Poll

Who played the best mafia?

iancudorinmarian
0 (0%)
Linkcat
9 (15.5%)
PlayerOa
0 (0%)
JonathanCrazyJ
0 (0%)
immortal_feud
0 (0%)
kaempfer13
9 (15.5%)
ddevans96
8 (13.8%)
dawn to dusk
0 (0%)
InsignificantWeeaboo
0 (0%)
Espithel
4 (6.9%)
MasterWalks
1 (1.7%)
Mobian
1 (1.7%)
mathman101
0 (0%)
RootRanger
6 (10.3%)
shockcannon
6 (10.3%)
Ginyu
9 (15.5%)
Calindu
5 (8.6%)
moehrpi
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 19

Voting closed: June 24, 2019, 11:12:55 am

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290105#msg1290105
« Reply #516 on: May 29, 2019, 07:57:24 pm »
Here is the chatlog dump from before the Night phase ended. The timer was delayed a full hour, which I find incredible.

Note: Guest-MindFlayer is Submachine, Guest-MinorVampire is shock, Guest-Deathstalker is not playing.

Spoiler for Hidden:
[16:18:16] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› Thanks.
[16:19:44] ‹schaj5› Should've destroyed more of your sundials
[16:20:18] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› Yeah, that probably would have helped.
[16:20:25] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› anyways, searching for next
[16:24:56] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› gg
[16:25:09] ‹schaj5› Yeah I was pretty sure you wanted to throw weapons on me.
[16:27:58] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› searching for next
[16:27:59] ‹schaj5› So thank you. I have to go.
[16:28:09] ‹Wyand›
[16:28:34] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› No problem, see you later
[16:32:22] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[17:10:33] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[17:11:02] ‹Submachine›
[17:32:11] ‹Calindu›
[17:34:28] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[17:50:28] ‹moehrpi› It's time for some end-of-day mafia drama.
[17:50:50] ‹moehrpi›
[17:50:50] ‹Mobian› Yay drama!
[17:51:17] ‹moehrpi› It's not looking good for you, Link. :S
[17:55:03] ‹Mobian› Link doesn't have any votes on him yet
[17:56:35] ‹Submachine› Who will be lynched - dd, Insig, or someone else? Take your bets! :sillyspin:
[18:02:42] ‹Mobian› What to do, what to do?
[18:03:22] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[18:26:39] ‹ARTHANASIOS› /ρολλ
[18:26:42] ‹ARTHANASIOS› roll
[18:26:45] ‹ARTHANASIOS›
[18:26:50] ‹ARTHANASIOS› troll!
[18:29:08] ‹ARTHANASIOS› ‹@InsignificantWeeaboo› 12 lives?
[18:29:17] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› Sure
[18:29:48] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› ready g1
[18:31:02] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[18:31:03] ‹ARTHANASIOS› ‹@InsignificantWeeaboo› searching
[18:31:51] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› When does mag day end
[18:35:38] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Mafia ends in 1h25.
[18:48:38] ‹Wyand›
[18:54:31] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[19:21:46] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[19:23:35] ‹Guest-MinorVampire-8edcc› Dang insig with full meta
[19:24:35] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› Wouldn't call Time Rush meta...
[19:25:25] ‹Mobian› Shock, you got any last minute plays up your sleeve?
[19:26:34] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Isn’t arthas change invalid
[19:26:37] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Cause he didn’t win w air
[19:30:26] ‹Mobian› ‹@Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› yup
[19:43:44] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› [19:41:18] moehrpi joined. [19:41:36] moehrpi joined. [19:41:48] moehrpi joined.
[19:43:51] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› That's some black magic right there.
[19:45:26] ‹ddevans96› *sigh*
[19:45:35] ‹ddevans96› this was shaping up to be one of my best town games ever
[19:46:29] ‹ddevans96› anyone that can be convinced to vote on IW?
[19:47:35] ‹ddevans96› moehrpi, kaempfer: neither of you have voted yet, there's still time to save me
[19:49:07] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[19:49:11] ‹ddevans96› Espithel too, your vote is neutral atm
[19:52:03] ‹moehrpi› I am not sure I want to. Your lynch obviously gives a lot of information but it's hard to tell if losing a role is worth it.
[19:52:21] ‹moehrpi› I'd be down to lynch coffe/math, though.
[19:52:56] ‹moehrpi› I didn't ask Sub about modkills so I don't know if it makes any sense to waste a lynch and not get any information.
[19:52:56] ‹ddevans96› I don't think we can swing a vote onto anyone but Mobian and iancu
[19:53:03] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@ddevans96› out of weeb and you id rather get you out of the way; people will tunnel on you every round and nothing else gets discussed
[19:53:19] ‹ddevans96› just ignore MW the way you ignore shock
[19:53:20] ‹ddevans96› tbh
[19:53:21] ‹moehrpi› I am fairly sure Mobian is town.
[19:53:27] ‹kaempfer13› unless someone confirms weeb lied about his role
[19:53:39] ‹ddevans96› yeah, so do I - I'm town lean for both him and iancu
[19:53:57] ‹ddevans96› so there's pretty much no way for me to live unless we kill IW
[19:54:04] ‹kaempfer13› mobian is actually my strongest townread rn, albeit hes playing it poorly
[19:54:06] ‹moehrpi› Your 'info dump' / advice let's me think you lean town, again.
[19:54:27] ‹ddevans96› it's just frustrating because this is the best early-game I've played as town in years, lol
[19:55:24] ‹moehrpi› I highly agree with kae's 'people will tunnel on you every round'.
[19:55:35] ‹ddevans96› just MW, really
[19:55:41] ‹ddevans96› and again - ignore him like you would shock
[19:55:59] ‹moehrpi› That's what I also mentioned when I said redirecting a lynch to a town GA always looks suspicious.
[19:56:26] ‹ddevans96› even if I was mafia, there's no way I could have known jcj was GA
[19:56:53] ‹moehrpi› iancu also claimed an important role? I tend to give people the benefit of a doubt..
[19:56:55] ‹ddevans96› unless we got Psion
[19:57:00] ‹kaempfer13› pms from teammates with rolereveal
[19:57:13] ‹moehrpi› I can't tell how much info insig can gather.
[19:57:14] ‹ddevans96› and even then - that only worked bc he already had votes on hi,m
[19:57:22] ‹Guest-MinorVampire-8edcc› I’ll switch my vote off ddevans if ddevans votes for ian
[19:57:23] ‹ddevans96› what are the chances of all of that lining up?
[19:58:14] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Aaaaaaaa this is fun
[19:58:16] ‹ddevans96› done
[19:58:41] ‹ddevans96› someone else would have to vote on iancu, though
[19:58:46] ‹ddevans96› and he's a town lean for most people
[19:59:01] ‹ddevans96› otherwise it's tied
[19:59:12] ‹ddevans96› assuming you move your vote to him
[20:00:04] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› He played you :sillyspin:
[20:00:17] ‹ddevans96› I mean...no
[20:00:25] ‹ddevans96› it's my best chance to survive
[20:00:39] ‹ddevans96› and I only think iancu is town, I know I'm town - so that's always the play
[20:01:21] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› I mean, he won’t change his vote :sillyspin:
[20:01:23] ‹ddevans96› ‹@Guest-MinorVampire-8edcc› you have to vote like now to keep the timer alive
[20:01:36] ‹ddevans96› can you shut up? you aren't playing
[20:01:41] ‹ddevans96› seriously. just bystand. jfc
[20:02:27] ‹ddevans96› there's literally no reason for me NOT to do it
[20:03:10] ‹ddevans96› ‹@shockcannon› merci <3
[20:03:25] ‹shockcannon› im personally hoping for no lynch
[20:03:26] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› I feel like the hecking reaper just by having this post ready, with dd's name and role typed in already...
[20:03:30] ‹shockcannon› lets see what happens
[20:04:08] ‹kaempfer13› given that i dont agree with no lynch ill vote dd out of those 2 before timer ends if needed
[20:04:21] ‹ddevans96› I'll take no lynch over lynching me, obviously
[20:04:37] ‹kaempfer13› nothing personal
[20:05:21] ‹ddevans96› you'll get lynched tomorrow, then - you'll be the vote that hammered a town
[20:05:31] ‹ddevans96› and you're already a lowkey popular lynch target
[20:06:21] ‹kaempfer13› going for no lynch speaks for being mafia/bad unless you know more
[20:06:40] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› Test
[20:06:51] ‹ddevans96› I mean, I know I'm town, so for me, it's lynching a town over not lynching a town
[20:06:53] ‹ddevans96› pretty basic stuff
[20:07:04] ‹Calindu› I'm not sure about ian either, I'd rather lynch him than have a no lynch
[20:07:11] ‹ddevans96› please go for it
[20:07:16] ‹ddevans96› like now
