speculate about optimal recruitment strategy (unless it is highly relevant to solving). Towny or cultist are both missed opportunities for the lynch though.
I'm town. Not cultist yet either.
Link is semi confirmed leader.
So it would seem.
As for Root, early game Root was the post judge. He sat back and decided who was useful publicly. This is a pretty power move from a leader.
Meh. You can make a very similiar argument about just being plain inactive.By forcing attention on certain people, he can hopefully influence the other leader. Uh, maybeI think he wants kae or Andre to be recruited so he can kill them Iirc, he favors new recruits over killing cultists for the leader strat. according to what he said anyway, which sounded genuine.. Later, root gets pretty defensive on me from some pretty minor pressure. Root has played games with me in the past, and knows my reputation. He knows I have to fight tooth and nail to get anyone to listen to my proposals. Very interesting thing to defend.
Uh no. You gave minimal actual input (regarding his case, though its still better than what the average person does here) whilst maintaining this read and he finally reacted (fairly composed and rational) after 3 days
According to Kae's Lynch log, and today's votes, Root hasn't started a wagon. He simply joins them. Maybe this is deadline/TZ conflicting, but Kae when we were scum we always piled on wagons and rarely started our own. as scum this is the best way to influence who gets killed without looking too sus.
Well, only 1 Person can start any given wagon. Personally, i generally am not particularly trigger happy and cast my votes late, when the wagons have already started. I think Root is the same? Wouldnt read too much into it. However, he could be using me as sort of a free extra cultist by following my vote consistently.
Linkcat (3) - MasterWalks, andretimpa, kaempfer13
kaempfer13 (2) - shockcannon, Linkcat
dude i wasnt even voting you yet. Be it selfpres, policy lynch or your 2 major giveaways or omgus, i have enough reason to vote you.
Lemme paint a scenario.
Just assume Link and Root are leaders.
N0
Root recruits W3 (familiar name, low chance of lynch)
Link recruits Shock (shitposting the game)
D1
Mobian dies as a clean town.
N1
Root targets ? (Gonna guess Andre due to root helping him)
Link targets W3 (again, shitposting his way through)
W3 dies as cultist.
I believe this makes the most sense. I'm willing to bet kae is being wagoned by link in hopes Root targeted kae N1, or to thin out town. I believe link and shock are in the same cult. I don't think link would target late, especially if he's trying to shit post his way through, and kae being an ultra active brings attention, risking a lynch.
It's hard to break the rules when you make them
Here, let me help town & create a new rule: if more than two thirds of players agree to lynch the least active player, based on total vowels posted & least jokes told that I find funny, that person dies as an additional lynch that day
gonna need a scoreboard of told jokes and what jokes you found funny.
Out with these "i want to play" "oh shit you mean i have to read shit?" players why do I feel this is targeted at me? >:(
I get it, reading is hard, it took me eight years to learn <- this is an example of a joke I find funny
this finding jokes you find funny is gonna be pretty hard
CoolKid is borderline scum read. Like N-.
Posting just enough to not be mod killed (1post) and it's absolutely useless. Ye great discussions that you're not a part of.
Either CoolKid is scum instead of Root, or he got recruited N0. Highly doubt he got recruited.
Bruh, post a read list or something. Literally anything that's not super useless and neutral. Claim cultist, claim town, claim you're actually reading the thread. It's a bastard mod game with a bastard admin breaking any rule he can. Not like you need to think this game through too hard.
Sorry for being inactive, but that’s unfortunately how I intend to roll this week.Why did you choose him? just genuinely curious.
I’ll provide you with some info, though. Root is town.
No real mechanical reasoning, really.Sorry for being inactive, but that’s unfortunately how I intend to roll this week.Why did you choose him? just genuinely curious.
I’ll provide you with some info, though. Root is town.
@coolkid you already have 1 night worth of info (if town) and if you wait we'll take that as you making it easier for yourself to make a fakeclaim. Mind you, serp allows us to most likely have you as an extralynch if you dont contribute, so you might even survive the day
Last few posts have been very useful to me. I'm pretty confident that I have narrowed down the two leaders to being among 3 people. The problem is figuring out which one is mine........
If my leader doesn't respond with a :fire emote at the end of a post to let me know soon, i'll probably just have to the roll the dice and play the 66.7% odds that I tunnel someone not aligned with myself.
So did you just roll a die? Im sure you've had some reason to do it. This is not about judging people for optimal targeting. I dont think there even is a (strictly) mechanical reason at this stage to favour any particular target (well for next night there is ofc, but not this one). Strategically, i could see a lot of different reasons for choosing Root though. And I would like to know which it was.No real mechanical reasoning, really.Sorry for being inactive, but that’s unfortunately how I intend to roll this week.Why did you choose him? just genuinely curious.
I’ll provide you with some info, though. Root is town.
@coolkid you already have 1 night worth of info (if town) and if you wait we'll take that as you making it easier for yourself to make a fakeclaim. Mind you, serp allows us to most likely have you as an extralynch if you dont contribute, so you might even survive the day
Last few posts have been very useful to me. I'm pretty confident that I have narrowed down the two leaders to being among 3 people. The problem is figuring out which one is mine........
If my leader doesn't respond with a :fire emote at the end of a post to let me know soon, i'll probably just have to the roll the dice and play the 66.7% odds that I tunnel someone not aligned with myself.
Bruh
I’ll provide you with some info, though. Root is town.
@MW same offerWhy do I want you to play seriously? This is way more entertaining. Besides, I can't offer any new information
@kaempfer13Fine then.
Tell me your result and I'll play seriously.
Thx for the response Oa. Unfortunately this info isn't really that actionable. Although I (and apparently MW, if he counts as a trusted civ) can at least verify that it's true.
Interested in hearing results of anyone who has either found a cultist or investigated shockcannon.
