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Who played the best mafia?

iancudorinmarian
2 (5.9%)
TheonlyrealBeef
3 (8.8%)
worldwideweb3
5 (14.7%)
Annele
0 (0%)
kaempfer13
1 (2.9%)
Calindu
0 (0%)
Linkcat
1 (2.9%)
moehrpi
0 (0%)
Submachine
13 (38.2%)
serprex
0 (0%)
MasterWalks
0 (0%)
andretimpa
1 (2.9%)
rob77dp
2 (5.9%)
shockcannon
1 (2.9%)
killsdazombies
4 (11.8%)
DoubleCapitals
0 (0%)
Coffeeditto
1 (2.9%)
Ge0metry v2.0
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 15

Voting closed: June 26, 2020, 09:57:32 pm

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297001#msg1297001
« Reply #144 on: May 22, 2020, 08:05:13 pm »
How Sub would know we'd both be alive? TMI? I like that observation Link. Care to start a wagon as what develops? I do.

Serp why ian? And 3 vultures - what's the import?

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297002#msg1297002
« Reply #145 on: May 22, 2020, 08:05:35 pm »
oh, I should change my vote

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297003#msg1297003
« Reply #146 on: May 22, 2020, 08:11:01 pm »
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I ate a ZERO poster. Not low activity, not annoying bravado poster, not joke poster, not power poster, you get the point maybe... Also, I tend to be a high profile personality in elements mafia games (or I guess used to be...) so I never presume to survive a night when I have no defensive assurances... As fate would have it it seems I had nothing to worry about (is it a BIT egotistical to snipe N0 - maybe, but it was not a YOLO and was not sketchy). Not to me at least.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297004#msg1297004
« Reply #147 on: May 22, 2020, 08:28:16 pm »
Now I can get to the Devour. Now, when I saw this, I wasn't that surprised that rob went for it, but I still facepalmed because THIS IS NOT MU, ROB. PEOPLE HERE HAVE LIVES. Also, it was Night 0, the least important phase of the game to be active in. He's in college, he could be having finals or something. It's not that uncommon for people to be afk for a couple days here, that's why our modkill system is more lenient than some other places. And, by the way, we have that modkill system for a reason. If you had held off just one Night like a reasonable person, then there would've been no point in killing him Night 1, since he would die anyway, and you would save a powerful ability, unless he had just made like 1 post in which case Devouring him would be justified.

If rob is town, his reasoning is that he was very likely to be an early NK target, so he better use his ability while he can, and there was a reasonable enough target, not realizing that such a move on this forum would draw him a lot of shade and waste time on Day 1 we could be better using to find the mafia. Lucky for him, mafia was actually intelligent and chose a great NK target, going for the group of players right below the juiciest targets.

If rob is mafia, his reasoning is that there is a certain point in the game where vigging a scumread is reasonable enough to not be that sus, and he was very likely to be investigated early on and not get to use his ability, which is a very strong one to have as mafia and not usually one you want to waste early. He would also have to believe that Coffee would actually become active, otherwise his ability would be wasted.

Analysis: Killing inactives with roles is a generally good practice, but rob super jumped the gun on it and its kind of a bad play as either alignment, but worse as town and I expect better play from rob. Slight scum read.

I clearly hinted at my pending action. I can almost guarantee inactivity becomes a magnet for scum to aim at it the inactive is town. If an inactive is scum then they can share by doing nothing. So I essentially vigged the lone inactive. Sadly they were town, but now we can actually work towards solving the game instead of debating a zero poster who was also, I might add, an inactivity modkill a year ago in their prior elements mafia participation. I DID NOT TAKE THE PLANNING OF MY ACTION LIGHTLY. Anyone want to discuss it further I'm game. Voting me ONLY because of that is inane (serp? Care to give your read of me and not just the makes hour?)
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297005#msg1297005
« Reply #148 on: May 22, 2020, 08:30:32 pm »
Oh coffee was target, silly me, got named mixed up since you were arguing with www3

Yeah, I'll change my vote eventually

Either serp is really laying on thick or he wasnt involved in the nightkill decision.

Could be either, NAI
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297006#msg1297006
« Reply #149 on: May 22, 2020, 08:35:08 pm »
How Sub would know we'd both be alive? TMI? I like that observation Link. Care to start a wagon as what develops? I do.

Serp why ian? And 3 vultures - what's the import?

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297007#msg1297007
« Reply #150 on: May 22, 2020, 08:43:29 pm »
I doubt rob is mafia, but even so, that was a really bad ability use.

serp is probably voting for me because I forgot to do exquisite decks for war.

I don't scumread Sub personally, but that could obviously change. He seems like the usual silly Sub.

Not voting for now, waiting for more discussion to develop.

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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297008#msg1297008
« Reply #151 on: May 22, 2020, 08:43:59 pm »
I can buddy whoever I want, buddy (hint- I'm not buddying anyone). I think it reads like Sub could be trying to imitate his prior games where I've seen him do things like not read a role pm (seriously?) and make before-I-die town plans\please etc. But it seems either rushed (eh could be I suppose) or disingenuous that I currently read scummy enough to get a vote.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297009#msg1297009
« Reply #152 on: May 22, 2020, 08:49:46 pm »
I can buddy whoever I want, buddy (hint- I'm not buddying anyone). I think it reads like Sub could be trying to imitate his prior games where I've seen him do things like not read a role pm (seriously?) and make before-I-die town plans\please etc. But it seems either rushed (eh could be I suppose) or disingenuous that I currently read scummy enough to get a vote.

Like iancu said, it's just normal Sub stuff, and it was rushed, he literally said he almost forgot the deadline.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297011#msg1297011
« Reply #153 on: May 22, 2020, 08:55:49 pm »
q.q RNG  >:(

story of your life  :(

I clearly hinted at my pending action. I can almost guarantee inactivity becomes a magnet for scum to aim at it the inactive is town. If an inactive is scum then they can share by doing nothing. So I essentially vigged the lone inactive. Sadly they were town, but now we can actually work towards solving the game instead of debating a zero poster who was also, I might add, an inactivity modkill a year ago in their prior elements mafia participation. I DID NOT TAKE THE PLANNING OF MY ACTION LIGHTLY. Anyone want to discuss it further I'm game. Voting me ONLY because of that is inane (serp? Care to give your read of me and not just the makes hour?)

Also, rob how is killing someone that early better than mislynching them later? We end up with one townie less anyway  :(
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297012#msg1297012
« Reply #154 on: May 22, 2020, 09:18:55 pm »
It's not like I had a decision between killing a town or not killing a town on my hands... If somehow I had KNOWN coffee was town before vigging him of course I just holster... As it was i had a choice with certain variables and constraints to consider and I made the choice to shoot and an left with a bit of egg on my face as it were...

andre - please know that inactives are distractions when mafia try to mislynch them or town argues over merits of lynching inactives during valuable day phases better spent elsewhere... Or inactive scum just typically get left alone.

Again, I regret coffee flipped town but I still believe in my decision process being fairly sound.
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Re: Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67825.msg1297013#msg1297013
« Reply #155 on: May 22, 2020, 09:24:07 pm »
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It's not like I had a decision between killing a town or not killing a town on my hands...

?? you had a decision between killing & not killing

 

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