[20:07:18] ‹ddevans96› before timer stops
[20:07:25] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Kaemp voted already
[20:07:29] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Another 5 mins
[20:07:32] ‹Calindu› Kae already voted on you though
[20:07:33] ‹ddevans96› oh nvm, kaempfer reset
[20:07:42] ‹ddevans96› *sigh*
[20:07:46] ‹ddevans96› such a huge mistake, honestly
[20:07:47] ‹kaempfer13› cal can make it a tie again i guess
[20:07:52] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› These votes are really cutting it close.
[20:08:02] ‹ddevans96› no, Cal would move the vote to iancu
[20:08:06] ‹ddevans96› bc his vote is currently on me
[20:08:22] ‹kaempfer13› this will be how it is every round dd is alive if things continue
[20:08:24] ‹ddevans96› so it comes down to who he's rather lynch
[20:08:24] ‹Calindu› I'm not even sure what to think anymore now, I believe both you and ian are mafia, the way I see it
[20:08:40] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Shock voted
[20:08:41] ‹kaempfer13› oh yh, so he can make the call
[20:09:07] ‹ddevans96› ‹@kaempfer13› no, it won't be
[20:09:08] ‹Calindu› Ok, I don't see any reason to lynch IW, so this is off the table now
[20:09:19] ‹ddevans96› 1) just start ignoring MW, seriously. he's shock lite
[20:09:37] ‹ddevans96› 2) if I was mafia, we'd be absolutely stupid to save me two nights in a row
[20:09:51] ‹ddevans96› everyone involved in saving me would come under extreme suspicion, and many of those would be mafia
[20:09:53] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[20:10:04] ‹ddevans96› if I'm mafia, the smart play is to let me die rn
[20:10:24] ‹ddevans96› you're just making excuses for MW's bad play if you lynch bc 'this will happen every round'
[20:10:46] ‹shockcannon› timers ticking
[20:11:16] ‹kaempfer13› yh, but since i dont know if y ou are mafia you could still be it
[20:11:33] ‹ddevans96› there is zero chance I'm mafia if I live today
[20:11:40] ‹Calindu› I don't want to lynch another absent person, this just blocks any information dump if they want to do it to save themselves
[20:11:46] ‹shockcannon› lol that's stupidly false
[20:11:50] ‹shockcannon› but ok
[20:12:02] ‹ddevans96› I literally detailed above
[20:12:09] ‹ddevans96› that would be the worst play mafia could make
[20:12:10] ‹ddevans96› bar none
[20:12:12] ‹moehrpi› ‹@shockcannon› Why did you revert to Insig?
[20:12:17] ‹shockcannon› ‹@ddevans96› dude
[20:12:22] ‹shockcannon› i'm literally giving you a chance to live
[20:12:25] ‹shockcannon› you have like 30 seconds
[20:12:26] ‹kaempfer13› only espithel matches with your saving votes last round, so mafia not saving you this time confirmed
[20:12:36] ‹Wyand›
[20:13:07] ‹shockcannon›
[20:13:09] ‹kaempfer13› that does make it more likely you are mafia though
[20:13:33] ‹shockcannon› alright now that we have a timer reset
[20:13:45] ‹shockcannon› ‹@ddevans96› i think you should role reveal before you die
[20:13:48] ‹shockcannon› may actually save you
[20:13:52] ‹ddevans96› if I'm about to die, sure
[20:13:56] ‹shockcannon› because I think you're going to die if you dont say anything
[20:14:03] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› Time is up, but I am confused by that quote.
[20:14:06] ‹kaempfer13› yep give us everything you have
[20:14:09] ‹shockcannon› i dont think I can maintain this tie vote
[20:14:11] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› It’s not up sub
[20:14:17] ‹ddevans96› time is...not up?
[20:14:19] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› SD just forgot numbers, another 5 mins
[20:14:19] ‹ddevans96› that's a vote
[20:14:23] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Dd*
[20:14:29] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› He voted inside the quote.
[20:14:36] ‹kaempfer13› can i move my vote back and forth just to give you time for the reveal?
[20:14:47] ‹Calindu› Reveal and info dump, maybe someone can confirm
[20:14:53] ‹shockcannon› ‹@ddevans96› you gotta give us something
[20:14:58] ‹shockcannon› either role
[20:14:59] ‹shockcannon› or something else
[20:15:03] ‹shockcannon› but people gonna lynch you
[20:15:07] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› FWIW, moe voted.
[20:15:07] ‹shockcannon› I dont think I can save you
[20:15:13] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› dd just quoted the last post? I can only give 1 extra minute.
[20:15:17] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› For a vote correction etc.
[20:15:27] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› Deadline is hour:16.
[20:15:37] ‹ddevans96› it's not a vote correction
[20:15:37] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› ‹@Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› he changed the vote from Ian to IW
[20:15:42] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Plus moe just voted
[20:15:45] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› So another reset.
[20:15:45] ‹ddevans96› and then moer voted
[20:16:21] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› Oh, right.
[20:16:24] ‹kaempfer13› insig anything you can give us, you are about to die now
[20:16:28] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› The numbers were not updated.
[20:16:31] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› The timer goes on.
[20:16:36] ‹ddevans96› yeah, I clarified in the following post
[20:17:01] ‹ddevans96› I thought I had less time than I did, miscounted by a minute
[20:17:06] ‹kaempfer13› unfortunately role reveal isomething you already did
[20:17:20] ‹Calindu› Why wouldn't you protect yourself as Anubis?
[20:17:37] ‹ddevans96› because then I can't be targeted by -anything-
[20:17:48] ‹ddevans96› that includes investigative roles
[20:17:54] ‹ddevans96› it looks scummy to use early
[20:17:58] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@ddevans96› have a tab with an infodumbpost ready
[20:18:14] ‹ddevans96› I already gave my info dump, lol
[20:18:18] ‹ddevans96› unless you want detailed scumreads
[20:18:38] ‹Calindu› I'll reset the timer
[20:18:56] ‹ddevans96› for scumreads?
[20:18:57] ‹shockcannon› honestly
[20:18:59] ‹shockcannon› with that info
[20:19:02] ‹shockcannon› i think we go no lynch today
[20:19:05] ‹shockcannon› or lynch on ian
[20:19:20] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@ddevans96› role?
[20:19:30] ‹ddevans96› ANUBIS
[20:19:32] ‹ddevans96› READ THE THREAD
[20:19:38] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@ddevans96› immaterial me next night and I'll change vote
[20:19:49] ‹Calindu› I'd take lynching ian over a no lynch, but I still believe it might not be the best play
[20:19:49] ‹ddevans96› or read chat, since Cal said it
[20:20:16] ‹ddevans96› and yeah, I prefer iancu lynch to no lynch as well
[20:20:59] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› Anyone who's voting me, I'll target a person of your choosing if you move your vote to literally anyone
[20:21:18] ‹shockcannon› i've taken a 180
[20:21:19] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› Can't guarantee it will be next night, though
[20:21:27] ‹shockcannon› i think ian, ddevans, and insig may all be town
[20:21:28] ‹ddevans96› ‹@InsignificantWeeaboo› my vote is off you
[20:21:34] ‹shockcannon› I don't think its worth lynching
[20:21:37] ‹ddevans96› it's now iancu 6, IW 4, me 3
[20:21:43] ‹MasterWalks› Yes or no dd
[20:21:51] ‹Calindu› With that Anubis claim I believe dd might be town as well
[20:21:55] ‹kaempfer13› ah that one was eaten by the votes so I didnt see
[20:22:03] ‹moehrpi› ‹@ddevans96› Can I trade vote for immortality? :silly:
[20:22:11] ‹Calindu› It makes sense, you would definitely target yourself as Anubis if you were mafia
[20:22:17] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› ‹@ddevans96› Ok. Who would you like me to block?
[20:22:18] ‹kaempfer13› damn no infodumb from iancu though
[20:22:25] ‹ddevans96› I'm not using this garbage ability on anyone unless I'm very sure they're town
[20:22:50] ‹shockcannon› we need iancu info
[20:22:54] ‹shockcannon› we can't lynch him blindly
[20:23:08] ‹shockcannon› seriously guys
[20:23:08] ‹Calindu› If any of the fireflies can confirm dd not using his ability N0, that would be great
[20:23:10] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› Voting No Lynch is an option.
[20:23:11] ‹shockcannon› trust me on this one and go no lynch
[20:23:14] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› But time is ticking.
[20:23:24] ‹ddevans96› I already caught a Firefly n0
[20:23:27] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› Not like he can get on here and infodump in time though