@Linkcat, I investigated worldwideweb3 and found out that he's British. Didn't really know that counted as its own faction, but I can see how it makes sense.
@kaempfer13Fine then.
Tell me your result and I'll play seriously.
The result of the latest calculation i made for my Bachelorthesis is a p-Value of 0.002.
Now play seriously!
Ninjaed by Root, Im still posting this.
Do you prefer poo-values?@kaempfer13Fine then.
Tell me your result and I'll play seriously.
The result of the latest calculation i made for my Bachelorthesis is a p-Value of 0.002.
Now play seriously!
Ninjaed by Root, Im still posting this.
Eew p-values
Do you prefer poo-values?@kaempfer13Fine then.
Tell me your result and I'll play seriously.
The result of the latest calculation i made for my Bachelorthesis is a p-Value of 0.002.
Now play seriously!
Ninjaed by Root, Im still posting this.
Eew p-values
I crack my eggs middle out (more efficient)
Wrt kae's post just read it lol, it's a pretty good addition to the lore. He's basically claiming civ which... shouldn't surprise anyone
Lemme paint a scenario.
Just assume Link and Root are leaders.
N0
Root recruits W3 (familiar name, low chance of lynch)
Link recruits Shock (shitposting the game)
D1
Mobian dies as a clean town.
N1
Root targets ? (Gonna guess Andre due to root helping him)
Link targets W3 (again, shitposting his way through)
W3 dies as cultist.
I believe this makes the most sense. I'm willing to bet kae is being wagoned by link in hopes Root targeted kae N1, or to thin out town. I believe link and shock are in the same cult. I don't think link would target late, especially if he's trying to shit post his way through, and kae being an ultra active brings attention, risking a lynch.
BMs are red,1. Noone died, so I take it that no crosstream occured (technically the rules didnt explicitly make clear what happens in a crosstream as opposed to nonsimultaneous recruitment). This leaves only holstering and targeting the other leader (2 1/9 chances) for having less than 2 (new cultists), so about 77% (rounding down where I should round up because of holstering and inactivity).
For everyone else, here's a chance to offer your thoughts on real strategy. I'll give an easy question and a hard one. Interested in seeing what people to have to say.
1. How many cultists do you think currently exist? What is your level of certainty in your answer?
2. Let's say you find a cultist in Night 1. Do you lynch them the next day or choose someone else? Do you reveal this information at all?
2. Town is not interested in seeing cultists lynched, in fact they are the only way to confirm that someone is not a leader. The reveal part is much more tricky, as we want leaders to cross streams, but also avoid wasting a lynch. Currently leaning towards claiming result only as lynch is imminent (to protect them, crazy, i know).
TOs are blue.
From a certain point of view,
Big if true.
Cool64Kid (1) - Mobian
RootRanger (1) - MasterWalks
kaempfer13 (1) - Linkcat
Now let's talk about MW. Out of all players in this game, I believe he would be the most likely to troll by recruiting shock. Getting w3 next as another trolly player fits, even with him being a bad choice since you wouldn't care about that with this playstyle. We know w3 was recruited N1, so that makes MW the most likely to target both the one confirmed cultist and also my top suspected cultist. Easy top leader read. Even better, after I had already come to this conclusion I saw the following post.
@MW same offerWhy do I want you to play seriously? This is way more entertaining. Besides, I can't offer any new information
Then that's a really shit claim because you're just copying the only reported target.Yea obv.
Ok, finally the day is getting interesting.
Linkcat (3) - MasterWalks, kaempfer13, RootRanger
kaempfer13 (1) - shockcannon
MasterWalks (2) - Linkcat, andretimpa
I agree that it's a pretty shitty claim (it could be terrible luck tho), but that coupled with the fact I don't see anyone recruiting MW early makes it more suspicious than Link's PM shitpost.
On MW's defense it was an unprompted claim which gives it a bit more weight to it being genuine. Link do you have any results you want to share? Also
24h extension (1) - andretimpa
Then that's a really shit claim because you're just copying the only reported target.just ftr, Mw broadcast his targeting intention a long time ago.
Ftr, I was taking the perspective of a complete outsider when calculating (answering the question "Given that leaders didnt recruit the same person, what are the odds they both recruited a towny").
The things you said about MW I've been thinking this whole time about you, those recruits fit your playstyle even better (dont understand the crumb though, pls elaborate). I also wouldnt completely discount the possibility of Oa recruiting shock, they had a good game together before.
24h extension (2) - andretimpa, kaempfer13
You know, i pretty much always choose that option when available. Not sure if it (or activity modkills for that matter) actually apply this game though, as the usual secondary rules post is completely missing this game.
The crumb is him laying out his targets disguising them as mine, he can call back to it endgame and it would be pretty convincing.
Then that's a really shit claim because you're just copying the only reported target.just ftr, Mw broadcast his targeting intention a long time ago.
So Mobian is dead then?
Him just ragequitting when i identify him as scum is consistent with his previous game. Sorry mate! Does make me feel fairly confident though, especially if MW turns up cultist (not like we would get a definitive reveal before game end >:().
Target me tonight. I double dog dare u.
I'm finna target Root. If he comes up town, I'm voting him tomorrow. If he comes up cult I vote link.
Did anyone target Root?
Only respond if he came back town.
Did anyone target Kae?
Only respond if he came back cultist
Did anyone target shock?
Respond either way
I’ll provide you with some info, though. Root is town.
So this means root is townie or leader right? Just not cultist.
Cool, solved game. Link and Root leaders. We lynch Link tonight Root next night and it's GG start up the next one
@MW same offerWhy do I want you to play seriously? This is way more entertaining. Besides, I can't offer any new information
See the problem here, or at least one of the problems here, is that Linkcat being leader and sending in his recruit too late is something that makes sense given the evidence. We have exactly one known cultist and one nightkill, so that's 3 total targets between the 2 leaders over 2 nights. There's a missing cultist, because a leader either missed a deadline or fizzled.
