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Who played the best mafia?

iancudorinmarian
0 (0%)
Linkcat
9 (15.5%)
PlayerOa
0 (0%)
JonathanCrazyJ
0 (0%)
immortal_feud
0 (0%)
kaempfer13
9 (15.5%)
ddevans96
8 (13.8%)
dawn to dusk
0 (0%)
InsignificantWeeaboo
0 (0%)
Espithel
4 (6.9%)
MasterWalks
1 (1.7%)
Mobian
1 (1.7%)
mathman101
0 (0%)
RootRanger
6 (10.3%)
shockcannon
6 (10.3%)
Ginyu
9 (15.5%)
Calindu
5 (8.6%)
moehrpi
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 19

Voting closed: June 24, 2019, 11:12:55 am

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290485#msg1290485
« Reply #756 on: June 04, 2019, 05:59:25 pm »
Mafia might try to NK a big player tonight, to try to force a mislynch on their connections. Be extremely wary of this.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290486#msg1290486
« Reply #757 on: June 04, 2019, 06:00:40 pm »
Day 4

Kaempfer13 died. He was an Elemental and an Otyugh.

I would like to call attention to a post I made earlier. It is not a new rule, more like a result of people disobeying the rules that exist since Night 0.

Here's the deal. From now on, if I see any unposted chat log about mafia, I will modkill all players involved in that chat log at the end of the phase.

It does not matter who posts the chat log as long as it's posted by the end of the phase.

From game rules:
"9. [...] You may communicate in the official Elements chat, but all relevant messages MUST be posted in this thread."

From general mafia rules:
"Breaking any of the [...] rules may result in a modkill as determined by the host"

Not everyone could see this post in time, so it's only taking effect from this phase.

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Day 4 has ended.


Edit 1 (June 5th): Cut down the timer by one day.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290487#msg1290487
« Reply #758 on: June 04, 2019, 06:02:47 pm »
Told you.

Also another Oty, wtf
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290488#msg1290488
« Reply #759 on: June 04, 2019, 06:03:38 pm »
uh, mafia killed the one person pretty much everyone agreed should get protected. I'm thinking mafia knows there is no more GA's.

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290489#msg1290489
« Reply #760 on: June 04, 2019, 06:05:35 pm »
Espithel (2) - MasterWalks, Mobian

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290490#msg1290490
« Reply #761 on: June 04, 2019, 06:05:42 pm »
This basically confirms that mafia has a roleblocker. There is no point in kaempfer not swallowing Espi.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290491#msg1290491
« Reply #762 on: June 04, 2019, 06:07:28 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290492#msg1290492
« Reply #763 on: June 04, 2019, 06:08:44 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290493#msg1290493
« Reply #764 on: June 04, 2019, 06:21:16 pm »
My firefly on kaempfer saw a Nightkill, hope that helps.

Put my vote on Espi. Also helping.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290494#msg1290494
« Reply #765 on: June 04, 2019, 06:23:10 pm »
Mafia might try to NK a big player tonight, to try to force a mislynch on their connections. Be extremely wary of this.

Or you could see that kaempfer was catching on, then kill him and frame it this way so people ignore what he said.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290495#msg1290495
« Reply #766 on: June 04, 2019, 06:23:28 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290496#msg1290496
« Reply #767 on: June 04, 2019, 06:27:29 pm »
Spoiler for Short Post Kaempf NK:
[10:58:46] ‹Linkcat› ‹@Submachine› Deadline?
[10:59:06] ‹Submachine› Coming.
[10:59:14] ‹Submachine› One more minute.
[11:00:18] ‹Submachine› Oh, dd sneaking in a post.
[11:00:39] ‹ddevans96› *giggles playfully*
[11:00:48] ‹ddevans96› me? never
[11:01:36] ‹Calindu› Oh, kae as Otyugh, I guess the ability got blocked
[11:02:02] ‹MasterWalks› uh
[11:02:04] ‹Linkcat› Must have been.
[11:02:06] ‹MasterWalks› this is a big deal
[11:02:17] ‹Linkcat› No reason he wouldn't use it.
[11:02:55] ‹Calindu› Yeah, I remember we discussed Otyugh targeting Espithel if possible
[11:03:43] ‹Mobian› Did you learn anything useful, Cali?
[11:04:07] ‹Calindu› Waiting for my PM
[11:04:35] ‹Submachine› PMs are slowly arriving.
[11:08:16] ‹Calindu› ‹@Mobian› Nothing I didn't expect
[11:08:53] ‹ddevans96› so you expected something useful and got something useful?
[11:09:02] ‹Calindu› So I guess we lynch Espithel and then try to find more info
[11:09:19] ‹Calindu› I expected to see Linkcat use Queen, and that's all I got
[11:09:32] ‹Calindu› The last night firefly got caught
[11:09:48] ‹ddevans96› hm, okay
[11:09:56] ‹Calindu› Not sure if I should reveal my target last night
[11:10:51] ‹Mobian› Who has yet to role reveal?
[11:11:51] ‹Calindu› Immortal Feud, Root, Mathman, Ginyu
[11:11:56] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@Mobian› Ginyu, Root, Math, immortal,
[11:12:10] ‹MasterWalks› Ninja cal
[11:12:13] ‹Calindu› I have sent a firefly to 2 of them and didn't get anything
[11:13:44] ‹MasterWalks› what if insig blocked kaempf
[11:13:55] ‹Mobian› MW's a dead man walking... but on the off chance you survive the next night, who would you nymph next?
[11:14:17] ‹MasterWalks› Ginyu
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[11:14:33] ‹MasterWalks› but if i survive i will be blocked
[11:14:42] ‹Calindu› There are a couple of people that could have blocked kaempf I think, IW, shock, maybe another blocker
[11:15:18] ‹Mobian› I got your back. Momentum will see you through
[11:15:37] ‹Calindu› Yeah, thanks for that, but I still can't see a mind flayer
[11:16:03] ‹Mobian› Was meant for MW
[11:16:14] ‹Calindu› Wait, what
[11:16:19] ‹Calindu› I got Momentum too
[11:16:38] ‹Mobian› Talking about next night
[11:16:57] ‹Mobian› I buffed you last night, Cali
[11:17:03] ‹Calindu› Oh, I got confused for a while
[11:18:03] ‹Mobian› DD, give me immaterial next night, please?
[11:18:24] ‹MasterWalks› One of us 3 will be killed if i had to guess
[11:19:01] ‹Mobian› ‹@MasterWalks› it's a given
[11:23:58] ‹ddevans96› yeah, probably
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