[20:23:35] ‹MasterWalks› We should not no lynch
[20:24:03] ‹Calindu› Lynching ian is stupid, since he's absent, I don't want a repeat of D1 where JCJ couldn't even defend himself
[20:24:09] ‹Calindu› But no lynch is even worse
[20:24:12] ‹ddevans96› I have like 10 tabs of this game open, aaaaaa
[20:24:21] ‹Calindu› ‹@ddevans96› Yeah, if someone can confirm that, that would be great
[20:24:47] ‹ddevans96› fair
[20:24:58] ‹kaempfer13› damn, we need ians info and insig is probably town so long as we dont have evidence of him lying
[20:25:29] ‹ddevans96› I don't think I can legally swap back to IW immediately
[20:25:34] ‹ddevans96› so I can vote Mobian to reset timer
[20:25:39] ‹ddevans96› or anyone else
[20:25:43] ‹shockcannon› has ian claimed anything
[20:25:52] ‹moehrpi› We could always let dd orchestrate a lynch on Root. :)
[20:26:01] ‹kaempfer13› not being able to do anything
[20:26:02] ‹Calindu› ‹@shockcannon› No, he just claimed he can gather info
[20:26:08] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› Give him a conductor's rod
[20:26:12] ‹kaempfer13› is what he claimed
[20:26:15] ‹shockcannon› so info role?
[20:26:16] ‹ddevans96› O R C H E S T R A T E
[20:26:18] ‹shockcannon› did he really say that?
[20:26:21] ‹shockcannon› wait ddevans
[20:26:24] ‹Calindu› Resetting timer again
[20:26:26] ‹ddevans96› ye?
[20:26:30] ‹shockcannon› you didnt use it at all?
[20:26:32] ‹shockcannon› anubis?
[20:26:44] ‹shockcannon› ‹@Calindu›
[20:26:44] ‹ddevans96› nope. we agreed it was scummy to use early game
[20:26:45] ‹shockcannon› ‹@Calindu›
[20:26:50] ‹ddevans96› and I agree
[20:26:56] ‹shockcannon› GOSH DANG IT
[20:27:10] ‹Calindu› ‹@shockcannon› ?
[20:27:20] ‹shockcannon› i was trying to distract you
[20:27:24] ‹shockcannon› so timer didnt reset
[20:27:27] ‹shockcannon› but moehrpi
[20:27:28] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› Should someone ping ian on Discord to infodump?
[20:27:38] ‹kaempfer13› is removing votes a thing or does it have to be moved?
[20:27:40] ‹moehrpi› ‹@shockcannon› No lynch is not an option
[20:27:49] ‹shockcannon› it really is
[20:28:04] ‹moehrpi› Espi did remove earlier without voting 'no-lych' iirc.
[20:28:26] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› Moe's EBWOP does not count as a timer reset.
[20:28:30] ‹shockcannon› lol wrong button
[20:28:31] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› But his original vote does.
[20:28:41] ‹ddevans96› pinged on discord
[20:29:02] ‹Calindu› I can reset timer again if needed
[20:29:02] ‹shockcannon› my post means nothing
[20:29:32] ‹MasterWalks› Wait, so are we extending to give Ian time to info dump?
[20:29:36] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› shock's post is also a repeat, so that didn't reset timer either
[20:29:38] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› This must be quite an even t for you.
[20:29:38] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› Yeah
[20:29:41] ‹MasterWalks› I'm on mobile so kinda hard to follow
[20:29:53] ‹ddevans96› yeah
[20:29:55] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› ‹@moehrpi› It is an event alright.
[20:30:04] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[20:30:16] ‹shockcannon› honestly
[20:30:22] ‹shockcannon› nvm
[20:30:58] ‹Calindu› Timer reset
[20:32:14] ‹Calindu› Did ian respond?
[20:32:19] ‹ddevans96› what if shock wants us to NL bc he's mafia and one of his mates is up for the noose
[20:32:23] ‹ddevans96› not yet
[20:32:48] ‹kaempfer13› if someone claims insig lied i will vote for lynching him, otherwise i dunno what to do as ians infodumb would be important
[20:33:04] ‹ddevans96› reset vote
[20:33:18] ‹moehrpi› ‹@InsignificantWeeaboo› Didn't you guard iancu N1?
[20:33:24] ‹ddevans96› a bit early
[20:33:29] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› No, I didn
[20:33:32] ‹Calindu› Most people read IW as town
[20:33:36] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› 't target anyone N0
[20:33:57] ‹moehrpi› ‹@InsignificantWeeaboo› But last night?
[20:34:06] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› Saw the "No roleblocking roles N0" and didn't realize Warden was an exception.
[20:34:12] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› Last night I targetted DD
[20:34:15] ‹shockcannon› honestly
[20:34:17] ‹shockcannon› if ddevans is town
[20:34:20] ‹shockcannon› we're in trouble
[20:34:52] ‹ddevans96› (dd is town btw)
[20:34:52] ‹Calindu› If he is telling the truth about his role, then he is 90% town
[20:35:11] ‹ddevans96› wait. forums pls. I changed the number on iancu's vote
[20:35:13] ‹ddevans96› *sigh*
[20:35:59] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Rip shocks post
[20:36:08] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› shock reset the vote on my screen
[20:36:43] ‹moehrpi› ‹@ddevans96› You really should pay respect to that warning.
[20:36:56] ‹ddevans96› it didn't show up for me
[20:37:32] ‹ddevans96› probably bc I have different tabs open
[20:37:37] ‹kaempfer13› that happened to me earlier as well
[20:37:44] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› When looking at the timer, remember that shock's vote is currently the last vote.
[20:38:07] ‹moehrpi› ian's dump would really help right about now. Otherwise shock is just going to mess up any lynch.
[20:38:24] ‹moehrpi› And I don't want to hammer anyone before that.
[20:38:25] ‹Calindu› This is a quote from ian's posts: "Anyway, tonight I'm going to need some protection to get some more info. @2nd GA, protect me tonight please. You know who you are."
[20:38:42] ‹Calindu› Didn't ian say he got role blocked twice?
[20:38:50] ‹ddevans96› I reset correctly this time, pog
[20:38:55] ‹Calindu› How can he even know if there is a 2nd GA
[20:39:13] ‹ddevans96› if he has an investigative role of some kind
[20:39:14] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Calindu› He might be mafia.
[20:39:19] ‹MasterWalks› ian might be psion and he might be maf
[20:39:22] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› Probably an info role. Psion?
[20:39:24] ‹Calindu› But he claimed he got blocked twice
[20:39:28] ‹MasterWalks› lying about being blocked
[20:39:32] ‹moehrpi› ‹@ddevans96› Not if he is blocked continuously.
[20:39:42] ‹Calindu› When could he find that info if he's blocked
[20:39:54] ‹Calindu› Ian has no info dump if he has been telling the truth
[20:40:00] ‹moehrpi› Tbf, he didn't claim his info was obtained via his role.
[20:40:04] ‹ddevans96› so either he
[20:40:09] ‹ddevans96› he's lying or he has nothing?
[20:40:22] ‹Calindu› That's the way I see it now, yeah
[20:40:35] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› Either he's bluffing about there being a 2nd GA or he's lying about being blocked
[20:40:40] ‹shockcannon› ironic that I called out ian day1
[20:40:46] ‹shockcannon› and now everyone all of sudden wants to lynch ian
[20:40:51] ‹shockcannon› and here I am trying not to lynch anyone
[20:41:06] ‹Calindu› Sure, there are chances he's lying about being blocked in order to protect a power role
[20:41:08] ‹kaempfer13› ok fair, ian it is
[20:41:13] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› If you put it that way, it is ironic.
[20:41:21] ‹shockcannon› it's almost as if I was ahead of all the townies
[20:41:36] ‹MasterWalks› dont get too far ahead of yourself there shock
[20:41:40] ‹shockcannon› and here I am, still ahead and telling people not to lynch
[20:41:49] ‹shockcannon› for reals guys
[20:41:51] ‹shockcannon› i've taken a 180
[20:41:58] ‹shockcannon› I think lynching ian right now might not work out
[20:42:25] ‹Calindu› ‹@shockcannon› How so?
[20:42:34] ‹kaempfer13› should i hammer him even harder or can we let sub post yet
[20:42:46] ‹RootRanger› so day is still going because people keep voting every 5 minutes?
[20:42:52] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› Sub pushed for no lynch last time and he turned out to be mafia...
[20:42:57] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Wassup root
[20:43:11] ‹RootRanger› can we stop acting like shockcannon is anything other than random noise
[20:43:29] ‹ddevans96› yep - prevents vote sniping at the very end, and let's town come to a consensus like they would in hammer-based mafia
[20:43:49] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› We're trying to stall for an infodump by ian, but now we're wondering if it's worth it
[20:44:00] ‹shockcannon› The reason why I've been calling out ian all these past days when no one wanted to believe me is because I thought ddevans was also mafia