If another player dropped a bombshell result that there's a 2nd cultist out there aside from shock, it would change things, but that hasn't happened.
Will respond more when I get home if it seems necessary but my vote is staying on Linkcat.
Yet he voted me over Root, even though he supposedly got a town result.Did anyone target Root?
Only respond if he came back town.
Did anyone target Kae?
Only respond if he came back cultist
Did anyone target shock?
Respond either way
He positioned himself for a Root cult claim, so he could be checking to see if anyone would have a cc and then claim early for cred. If he actually had a town result, anyone responding positively to this would put his claim in question as we see now. Bad play as town.I’ll provide you with some info, though. Root is town.
So this means root is townie or leader right? Just not cultist.
Cool, solved game. Link and Root leaders. We lynch Link tonight Root next night and it's GG start up the next one
except you explicitly prohibited them from claiming if they want to claim cultist ?_?
See the problem here, or at least one of the problems here, is that Linkcat being leader and sending in his recruit too late is something that makes sense given the evidence. We have exactly one known cultist and one nightkill, so that's 3 total targets between the 2 leaders over 2 nights. There's a missing cultist, because a leader either missed a deadline or fizzled.
If another player dropped a bombshell result that there's a 2nd cultist out there aside from shock, it would change things, but that hasn't happened.
Will respond more when I get home if it seems necessary but my vote is staying on Linkcat.
Completely ignoring the much more likely scenario that nobody happened to target the last cultist. How about we get the rest of you to claim and see how many more overlap?
except you explicitly prohibited them from claiming if they want to claim cultist ?_?
If you thought what link pointed out was scummy, get ready for this:
I messed up and swapped the criteria for responding on you and Root.
If I'd found a new cultist I would have spoken up by now.
Do you all just want me to tell you who the leaders are? I'm fairly certain www3 was not on my team, so my team should be ahead right now. I feel like revealing will only benefit me?
@myleader, if you want me to reveal you, use the word "scum" as your 37th word in your next post.
Do you all just want me to tell you who the leaders are? I'm fairly certain www3 was not on my team, so my team should be ahead right now. I feel like revealing will only benefit me?
@myleader, if you want me to reveal you, use the word "scum" as your 37th word in your next post.
See the problem here, or at least one of the problems here, is that Linkcat being leader and sending in his recruit too late is something that makes sense given the evidence. We have exactly one known cultist and one nightkill, so that's 3 total targets between the 2 leaders over 2 nights. There's a missing cultist, because a leader either missed a deadline or fizzled.
If another player dropped a bombshell result that there's a 2nd cultist out there aside from shock, it would change things, but that hasn't happened.
Will respond more when I get home if it seems necessary but my vote is staying on Linkcat.
Completely ignoring the much more likely scenario that nobody happened to target the last cultist. How about we get the rest of you to claim and see how many more overlap?
I'll claim my result, since I think coolkid died or smth. I randomized one of the inactives and picked w3, he was already a cultist, so he was targetted in different nights.
See the problem here, or at least one of the problems here, is that Linkcat being leader and sending in his recruit too late is something that makes sense given the evidence. We have exactly one known cultist and one nightkill, so that's 3 total targets between the 2 leaders over 2 nights. There's a missing cultist, because a leader either missed a deadline or fizzled.
If another player dropped a bombshell result that there's a 2nd cultist out there aside from shock, it would change things, but that hasn't happened.
Will respond more when I get home if it seems necessary but my vote is staying on Linkcat.
Completely ignoring the much more likely scenario that nobody happened to target the last cultist. How about we get the rest of you to claim and see how many more overlap?
I'll claim my result, since I think coolkid died or smth. I randomized one of the inactives and picked w3, he was already a cultist, so he was targetted in different nights.
Another easy fake claim...
Linkcat (2) - MasterWalks, kaempfer13
kaempfer13 (1) - shockcannon
MasterWalks (3) - Linkcat, andretimpa, RootRanger
This is so stupid. I still think Linkcat is one of the most likely scum, but MW is intent on lynching me which will probably lose the game given the tight margins we're under. And MW is a good scum candidate too so it's not an awful lynch.
Btw my target was that shock is cultist. Wanted to see if he was a leader fakeclaiming to fly under the radar, or if someone would take the bait claiming he's town.
in b4 shock tries to cc
I should reiterate that the only reason I felt comfortable shitposting as long as I did was because as town, my faction has a very low chance of winning anyway so it's not really throwing. As a cultist I'd shape up in order to not fuck over my leader and the whole game as a result. As a leader I would just be straight up throwing, I wouldn't do that once it was clear everyone else was actually taking this seriously.If you died as town and ruined the (realistically speaking) at most 2 error margin that way for the rest of your (then still) team its basically throwing as hard and you are also not getting recruited if you survive like that, so argument doesnt really work. So basically, still highest confidence on you in the end so i didn't switch/jump off.
kaempf and andre are leaders. very obvious, don't understand how no one can tell. Do with that what you will
So Mobian is dead then?
Him just ragequitting when i identify him as scum is consistent with his previous game. Sorry mate! Does make me feel fairly confident though, especially if MW turns up cultist (not like we would get a definitive reveal before game end >:().
Still assuming I was correct on MW, who threw for their team the hardest? MW for recruiting shock, shock for claiming cultist, or me with my last post? It's hard to say.
Still assuming I was correct on MW, who threw for their team the hardest? MW for recruiting shock, shock for claiming cultist, or me with my last post? It's hard to say.
Me for being more afk than I anticipated.
Still assuming I was correct on MW, who threw for their team the hardest? MW for recruiting shock, shock for claiming cultist, or me with my last post? It's hard to say.After some deliberation I came to the conclusion that your post in question was absolutely disgusting, a complete disgrace, and also the 3rd least gamethrowing post you did all game.
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Can someone give me a TLDR of N1 claims? As far as I can see there have been nothing except me (and MW) on Root?
The main reason I did this is because it's something serp would do in one of my games. The second reason is that I'm trying to break or push the line of every rule, only a few left at this point. Honestly a good host should have modkilled me already.
Targeting Root tonight, would appreciate if someone else got andre.What a clever projection of crumbing your recruits.
(Coolkid, if you read this before deadline, please be useful for once and send a personal message to serprex that says "I target andretimpa.")
I'm on mobile, just started my shift at work so it won't be pretty.Mws setup here was terrible given that he didnt make good on his promise and other problems Link pointed out, but this doesnt really matter. Mw still considered Root as a leader here, which makes it impossible for town!mw to have seen cultist (ofc he could be leader as well or (at this stage) swapped target for some ungodly reason, but he still offered the best setup for a leader to copy without pointing out their own cultist or taking a bigger leap of faith)
Here's the thing, Oa, CoolKid, and now dead W3 are all variables. We cannot get solid reads on them, regardless of how much you look.
Shock is unpredictable, but rarely a liar. If he's claiming cult, I'm willing to believe it. I'm down to hear how he isn't.
Andre and Kae are probably the most helpful, but that doesn't mean not a cultist. In fact, Andre wouldn't be a bad target for recruitment, but cultists don't really matter here. I don't get leader reads from either. Kae could've been recruited, but I think that's a bad recruit. Too active, too much attention.
I'm town. Not cultist yet either.
Link is semi confirmed leader.
As for Root, early game Root was the post judge. He sat back and decided who was useful publicly. This is a pretty power move from a leader. By forcing attention on certain people, he can hopefully influence the other leader. I think he wants kae or Andre to be recruited so he can kill them. Later, root gets pretty defensive on me from some pretty minor pressure. Root has played games with me in the past, and knows my reputation. He knows I have to fight tooth and nail to get anyone to listen to my proposals. Very interesting thing to defend.
According to Kae's Lynch log, and today's votes, Root hasn't started a wagon. He simply joins them. Maybe this is deadline/TZ conflicting, but Kae when we were scum we always piled on wagons and rarely started our own. as scum this is the best way to influence who gets killed without looking too sus.
Sorry for being inactive, but that’s unfortunately how I intend to roll this week.First to make a claim explicit, though MW waffled around a bit already. only reason to expect a cc would be if he were a leader.
I’ll provide you with some info, though. Root is town.
Evasive about the motive. My question was not as innocent as I made it look, in my opinion there was little reason to think Root would turn out to be a cultist. Main reason to do this claim would be to piggyback of MW. MW telegraphed that he didnt see cultist!Root, which made this claim fairly safeish. In the alternative case (MW not town or deviating from planned target) it still would serve to push MW further into lynching Root.No real mechanical reasoning, really.Sorry for being inactive, but that’s unfortunately how I intend to roll this week.Why did you choose him? just genuinely curious.
I’ll provide you with some info, though. Root is town.
@coolkid you already have 1 night worth of info (if town) and if you wait we'll take that as you making it easier for yourself to make a fakeclaim. Mind you, serp allows us to most likely have you as an extralynch if you dont contribute, so you might even survive the day
Can someone give me a TLDR of N1 claims? As far as I can see there have been nothing except me (and MW) on Root?As I called out earlier, wrong sense of priorities from a towny. Oa being first to explicitly claim could not hope to catch someone in a lie. Vice versa however...
Then who was the cultist, pray tell?God obviously. Or maybe Mobian really was a leader after all :sillyspin:
So I just finished watching EGGI genuinely recommend Angel's egg (Tenshi no Tamago).
Wow. What a film. Not quite the musky grit of hardboiled Americana, but the effects really made it relatable
The big reveal where they explain things could've been left out tho
So I just finished watching EGGI genuinely recommend Angel's egg (Tenshi no Tamago).
Wow. What a film. Not quite the musky grit of hardboiled Americana, but the effects really made it relatable
The big reveal where they explain things could've been left out tho
Did that a while ago, that's 1 of 2 found.
Claim?
I'm on mobile, just started my shift at work so it won't be pretty.Mws setup here was terrible given that he didnt make good on his promise and other problems Link pointed out, but this doesnt really matter. Mw still considered Root as a leader here, which makes it impossible for town!mw to have seen cultist (ofc he could be leader as well or (at this stage) swapped target for some ungodly reason, but he still offered the best setup for a leader to copy without pointing out their own cultist or taking a bigger leap of faith)
Here's the thing, Oa, CoolKid, and now dead W3 are all variables. We cannot get solid reads on them, regardless of how much you look.
Shock is unpredictable, but rarely a liar. If he's claiming cult, I'm willing to believe it. I'm down to hear how he isn't.
Andre and Kae are probably the most helpful, but that doesn't mean not a cultist. In fact, Andre wouldn't be a bad target for recruitment, but cultists don't really matter here. I don't get leader reads from either. Kae could've been recruited, but I think that's a bad recruit. Too active, too much attention.
I'm town. Not cultist yet either.
Link is semi confirmed leader.
As for Root, early game Root was the post judge. He sat back and decided who was useful publicly. This is a pretty power move from a leader. By forcing attention on certain people, he can hopefully influence the other leader. I think he wants kae or Andre to be recruited so he can kill them. Later, root gets pretty defensive on me from some pretty minor pressure. Root has played games with me in the past, and knows my reputation. He knows I have to fight tooth and nail to get anyone to listen to my proposals. Very interesting thing to defend.
According to Kae's Lynch log, and today's votes, Root hasn't started a wagon. He simply joins them. Maybe this is deadline/TZ conflicting, but Kae when we were scum we always piled on wagons and rarely started our own. as scum this is the best way to influence who gets killed without looking too sus.