[20:44:12] ‹shockcannon› but the reason why you guys are voting up ian is because you think ddevans is town
[20:44:19] ‹RootRanger› "no one wanted to believe me"
[20:44:29] ‹kaempfer13› i am mostly pushing for lynches, it was the prime motivator of my vote, just said ian cant tell anything, but yh other than getting lastminute reads in we cant expect anything from him today anyway
[20:44:32] ‹RootRanger› yeah because you're making outrageous claims way beyond any info you could possibly have
[20:44:46] ‹RootRanger› you've never wanted to make yourself believable
[20:44:49] ‹Calindu› I find ian the most likely person to be mafia out of the 3 buses
[20:45:01] ‹Calindu› And no lynch doesn't help
[20:45:05] ‹shockcannon› outrageous claims?
[20:45:08] ‹kaempfer13› *sad*
[20:45:09] ‹shockcannon› literally ian is about to get lynched
[20:45:13] ‹shockcannon› and i'm not even one voting for him
[20:45:18] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Join in jcj
[20:45:20] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› This is fun
[20:45:27] ‹JonathanCrazyJ› am i allowed to say that this mafia is hilarious?
[20:45:30] ‹RootRanger› outrageous claims = "blah blah is 100% mafia, blah blah blah is 95% mafia, etc."
[20:45:34] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› I can talk about maf to you yay
[20:45:39] ‹RootRanger› you do not have that information. stop talking.
[20:45:40] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› oRcHeStRaTe
[20:45:47] ‹shockcannon› lol
[20:45:49] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› Someone should post chat logs after the timer avoids being reset.
[20:45:55] ‹ddevans96› O R C H E S T R A T E B T W
[20:46:05] ‹RootRanger› also who are the guests
[20:46:21] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› <-- Sub
[20:46:24] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› deathstalker is www
[20:46:27] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› Deathstalker is www3
[20:46:28] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› No idea who oty is
[20:46:33] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Wassup root
[20:46:38] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› Oty is afk.
[20:46:43] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› so it doesn't matter to me :silly:
[20:46:49] ‹RootRanger› oki hey
[20:47:04] ‹RootRanger› Sub: are all these vote shenanigans considered stalling for time?
[20:47:16] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› ‹@RootRanger› Confirmed.
[20:47:47] ‹Calindu› What the hell
[20:47:51] ‹RootRanger› As in, will the round end *only* when 5 minutes have passed without voting
[20:47:54] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› LOL
[20:47:55] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› SHOCK
[20:47:57] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› IM DEAD
[20:48:13] ‹RootRanger› or will it end if there is someone clearly with the most votes
[20:48:16] ‹ddevans96› lmao
[20:48:18] ‹shockcannon› fuck it
[20:48:25] ‹ddevans96› If I was right the whole time, and shock is GN
[20:48:29] ‹shockcannon› this is going down as the greatest mafia game ever
[20:48:31] ‹ddevans96› I'm going to die laughing
[20:48:37] ‹RootRanger› shock isn't GN
[20:48:41] ‹RootRanger› and no, it isn't going to
[20:48:41] ‹Guest-Mummy-9c15a› <-moe because he can't operate computers.
[20:48:45] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› ROFL
[20:48:50] ‹RootRanger› it's just a normal game being derailed, again
[20:49:00] ‹Calindu› I reset the timer again
[20:49:11] ‹Calindu› 5 more minutes to process the new info
[20:49:46] ‹RootRanger› There is no new info
[20:49:55] ‹Calindu› Why would you push a lynch on ian if you are GN
[20:50:01] ‹Calindu› You probably investigated him N0
[20:50:02] ‹shockcannon› alright
[20:50:04] ‹shockcannon› i legit need to go
[20:50:07] ‹shockcannon› i really hope ian doesn't die
[20:50:15] ‹shockcannon› i strongly advise no lynch
[20:50:18] ‹shockcannon› but do what you want
[20:50:21] ‹shockcannon› i'm not reseting timer anymore
[20:50:22] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[20:50:29] ‹RootRanger› If he is genuinely GN, he's playing badly enough to be considered to be throwing the game
[20:50:46] ‹RootRanger› Lowkey I hope he is so this can be considered grounds for barring him from future mafias, but eh, he's probably just a normal civ
[20:50:47] ‹Calindu› I can't really trust shock either
[20:51:12] ‹Calindu› He pushed the ian lynch way too much for this to make sense
[20:51:29] ‹RootRanger› He literally just wants attention
[20:51:47] ‹RootRanger› I called him out for it last game but I'm no longer phoenix-god anymore, so voting on him this round didn't really do much
[20:51:53] ‹JonathanCrazyJ› hahaha
[20:51:55] ‹Calindu› Thoughts, everyone?
[20:52:10] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› I don't think any multiples of 90 can convince me...
[20:52:23] ‹MasterWalks› lol
[20:52:34] ‹ddevans96› honestly? I'm gonna choose to believe he's telling the truth and my hunch that he was GN was right. it probably isn't, but the thought of that scenario is hilarious
[20:53:44] ‹Calindu› ‹@ddevans96› How do you explain the aggressive push on ian, then?
[20:53:46] ‹RootRanger› So at this point I'm unsure if we even have a Psion, but if we do, and we find out that shock is lying about GN, can we pleaseeeeeeee lynch him the next day
[20:54:00] ‹ddevans96› shock being an idiot and a wildcard
[20:54:06] ‹ddevans96› literally, there is no logic with him
[20:54:19] ‹ddevans96› ‹@Calindu› did you mean to put your vote onto iancu?
[20:54:37] ‹ddevans96› bc his number was raised from 4 to 5
[20:54:37] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› Please update the correct vote count.
[20:54:41] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› Cal missed a number.
[20:54:59] ‹Calindu› Yeah, I wanted it on ian
[20:55:01] ‹Calindu› My bad
[20:55:37] ‹MasterWalks› ian isnt going to give us anything. i think we need to lynch someone and finish the day up
[20:55:51] ‹MasterWalks› he might if hes lynched
[20:56:02] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› ‹@moehrpi› Responding to your earlier question again, yeah, this certainly is an event.
[20:56:03] ‹RootRanger› @Calindu what was your opposition to IW?
[20:56:06] ‹MasterWalks› but hes not going to give us any info to prevent lynch i bet
[20:56:21] ‹RootRanger› ian has also told us all he can
[20:56:23] ‹RootRanger› He was roleblocked twice
[20:56:30] ‹RootRanger› Whatever role he is, he hasn't gotten info out of it
[20:56:33] ‹RootRanger› All he would have is hunches
[20:56:39] ‹Calindu› ‹@RootRanger› I don't think he's mafia, him guarding dd as mafia doesn't make that much sense
[20:56:52] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@ddevans96› why is your vote still on insig?
[20:56:59] ‹MasterWalks› you still think he is mafia
[20:57:03] ‹ddevans96› bc I moved it back
[20:57:06] ‹Calindu› I posted this about 20 minutes ago: [19:38:25] ‹Calindu› This is a quote from ian's posts: "Anyway, tonight I'm going to need some protection to get some more info. @2nd GA, protect me tonight please. You know who you are."
[20:57:35] ‹MasterWalks› because you think hes maf or to extend timer?
[20:57:44] ‹ddevans96› timer
[20:57:57] ‹Calindu› Ian being roleblocked twice means ian has no idea if there is a 2nd GA
[20:57:58] ‹ddevans96› ‹@Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› we need a ruling on Cal's votes
[20:58:09] ‹RootRanger› Aye
[20:58:15] ‹ddevans96› bc the correction that actually shows his vote was after the 5-minute mark
[20:58:17] ‹RootRanger› ian and shock are both not making sense
[20:58:29] ‹RootRanger› which normally i'd attribute to being mafia, but that's also how they played last game so idk
[20:58:30] ‹ddevans96› I bet iancu and shock are both mafia
[20:58:34] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› If I do end up making out of this alive, someone protecc me plz
[20:58:47] ‹RootRanger› so the one upside to the ian lynch is that it's a 2-for-1 if we're correct
[20:58:48] ‹Calindu› ‹@ddevans96› I did update 2 numbers, and everyone understood that I wanted to vote on ian
[20:59:02] ‹RootRanger› as in, the best case is that we kill 2 mafia, the worst case is that we kill 2 civs
[20:59:37] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@RootRanger› shouldnt mafia making more sense be logical?
[20:59:56] ‹RootRanger› So the basic idea is that mafia is forced to lie while civs are not
[20:59:56] ‹ddevans96› yeah, the intent was clear