Sorry for being inactive, but that’s unfortunately how I intend to roll this week.First to make a claim explicit, though MW waffled around a bit already. only reason to expect a cc would be if he were a leader.
I’ll provide you with some info, though. Root is town.
Evasive about the motive. My question was not as innocent as I made it look, in my opinion there was little reason to think Root would turn out to be a cultist. Main reason to do this claim would be to piggyback of MW. MW telegraphed that he didnt see cultist!Root, which made this claim fairly safeish. In the alternative case (MW not town or deviating from planned target) it still would serve to push MW further into lynching Root.No real mechanical reasoning, really.Sorry for being inactive, but that’s unfortunately how I intend to roll this week.Why did you choose him? just genuinely curious.
I’ll provide you with some info, though. Root is town.
@coolkid you already have 1 night worth of info (if town) and if you wait we'll take that as you making it easier for yourself to make a fakeclaim. Mind you, serp allows us to most likely have you as an extralynch if you dont contribute, so you might even survive the day
Can someone give me a TLDR of N1 claims? As far as I can see there have been nothing except me (and MW) on Root?As I called out earlier, wrong sense of priorities from a towny. Oa being first to explicitly claim could not hope to catch someone in a lie. Vice versa however...
Can someone give me a TLDR of N1 claims? As far as I can see there have been nothing except me (and MW) on Root?I never cared about him wanting a summary of all claims. My problem is his laserfocus on Root.
Then who was the cultist, pray tell?
Also reminder that I wouldnt know whos cultist I am in absence of crumbs, so I would be generally defensive if I got freshly recruited and havent picked up a hint.But Linkcat left the breadcrumb that he's on the Big team - you were the one to point it out. Unless you no longer think that means anything?
Fair, wasn't crazy relevant for my actual situation, so I didnt bother.Also reminder that I wouldnt know whos cultist I am in absence of crumbs, so I would be generally defensive if I got freshly recruited and havent picked up a hint.But Linkcat left the breadcrumb that he's on the Big team - you were the one to point it out. Unless you no longer think that means anything?
Can someone give me a TLDR of N1 claims? As far as I can see there have been nothing except me (and MW) on Root?I never cared about him wanting a summary of all claims. My problem is his laserfocus on Root.
It will be hard to beat you over the head hard enough if you still havent seen it now. But given that even as a leader you want your rival lynched, it evidently isnt clear enough.
1. Oa clearly saw the ask to claim early for the low contributors (and also you, but it was clear you werent cooperating).
2. MW both very likely investigated root and treated him as a viable lynch. Then some stuff i will not reiterate, read the post.
3. Oa is very anxious about other results on Root.
Also I find it very funny that Linkcat is leaving obvious signs that he's my leader thinking I'm stupid enough to believe it. Sets this up so obviously that it makes everyone else thinks he's actually the other leader who's just trying to get me to vote with him at end game. But in reality he's really just a town and now he's going to die for it since everyone thinks he's a leader.
Pretty funny low key, but a terrible plan because the end result is you die and don't win since you're still a town.
I'm going to go make some popcorn before Linkcat makes his massive personality switch post to try and convince kaemp and root not to vote for him (which he thought they wouldn't but he underestimated their stupidity to see through his troll).
If you screw up within 5 posts it weighs all the heavier (importantly, he asks about other people targeting Root). It will not be possible to get a better read on Oa.
Fret not though, I am no longer voting him. Also, wording lol. Nice crumb to your teammate (if only he weren't a leader). My read is at least as well founded as your cultist by PoE read on him. that PoE is much bigger than you claim. Also you dont get to lecture me about failing a faction.
Can someone give me a TLDR of N1 claims? As far as I can see there have been nothing except me (and MW) on Root?
Look, I get that you think I may have recruited shock and want to lynch me for insurance, but you, me, Oa, and andre can all easily win right now.I find this post a bit puzzling, not that I expect you to actually explain it. But your only reads that you have explained as of today are townreads on me and Oa.
I'd rather not do this the hard way, but if you insist, so be it.
I think everything short of Oas input has been said about that affair.Look, I get that you think I may have recruited shock and want to lynch me for insurance, but you, me, Oa, and andre can all easily win right now.I find this post a bit puzzling, not that I expect you to actually explain it. But your only reads that you have explained as of today are townreads on me and Oa.
I'd rather not do this the hard way, but if you insist, so be it.
Is the vote on Root omgus?
Hypothetical question btw, if MW really was leader, what were his targets?
I think everything short of Oas input has been said about that affair.Look, I get that you think I may have recruited shock and want to lynch me for insurance, but you, me, Oa, and andre can all easily win right now.I find this post a bit puzzling, not that I expect you to actually explain it. But your only reads that you have explained as of today are townreads on me and Oa.
I'd rather not do this the hard way, but if you insist, so be it.
Is the vote on Root omgus?
He's saying he's a leader and recruited me, Oa, and andre. And now thinks I'm the other leader for voting on him. Of course, no explanation on how w3 could have died if Linkcat's targets were me, Oa, and andre.
Which means that a check on Oa or MW would be invaluable. But just because Oa was an attempted recruit, doesnt mean it was successfull. Alas, we dont get another chance to check without losing I wager and both of those were not the focus.
Andre - > w3, Oa
Link - > shock, w3 ANDRE oa +1, LINK shock +1
Andre - > w3, Oa
MW - > shock, w3 ANDRE oa +1, shock
Andre - > w3, Oa
Oa - > shock, w3 ANDRE +1, OA shock +1
I think we can get rid of these? Like I don't see andre picking those targets.
The more I think about it, the worse a N1 Oa target gets. I've been considering his whole post history for targets, but the timeline doesn't add up. He only had 3 useless posts at that point, there's no way to get anywhere near a non leader read. Considering that's my only viable world, I have a proposal for serp. We take a vote on whether there are no cult leaders in this game. If we're right, the game ends and we all win.
I think we can cross any words where Oa gets recruited N1 or CK gets recruited at all. I wouldn't put it past serp to make CK a leader tho.How do you feel about the scenario of Linkcat as leader? My long post earlier is a strong case for it imo
I think we can cross any words where Oa gets recruited N1 or CK gets recruited at all. I wouldn't put it past serp to make CK a leader tho.How do you feel about the scenario of Linkcat as leader? My long post earlier is a strong case for it imo
I have two confessions to make.
First, I haven't read my role pm yet. (for obvious reasons)
Second, I don't actually like eating eggs by themselves.
If you choose to lynch me for these heresies, I will humbly accept my fate.
Lmao. You gotta PM? 90% sure that means you a cultist. 8 people didn't get pms... because they're town cops
I have two confessions to make.
First, I haven't read my role pm yet. (for obvious reasons)
Second, I don't actually like eating eggs by themselves.
If you choose to lynch me for these heresies, I will humbly accept my fate.
I guess we know who one of the cult leaders is.... Only leaders got PMs, after all.
I've had more time to think about things (and not get recruited last night), and the case for lynching Linkcat is just as strong as before.
In a standard format, there's no reason for anyone, regardless of role, to claim that they're scum, as Linkcat has been doing. So you can chalk it up to shitposting. The difference with this format is that in the endgame, the leaders will potentially need to convince other players of their identity. For example, if the remaining 3 players in the final day phase include 1 civ, 1 cultist, and 1 leader, this isn't necessarily gg. If the remaining civ can be convincing enough, they can get the cultist to lynch their own leader. This is the sort of scenario where repeatedly broadcasting that you're a leader from the start of the game would be helpful. I think Linkcat was just counting on nobody realizing this, or nobody getting the votes to actually lynch him.
So what's the full picture look like? Linkcat is a leader, probably on the Big team given the early breadcrumb. We can hope the other leader is MW, and I think the odds of that aren't too bad given how hard he was gunning for me. Plus, the fact that nobody died in the night phase strengthens the case that there is only 1 leader remaining. At most, Linkcat has 2 cultists on the Big team, and there's 1 remaining cultist on the Little team who is probably (but not necessarily) leaderless. This means 3 people who want Linkcat to live and 4 people who want Linkcat to die. So, we can win this with a 4-3 vote. In the best case scenario, Linkcat only has 1 cultist on his team, meaning it should be a 5-2 vote, so we have a margin of error in case people are inactive.
If Linkcat was telling the truth about his second target not going through, that leaves him with only 1 cultist - whoever he recruited last night. I think this is most likely to be kaempfer, given how he switched gears overnight to vote on PlayerOa instead of Linkcat. This leaves shockcannon as the Little team cultist, with no leader lol, but his incentive is to still vote for Linkcat such that he can win in the event that his leader is still alive.
So, that's that.
PlayerOa (1) - kaempfer13
Linkcat (1) - RootRanger
Linkcat (2) - MasterWalks, kaempfer13Actually, I found this post much more offensive, though its easily handwaved through a logical failure. As town eliminating a town that will missvote is at best equal to hitting scum. Meanwhile if both MW and Linkcat are scum the order doesnt really matter as MWs vote wasnt gonna help town either way. In that case the vote should go where you are confident. Things are different when you are a leader or plan on becoming a cultist ofc (though the latter is barely affected by a single missvoting town).
kaempfer13 (1) - shockcannon
MasterWalks (3) - Linkcat, andretimpa, RootRanger
This is so stupid. I still think Linkcat is one of the most likely scum, but MW is intent on lynching me which will probably lose the game given the tight margins we're under. And MW is a good scum candidate too so it's not an awful lynch.
Root being scum also opens up the possibility that shock is an even bigger troll than we thought, though that makes for 2 missed cultists, which is even less likely.
My main thing against it is that I originally read Link`s PM postThat's not really that significant of a part of my case against Linkcat. What's most important is the breadcrumb post where he suggested being the leader of the Big team. Why would he do that otherwise?
@Root But suppose Link is one of the leaders, who is your guess for the second one?MW. I think the best explanation for why he was trying so hard to lynch me is that he's a leader. It makes sense because he can know for a fact that I'm not on his team, as he never recruited me. For anyone else, there's ambiguity about my role from their perspective. So, it makes more sense to try to actually figure out what's going on instead of slamming one person over and over again based on fragile reasoning.
I kind of ignored this post because I already considered Root as leader at that time, but this is a pretty weak argument. Broadcasting as many mixed signals as I have makes any leader claim much less believable. The correct way to play as leader is to drop one or two solid breadcrumbs per cultist without any extra noise. The way I played the first half of the game was terrible as any faction, there's no way to tell the difference other than which faction you think I'd be more likely to throw as. And that's it, that's his entire basis for this lynch. He's barely even talked about anyone else, he's just pushing what he thinks is the easiest lynch.Dude you haven't been broadcasting mixed signals, you've been broadcasting that you're the leader of the Big team. I've talked about this the most because it's the most compelling evidence. The only other role I know with a higher level of confidence is that shock is a cultist, but I'm not lynching him because that wouldn't make any sense.
He voted against no leaders, a clear anti-town move because there's no downside to eliminating the option.Ok, so you think that not only serprex is running a bastard mafia, and there's nothing disrespectful about creating a sham vote to state this, but also that the sham vote actually means something?
He also never claimed his N2 target, another anti-town move. Even if it's a duplicate it will increase the confidence in the check. I just can't see you as town right now, whether there are leaders or not.That's something you consider suspicious? I hadn't claimed my target yet because it doesn't actually matter if I'm correct about there being no new cultists resulting from N1 targets. If you care that much, my target was that andre is civ.