[21:00:00] ‹ddevans96› so I think it should be fine
[21:00:04] ‹kaempfer13› bc they know so much more and can tell each other what to do
[21:00:06] ‹RootRanger› Which means civs should have no difficulty making sense, but it's harder for mafia
[21:00:21] ‹RootRanger› The problem with *Elements* mafia is that half the players have difficulty making sense regardless of alignment
[21:00:48] ‹RootRanger› God this is making me vile lol
[21:00:57] ‹RootRanger› I'm just annoyed at shock for ruining the game
[21:01:00] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@RootRanger› the problem of assuming everyone is perfectly logical
[21:01:07] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Pls join next mafia everyone. I want to play in one. Kthnx
[21:01:12] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› We passed the 1 hour mark!
[21:01:14] ‹RootRanger› They are, for the right games
[21:01:18] ‹ddevans96› I don't think the game is ruined, tbh
[21:01:19] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› The votes have been reset for a full hour.
[21:01:21] ‹RootRanger› Or with the right groups
[21:01:22] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› Just incredible.
[21:01:35] ‹ddevans96› it's just someone playing as chaotic as possible
[21:01:35] ‹RootRanger› It's not ruined, it's just...worse
[21:01:48] ‹moehrpi› Guess iancu dies without a dump.
[21:02:04] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› S-H-I-T
[21:02:06] ‹RootRanger› He dumped everything as is
[21:02:08] ‹Calindu› I don't think there's any info dump
[21:02:10] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› You know what will
[21:02:11] ‹RootRanger› He was roleblocked twice
[21:02:18] ‹RootRanger› He has no hard info
[21:02:46] ‹kaempfer13› although in my case it was mostly just not thinking far enough and going of the 2 premises that town talks and town doesnt hinder each other that my odd behaviour stemmed from
[21:02:47] ‹moehrpi› ‹@RootRanger› dd only claimed his role and people moved their votes away from him.
[21:02:48] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Time up?
[21:02:51] ‹ddevans96› day is now over, if I'm not mistaken
[21:02:59] ‹RootRanger› Yeah, time's up
[21:03:10] ‹ddevans96› wow, this was intense
[21:03:16] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› ^
[21:03:27] ‹moehrpi› ggwp everyone.
[21:03:31] ‹ddevans96› ‹@InsignificantWeeaboo› we live another day - rejoice
[21:03:35] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› LOL
[21:03:37] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› AHAHAHAHAHA
[21:03:38] ‹RootRanger› iancu was all 4 of the mafia using one account, we won
[21:03:39] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› THIS IS FUNNY
[21:03:41] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› Post first part of chatlogs.
[21:03:43] ‹Calindu› Oh, rip
[21:03:54] ‹Espithel› Oh.
[21:03:54] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› vagman was the mafia all along
[21:03:55] ‹kaempfer13› and ian was town psion, gj
[21:04:04] ‹Espithel› Oh FUCK it's end of phase already?
[21:04:08] ‹Calindu› He was Oty
[21:04:12] ‹Espithel› I thought that was tomorrow
[21:04:12] ‹kaempfer13› well almost
[21:04:21] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› Oh shit we found confirmed oty
[21:04:32] ‹RootRanger› Why the fuck was he trying to use his ability on N0
[21:04:32] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› too bad he was town tho
[21:04:38] ‹RootRanger› sry for profanity but COME ON buddy
[21:04:45] ‹RootRanger› Oh hi ian
[21:04:45] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› ‹@iancudorinmarian› bruh
[21:04:46] ‹MasterWalks› well we lynched scum town
[21:04:51] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Ahaha was
[21:04:55] ‹kaempfer13› alright that makes insig indirectly suspicious for potentially framing an oty
[21:05:00] ‹RootRanger› Nothing personal, aye?
[21:05:03] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› shit
[21:05:04] ‹Calindu› If Fate Egg dies, does it flip Fate Egg, or the ability of that night?
[21:05:21] ‹RootRanger› Ah calin is asking the right questions
[21:05:24] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› It flips Fate Egg. That's what happened when I died last round
[21:05:29] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› *last mafia
[21:05:29] ‹MasterWalks› fate egg still reveals as fate egg and the role it had
[21:05:31] ‹RootRanger› That would actually explain a lot
[21:05:36] ‹RootRanger› Oh :/ right
[21:05:36] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› ‹@InsignificantWeeaboo› It is different.
[21:05:39] ‹ddevans96› 'you are disguised as that role if investigated or revealed. '
[21:05:47] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› Read the role description.
[21:05:55] ‹ddevans96› so I would bet good money that the FE/Oty theory is correct
[21:06:50] ‹RootRanger› do we think he was lying about being roleblocked to try to draw out info?
[21:07:00] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› holy shit day 2 lasted 13 pages
[21:07:13] ‹ddevans96› he could have been
[21:07:14] ‹RootRanger› Oh wow
[21:07:17] ‹RootRanger› So he was FE
[21:07:19] ‹RootRanger› likely
[21:07:35] ‹ddevans96› that seems to make the most sense
[21:08:06] ‹Calindu› Him being Oty and trying to use that ability makes no sense, so most likely he was FE
[21:08:23] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@InsignificantWeeaboo› im not sure if someone asked yet, but what exactly were you trying to achieve by revealing dd was targeted by oty?
[21:08:58] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› Basically to confirm we have an Oty. Probably not the best choice
[21:09:17] ‹ddevans96› ‹@Calindu› does iancu flipping town change your opinion that I'm likely town after the Anubis claim?
[21:09:42] ‹Calindu› ‹@ddevans96› I'm not sure now, because there's a high change he was the one targeting you
[21:10:47] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[21:10:56] ‹Calindu› So IW blocked ian's Otyugh on dd, I believe that makes the most sense
[21:11:16] ‹ddevans96› I would have had no way to assume he was targeting me
[21:11:36] ‹ddevans96› and remember I thought he was town
[21:12:48] ‹ddevans96› but yeah, I should not be treated as free of suspicion just bc of the Anubis claim
[21:13:05] ‹Calindu› Yeah, but him targeting you makes the most sense
[21:13:16] ‹Calindu› And the question is: why would he target you?
[21:13:26] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› I would assume a scumread...
[21:13:36] ‹ddevans96› because he thinks I'm mafia
[21:13:44] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Iannnnn
[21:13:46] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› We can talk
[21:13:50] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› About maf yay
[21:13:54] ‹Calindu› But ian saved you both times in the end
[21:13:56] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› ‹@iancudorinmarian› sorry man
[21:13:59] ‹RootRanger› @ian I take back the "come on buddy" now that I realize you could have been fate egg, sry :p
[21:14:08] ‹Calindu› So this doesn't make any sense either
[21:14:37] ‹ddevans96› only the first round
[21:15:06] ‹ddevans96› maybe that situation changed his read from town/neutral to mafia
[21:15:09] ‹Calindu› True, but him and you started the train on IW
[21:16:21] ‹ddevans96› this is true
[21:16:25] ‹MasterWalks› did ian vote on insig before or after insigs reveal?
[21:17:00] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› on another note, shock is not infinitely unreliable
[21:17:43] ‹Calindu› ‹@MasterWalks› After
[21:17:47] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@InsignificantWeeaboo› shock is guaranteed to be 100% unreliable
[21:18:08] ‹iancudorinmarian› Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[21:18:10] ‹RootRanger› https://i.imgur.com/FtnSo3T.png
[21:18:12] ‹kaempfer13› claim both mafia and town for ian with confidence each
[21:18:13] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› *now
[21:18:33] ‹iancudorinmarian› For the record, I had info
[21:18:39] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› aaaaaaaaaaaaa
[21:18:42] ‹RootRanger› shock is mathematically infinitely unreliable
[21:18:54] ‹RootRanger› i can explain the stats in more detail if you guys want
[21:18:59] ‹iancudorinmarian› Well, I still have, but its with me in the gravw
[21:19:02] ‹iancudorinmarian› Grave
[21:19:11] ‹MasterWalks› if ian voted insig after insigs reveal, its very likely he targeted him just cuz he was blocked