Actually, I found this post much more offensive, though its easily handwaved through a logical failure. As town eliminating a town that will missvote is at best equal to hitting scum. Meanwhile if both MW and Linkcat are scum the order doesnt really matter as MWs vote wasnt gonna help town either way. In that case the vote should go where you are confident. Things are different when you are a leader or plan on becoming a cultist ofc (though the latter is barely affected by a single missvoting town).My hypothesis is that MW targeted shock in N0 then w3 in N1, while Linkcat targeted w3 in N0 and missed his target in N1. A few nuances about this to consider:
That's a big brain move. Root as leader recruiting me, then claiming that he investigated me and saw cultist. Game winning play right there.Not what happened but we still both have the same incentive to vote Linkcat. If my hypothesis is correct, Linkcat is the Big team leader and you're a Little team cultist.
N2 claims
kae: timpa not cultist
Link: Root not cultist
timpa: kae not cultist
Doing it from my POV
MW - > Andre (timpa leader)
MW - > Link (contradicted by vote)
MW - > Root (ditto, also requires Root leader or link fake claim)
MW - > CK (questionable)
MW - > Oa (ok sure)
Andre - > MW (contradicted by vote)
Andre - > Link (not contradicted by votes, but still stupid)
Andre - > Root (requires Root leader or link fake claim)
Andre - > CK (questionable)
Andre - > Oa (sure)
Link - > MW (contradicted hard)
Link - > Andre (timpa leader) maybe not even an option, Link is smart enough to see leader between timpa and me in that case and would act differently
Link - > Root (no way)
Link - > CK (questionable)
Link - > Oa (sure)
Link - > Missed (sure)
Root - > MW (contradicted by vote)
Root - > Andre (timpa leader)
Root - > Link (no)
Root - > CK (questionable)
Root - > Oa (sure)
CK - > MW (sure)
CK - > Andre (timpa leader)
CK - > Link (ballsy)
CK - > Root (requires Root leader or link fake claim)
CK - > Oa (sure)
Oa - > MW (sure)
Oa - > Andre (timpa leader)
Oa - > Link (ballsy)
Oa - > Root (requires Root leader or link fake claim)
Oa - > CK (questionable)
My main thing against it is that I originally read Link`s PM postThat's not really that significant of a part of my case against Linkcat. What's most important is the breadcrumb post where he suggested being the leader of the Big team. Why would he do that otherwise?I kind of ignored this post because I already considered Root as leader at that time, but this is a pretty weak argument. Broadcasting as many mixed signals as I have makes any leader claim much less believable. The correct way to play as leader is to drop one or two solid breadcrumbs per cultist without any extra noise. The way I played the first half of the game was terrible as any faction, there's no way to tell the difference other than which faction you think I'd be more likely to throw as. And that's it, that's his entire basis for this lynch. He's barely even talked about anyone else, he's just pushing what he thinks is the easiest lynch.Dude you haven't been broadcasting mixed signals, you've been broadcasting that you're the leader of the Big team. I've talked about this the most because it's the most compelling evidence. The only other role I know with a higher level of confidence is that shock is a cultist, but I'm not lynching him because that wouldn't make any sense.
@shock, plz dissect Kae's big ass post. There's something in that post and idk what it is.
@Mobian, you should tunnel on the Cool64Kid. Make them talk a lot so we can get a read on em.
@Timpa, post something so I can tunnel you
@kae explain your RootRanger read plz. I'm getting big scum reads on him
I'll give a better breakdown when I'm off work in 4 hours or so, but the just of my scumread on him:
He's playing judge on people's post. He keeps claiming x person is making good posts, without actually making a helpful one himself. He's sitting back, getting just enough posts to not get heat for inactivity but isn't saying much. The post you quoted with his 2 questions is the only legitimate post he's made. The first question is dumb af. That's a burner question because the answer cannot be known and there's only 3 options for answers.
The second question has started good discussion on what town should do, but tbh I'm reading more as he wants to know what town will do. If he's leader, and we agreed that we will expose a cultist on discovery, he could totally doc himself one day by exposing his own cultist. He's my biggest natural scumread, where as Link is the biggest most possible scumread due to obvious reasons. At this stage, I'm willing to bet leaders are Link and Root. I have no reads for cultists but I don't think cultists matter yet.
You wouldn't be voting me right now if my attempt to convert you wasn't 6 minutes late, which I found out just now because I haven't been paying attention to deadlines at all. I would have let it go through, I guess serp just likes to watch me suffer. Anyway, I'm trying to win this game solely through shitposting, so please don't lynch me thanks.
Linkcat (2) - MasterWalks, andretimpa
kaempfer13 (2) - shockcannon, Linkcat
I already gave my accusation earlier, looks like shock was the only one big brained enough to see it.
That's probably the nicest you've been to me about a big post :D
Convinced or not, I'd love to hear a better alternative leader.
That's a big brain move. Root as leader recruiting me, then claiming that he investigated me and saw cultist. Game winning play right there.
I don't negotiate with noobs.
Kiddo, I won the last game, even after being abandoned by my teammate. I won the last war too. Run your little word game again and I'll win that.
Do you see noob in my name anymore? Nah cuh, I've grown.
What's the point of having power if you can't use it for good? It's the little things that truly matter in life.
im a little confused by all this cult terminology. Is there 3 teams, town cult1 cult2?
Anyways, as a truly civilized person, I do not condone the personal cracking of eggs at all! Nay, for I believe that all eggs must be purchased in carton form, for easy pouring onto the frying pan.Plz tell me this is an April Fool's joke. This is so so wrong. This is actually offensive.
You can't make eggs with yolk, wtf is the point then. Are you 5years old and only eat scrambled eggs?
You can't separate your whites from yolks for baking. You have to buy separate cartons for that. Consumerism at its finest.
You don't get egg shells for compost. I guess if your buying carton eggs, you don't care for freshness anyways.