[21:19:11] ‹RootRanger› in the gravy lol
[21:19:50] ‹Calindu› ‹@iancudorinmarian› I don't think you should have revealed that, you still revealed info now
[21:20:11] ‹RootRanger› So
[21:20:17] ‹RootRanger› ian said there was another GA right?
[21:20:20] ‹kaempfer13› what are we gonna do, modkill him?
[21:20:26] ‹RootRanger› Like he said it like it was a true statement, rather than a speculation
[21:20:31] ‹iancudorinmarian› Revealed info by revealing I had info :sillyspin:
[21:21:26] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Oaaaaa
[21:21:33] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› It’s a party of dead civs
[21:21:35] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Welcome
[21:21:38] ‹ddevans96› eh, that doesn't say anything tbh
[21:21:40] ‹ddevans96› it's whatever
[21:22:07] ‹MasterWalks› create a discord channel for dead civs so that when i die, we can all figure out mafia on our own
[21:22:23] ‹ddevans96› I think we should believe that iancu knew of a second GA
[21:22:32] ‹ddevans96› it's either that or a bluff
[21:22:35] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Who died?
[21:22:49] ‹RootRanger› And if there's another GA, it could still be mafia, too :/
[21:22:59] ‹PlayerOa› So much to catch up on :<
[21:23:18] ‹RootRanger› ian died, he was a a *cough fate egg* otyugh
[21:23:33] ‹PlayerOa› Town?
[21:23:37] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Yh
[21:23:39] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Town
[21:23:58] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› You should read up the last few pages. Interesting stuff
[21:24:01] ‹PlayerOa› F
[21:24:08] ‹PlayerOa› Yeah I'm on it
[21:25:53] ‹PlayerOa› N1 death is so boring :ermm:
[21:27:24] ‹Jen-i› A hoi hoi
[21:27:28] ‹RootRanger› heya
[21:27:53] ‹Espithel› ‹@ddevans96› Exactly one elemental and 0 mafia start as a GA.
[21:28:09] ‹Espithel› If there's a second GA, then it can only be via endow, fate egg, or scavenge. We can toss scavenge off the list.
[21:28:24] ‹Calindu› Nope
[21:28:28] ‹Calindu› ‹@Jen-i› Hey Jen
[21:28:33] ‹Espithel› No?
[21:28:35] ‹ddevans96› no, that's GN
[21:28:36] ‹iancudorinmarian› GN =/= GA
[21:28:39] ‹Espithel› That's what the role says.
[21:28:42] ‹Calindu› ‹@Espithel› Yeah, that's for GN
[21:28:44] ‹Espithel› AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[21:28:44] ‹ddevans96› Guardian Angel - ER Heal - Target any player including yourself. They are protected from the Nightkill and any further Offensive Roles that target them this Night. This ability fails if the target was Healed by a Guardian Angel on the previous Night.
[21:29:01] ‹Espithel› STOP USING ALL THE WEIRD FUCKING ABBREVIATIONS THAT LOOK THE EXACT SAME
[21:29:02] ‹Espithel› YOU NONCES
[21:29:11] ‹Espithel› AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YOU'VE MADE ME WRONG THAT'S LITERALLY HITLER
[21:29:13] ‹ddevans96› I tried to just say 'Golden' but no one listened :silly:
[21:29:19] ‹Espithel› STOP MAKING ME SAY THINGS THAT ARE INCORRECT
[21:29:20] ‹Espithel› >:(
[21:29:24] ‹ddevans96› Espi is Hitler confirmed
[21:29:33] ‹ddevans96› vote Nein on him as chancellor
[21:29:48] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› Is that a Secret Hitler reference?
[21:29:55] ‹ddevans96› (vote Ja on me, I'm never fascist :silly:)
[21:30:20] ‹ddevans96› haha, yeah
[21:30:22] ‹ddevans96› best game
[21:30:40] ‹Espithel› Secret hitler is p good.
[21:31:21] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› Theme of Mafia 72 confirmed?
[21:31:37] ‹Espithel› Also, er, can I just point something out?
[21:31:49] ‹ddevans96› if we can figure out how to play Secret Hitler in forums I would be so happy
[21:31:52] ‹Espithel› There's 22 roles, yeah? And 19 players.
[21:31:54] ‹ddevans96› but I don't think it's viable
[21:32:15] ‹RootRanger› Oh I'm 1000% down for Secret Hitler instead of mafia
[21:32:17] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› 22 roles?
[21:32:22] ‹RootRanger› I think it can work actually
[21:32:24] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› Nah man, there aren't 22 roles.
[21:32:28] ‹vagman13› yay ian lynched
[21:32:35] ‹vagman13› happy days ^_^
[21:32:36] ‹iancudorinmarian› ‹@vagman13› :(
[21:32:38] ‹RootRanger› It's a max of 10 players, yeah
[21:32:45] ‹RootRanger› You could run 2 games and split them up
[21:32:51] ‹RootRanger› In terms of timeframe, it works out tho
[21:32:55] ‹iancudorinmarian› Game-losing lynch, I tell you
[21:32:59] ‹Espithel› No, I count 22
[21:33:08] ‹RootRanger› There's a max of 10 rounds, you just have to handle the ja/nein phase efficiently
[21:33:21] ‹Calindu› ‹@Espithel› I count 23
[21:33:24] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› ‹@Espithel› Did you count Warden 3 times?
[21:33:37] ‹Espithel› Golden Nymph, Psion, Dragonfly, FFQ, Warden, Toadfish, Oty, Flayer, Warden, Angel, Grab-
[21:33:39] ‹Espithel› 21 roles
[21:33:45] ‹RootRanger› If you do 1 day for each ja/nein, and 1 day for each government, you can have it done in like ~30 days
[21:33:53] ‹Calindu› Oh, I counted warden 3 times
[21:33:55] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› Shrieker is not a role.
[21:34:08] ‹Calindu› And I also counted shrieker
[21:34:15] ‹Espithel› graboid, seraph, phoenix, anubis, green nymph, amber nymph, crusader, vulture, fate egg
[21:34:29] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› 20 roles.
[21:35:01] ‹Espithel› Oh, and squid and ghost
[21:35:02] ‹ddevans96› yeah, that might actually work out tbh
[21:35:05] ‹kaempfer13› if ian assumed a second ga was around for reasons with his role refer to my post
[21:35:17] ‹Espithel› And I counted warden twi
[21:35:19] ‹Espithel› OH FFS
[21:35:21] ‹Espithel› SUBMACHINE
[21:35:26] ‹Espithel› DON'T PUT A ROLE 3 TIMES
[21:35:28] ‹Espithel› YOU LITLE SHIT
[21:36:06] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› I am merely the host. The layout and roles were given to me by Linkcat. :whistling:
[21:36:35] ‹Espithel› THE POINT IS, THERE ARE MORE ROLES THAN THERE ARE PLAYERS - EVEN IF THERE WERE NO DUPLICATES, THERE'S SOME ROLES NOT IN THE GAME
[21:36:48] ‹Espithel› AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[21:36:55] ‹Espithel› Okay.
[21:36:55] ‹ddevans96› Link did it last game too, tbf
[21:36:58] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
[21:37:05] ‹ddevans96› CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
[21:37:08] • Espithel coughs.
[21:37:16] ‹Espithel› And there's clearly some duplicates.
[21:37:26] ‹Espithel› So I'd wager around 1-3 roles aren't in the game.
[21:37:34] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Your face is a duplicate
[21:37:50] ‹Espithel› I actually really hate that there's duplicates
[21:37:56] ‹Espithel› "I'm a guardian angel!"
[21:38:02] ‹Espithel› \\"I'm also a guardian angel!"
[21:38:09] ‹Espithel› And one claim doesn't counter the other
[21:38:11] ‹Espithel› ew
[21:38:29] ‹Calindu› Yeah, I don't like duplicates either tbh
[21:38:54] ‹Espithel› Reason I'm pointing this out is I'm noticing a mass roleclaim, yeah?
[21:39:11] ‹Espithel› What if the abilities we want to claim aren't in the game?
[21:39:16] ‹Espithel› What if there's no psion, for instance?
[21:39:40] • Espithel coughs.
[21:39:48] ‹Espithel› Sorry for screaming at you Subbles. Please forgive. -w-
[21:39:51] ‹RootRanger› does anyone remember when people would have only primary roles and the roles would be d ifferent for mafia and civs
[21:40:01] ‹RootRanger› so you could just mass roleclaim and anyone who didn't have a duplicate role was guaranteed civ
[21:40:19] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Yh
[21:40:20] ‹Espithel› Those were the days
[21:40:25] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[21:40:52] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[21:46:04] ‹ddevans96› ‹@InsignificantWeeaboo› yes?
[21:47:16] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[21:47:20] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› ^
[21:47:35] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Arsenal or chelsea tonight
[21:48:20] ‹Mobian› Wait, so forum chat is now disallowed??
[21:48:49] ‹Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› ‹@Mobian› Only forum chat PMs.
[21:48:53] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Mobian› Think he means chat PMs
[21:49:52] ‹Mobian› ‹@Guest-MindFlayer-1ea56› ah, thanks for clarifying
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290108#msg1290108
« Reply #517 on: May 29, 2019, 09:30:49 pm »
I request investigative roles on me tonight. I request Warden, Flayer, and Squid DO NOT target me tonight.

We're not getting anywhere as long as I'm alive and unchecked - you'll just focus the lynch on me and we won't be able to discuss anything else. If you think I'm mafia, prove it.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290109#msg1290109
« Reply #518 on: May 29, 2019, 10:19:54 pm »
Jesus, what a circus that was. Glad I made that rule, sad deadline is at a bad time for me. Would like someone to make a rundown of the vote changes and which ones were just to extend. I probably would have kept my vote on dd again (lol) because of the other two candidates, Insig is a town read and iancu claiming he got roleblocked in the thread doesn't make sense as mafia. I might have gone for a Mobian lynch.

If iancu was Fate Egg then all of his roles would have been revealed like Insig's were last game.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290111#msg1290111
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290112#msg1290112
« Reply #520 on: May 29, 2019, 10:34:40 pm »
Three empty spoilers. Illuminati confirmed.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290113#msg1290113
« Reply #521 on: May 29, 2019, 11:26:57 pm »
Alright, here is how I would like roles to be used tonight. Listen or don't, but i strongly believe it is a good play.

Ward- Target Espi PLEASE. He is mafia and i have reason to believe he may be a FFQ. Do NOT target kaempf

Psion- Target shock. If you know his role, you know how truthful his info dump will be. If you have already targeted him, target Linkcat. He is making confident decisions and i would like to know if that confidence is info gained or scum read gained. but shock has priority here.