You have little to no variety. Supposed to be farm fresh for fried eggs and industrial eggs for baking. All you get is industrial.
Hard boiled eggs? Poached eggs? Over easy? Hollandaise sauce? You miss out on so much goodness, might as well just go vegan...
Now I'm just never going to read this out of spite.Is this even legal?
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So let me get this straight, you actually had received a pm on the day a game started where the role may require (in order to not throw) to open your inbox within the first (rl) day and never read it?
Its been to long that ive used my inbox without immediately reading everything, is it even possible to open the inbox and have pms marked as unread after?
1. Idk, probably not.
2. Of course I sent in a target for each possible role, I can still do that without checking my inbox.
3. No, but after I asked Naii to send me a pm I freaked out a little when I saw his name above the thread. Lucky for me he rescinded his signup.
Then that's a really shit claim because you're just copying the only reported target.Yea obv.
On mobile so I can't breakdown your book of a post, but you quite literally swapped your name for my name when talking about shit posting the picks. I broke it down the same way.
First of all, as a leader, I would target kae or Andre N0. Kae knows how I scum play so he would be able to tell. Id chose Andre because you have to much passive scum to you you're too risky at being lynched.
Putting me in low when I fricken win last game and got voted best player is just rude. Lemme bask in my glory. Also, give me an icon for that, i deserve it.
To shitpost your way through the entire game then get pretty darn defensive when you're on the rope, that's a major scum thing to do. I know as a town or cultist you would absolutely continue with the shitposting right until death. I would expect this behavior from shock or w3 but not you. Also you bending the rules pretty damn hard by editing someone else's post and screenshotting your inbox notification even furthers your chance of being leader. You being modkilled D1 as a leader would give the game to Root (most likely). Serp might be bastard mod this game, but I think he'd still want to preserve a fair-ish game and that means not mod killing a leader.
That's enough of my defense, on to your other reads.
I agree Mobian would probably recruit me if he was leader. He wouldn't recruit shock unless Mobian didn't understand rules. And I think he understands them enough to not do that. Mobian died a townie and I think we all agree on that.
I would not recruit shock with this playgroup. Too often he is policy lynched. Especially as a N0 recruit when Mobian is in game and would obsess with policy lynching shock. Kae as a leader also wouldn't recruit shock. Too much of a chance shock tries to get kae killed later, and he definitely wouldn't be quiet if he knew kae recruited him. That leaves either A) you recruited him or B) a noob like CoolKid did, since they wouldn't know what a shockcannon is. I lean on you doing it for shitpost reasons.
A kae leader would probably recruit Root or Andre. Kae has actually been kinda open to lynching Root so that lowers the possibility there. I am interested in hearing if Andre was investigated and what the result was, but I'm not seeing a leader Kae. If you truly believe kae is a leader with me, why not jump on him now? He gets a little funny and prone to mistakes when he has a decent amount of pressure on him.
He voted against no leaders, a clear anti-town move because there's no downside to eliminating the option.Ok, so you think that not only serprex is running a bastard mafia, and there's nothing disrespectful about creating a sham vote to state this, but also that the sham vote actually means something?
Linkcat (2) - RootRanger, kaempfer13
RootRanger (1) - Linkcat
andretimpa (1) - shockcannon
He also never claimed his N2 target, another anti-town move. Even if it's a duplicate it will increase the confidence in the check. I just can't see you as town right now, whether there are leaders or not.That's something you consider suspicious? I hadn't claimed my target yet because it doesn't actually matter if I'm correct about there being no new cultists resulting from N1 targets. If you care that much, my target was that andre is civ.
Linkcat (2) - RootRanger, kaempfer13
RootRanger (1) - Linkcat
andretimpa (1) - shockcannon
Is this the most recent tally?
@Link After thinking through the different scenarios I kept returning to "Why did Link defend Oa so much?" It seems to me no one was buying kae's argument anyways
Looks like we got the whole crew online now. Oa, if you're not a leader, go and put your vote on no leaders.
@Link, thoughts about MW sticking to his scumreads without hesitation after supposedly getting recruited?
I have a strong townread on you that's continued from yesterday, so I know for a fact that Oa was recruited on N1. I will never ever vote Oa this game.
Linkcat (3) - RootRanger, kaempfer13, andretimpa
RootRanger (1) - Linkcat
andretimpa (1) - shockcannon
I think there's a leader between Link and Root, but I'm not gonna tie the vote.
in b4 coolkid is a leader
Linkcat (3) - RootRanger, kaempfer13, andretimpa
RootRanger (1) - Linkcat
andretimpa (1) - shockcannon
I think there's a leader between Link and Root, but I'm not gonna tie the vote.
in b4 coolkid is a leader
Logic? + targets for the world?
I vote andre. Hope for a random lynch kae!!!
Nothing mattered, we were fucked from the beginning.
rr gets to select an additional winner though
rr gets to select an additional winner though
Finally a reason to holster
andre was cultist who spent the whole day trying to figure out wtf was going on
btw, this joke got MW to put together a format that's pretty much ready to go, so hopefully MW posts sign ups for that by next week & end of April / start of May you'll have a game without a bastard mod
So while everyone was confused as to how Root would make his series of recruits, I think I figured out one way he was going to prove his cult leader status at end: his picks were in alphabetical order, starting at himself, & wrapping from Z to A
So while everyone was confused as to how Root would make his series of recruits, I think I figured out one way he was going to prove his cult leader status at end: his picks were in alphabetical order, starting at himself, & wrapping from Z to AThat makes so much more sense than what I was doing lol. I grabbed shock and w3 as they were current/former Fire masters. Subsequent picks were intended to be cultists on the Big team, such that we would sweep through the game with a team of Fire. Was a bit surprised when andre didn't die after I targeted him. Although if I'd known that shock wouldn't actually vote alongside his cult leader, I may have done things differently.