FFQ- do whatever you want but you are strongest in the beginning of the game imo. Here soon, it may be a good idea to info dump what your fireflys have told you.

Flayer- Target kaempf. I dont think he is GN and i would like him stalled until he figure out a bit more about him.

GoldenNymph- I would also like you to target kaempf. Lets flush all the info we can out of him. He explained himself and pretty well but there is still something off about him. Im going to be brutally honest with you tho, if mafia has even the slightest hint that they know who you are, you will probably die tonight. You would be dumb to not use your ability N0 and now your ability is usable again this night.

Green Nymph- Target literally anybody who has not voted yet. Hitting graboid would be like hitting a treasure chest and will hide them even longer.

Crusader- Target dd. Anubis is an underrated skill and will help tremendously if dd gets NK'd.

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290116#msg1290116
« Reply #522 on: May 29, 2019, 11:43:17 pm »
Okay crusader, dont target anubis. i changed my mind there. everything else still stands
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290121#msg1290121
« Reply #523 on: May 30, 2019, 01:23:37 am »
What a fascinating thing to read.

dd's claim was bad, if he dies then we know what role he is. It's easy to just say "I have not targeted anyone yet" and keep hiding role in case you live.

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290122#msg1290122
« Reply #524 on: May 30, 2019, 01:31:30 am »
I'll note quickly that due to what happened, Shock is currently a heavy town lean for me

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290123#msg1290123
« Reply #525 on: May 30, 2019, 01:45:15 am »
'in case you live'

I wasn't going to live without claiming. Like three different people all asked me to claim if I wanted to live.

'if he dies'

The point was to not die.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290124#msg1290124
« Reply #526 on: May 30, 2019, 02:01:32 am »
Target Espi PLEASE. He is mafia and i have reason to believe he may be a FFQ.

Ooooooooooooooooooh.

A third firefly queen?

Please tell me why you think that's the case.

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290126#msg1290126
« Reply #527 on: May 30, 2019, 02:04:29 am »
Because i think a mafia has FFQ. I also think you are mafia. So by process of elimination, i have deduced that you must have FFQ.
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