Poll

Who played the best mafia?

iancudorinmarian
0 (0%)
Linkcat
9 (15.5%)
PlayerOa
0 (0%)
JonathanCrazyJ
0 (0%)
immortal_feud
0 (0%)
kaempfer13
9 (15.5%)
ddevans96
8 (13.8%)
dawn to dusk
0 (0%)
InsignificantWeeaboo
0 (0%)
Espithel
4 (6.9%)
MasterWalks
1 (1.7%)
Mobian
1 (1.7%)
mathman101
0 (0%)
RootRanger
6 (10.3%)
shockcannon
6 (10.3%)
Ginyu
9 (15.5%)
Calindu
5 (8.6%)
moehrpi
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 19

Voting closed: June 24, 2019, 11:12:55 am

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290048#msg1290048
« Reply #468 on: May 29, 2019, 12:55:42 pm »
Spoiler for I didn't forget to post this I swear:
[2019-05-29 11:37:07] ddevans96: if it's mafia Oty, they went for a risky play
[2019-05-29 11:37:15] ddevans96: dick-on-table play, honestly
[2019-05-29 11:37:34] ddevans96: I'd respect it if that were the case
[2019-05-29 11:37:35] dawn_to_dusk: And then you have Mafia Fate Egg
[2019-05-29 11:37:48] ddevans96: I hope it's IW Egg
[2019-05-29 11:37:53] ddevans96: regardless of whether he's mafia or not
[2019-05-29 11:37:56] MasterWalks: in the game as a whole, before this day, yea i might say you. Only for O R C H ES T R A T I N G tho
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[2019-05-29 11:38:09] MasterWalks: actually, fate egg oty makes sense
[2019-05-29 11:38:20] dawn_to_dusk: Also got FFQ N0
[2019-05-29 11:38:25] MasterWalks: IW got fate egg last game
[2019-05-29 11:38:26] dawn_to_dusk: Targeted someone who used their ability
[2019-05-29 11:38:34] MasterWalks: i understand he could roll again tho
[2019-05-29 11:38:39] dawn_to_dusk: Who then caught the FF N1
[2019-05-29 11:38:57] dawn_to_dusk: Either ian or the other person who I can't remember
[2019-05-29 11:39:04] MasterWalks: i caught one
[2019-05-29 11:39:27] InsignificantWeeaboo: e g g
[2019-05-29 11:39:33] ddevans96: ugh, I need to build decks for 12 Lives, but I just don't feel like it
[2019-05-29 11:39:35] ddevans96: E G G M A N
[2019-05-29 11:39:47] dawn_to_dusk: Ahhh
[2019-05-29 11:40:07] dawn_to_dusk: So if you used ability N0 then I'm happy with saying that Oty was Town Egg who voted dd D1
[2019-05-29 11:40:27] dawn_to_dusk: Though I want to see how many people catch Fireflies N2
[2019-05-29 11:40:45] ddevans96: same
[2019-05-29 11:41:17] MasterWalks: I think we need to stop revealing firefly catches
[2019-05-29 11:42:10] MasterWalks: Linkcat, InsignificantWeeaboo, Calindu, iancudorinmarian
[2019-05-29 11:42:19] MasterWalks: these are the people who voted DD night 1
[2019-05-29 11:42:22] MasterWalks: day1*
[2019-05-29 11:42:40] dawn_to_dusk: Insig claims Warden, obviously
[2019-05-29 11:42:44] MasterWalks: oh and mobian
[2019-05-29 11:43:41] MasterWalks: I dont think ian would, since he caught firefly, if he not lying. Linkcat? maybe possibly. Cal? i dunno cal well enough.
[2019-05-29 11:44:03] MasterWalks: I doubt mobian did. He wants to play super duper passively
[2019-05-29 11:44:28] dawn_to_dusk: Ian claims an important role
[2019-05-29 11:44:41] dawn_to_dusk: So either mafia Oty (which as we've said, makes no sense)
[2019-05-29 11:44:53] MasterWalks: an important role he hasnt used yet
[2019-05-29 11:45:02] dawn_to_dusk: Mafia Fate Egg (Which doesn't make much sense either)
[2019-05-29 11:45:09] MasterWalks: if hes psion or GN he wouldve used it
[2019-05-29 11:45:13] dawn_to_dusk: Or irrelevant to this situation
[2019-05-29 11:45:33] ddevans96: it could also be someone who didn't vote for me - or finish with their vote on me, to be clear
[2019-05-29 11:45:53] ddevans96: bc they could have been 'meh' on me, but when I survived the lynch and jcj flipped town, it aroused their suspicions
[2019-05-29 11:46:06] MasterWalks: ian is starting to sketch me now that i type it out.
[2019-05-29 11:46:28] ddevans96: I wouldn't narrow Oty to just the people who voted for me, is basically what I'm saying
[2019-05-29 11:46:34] dawn_to_dusk: Didn't you hear
[2019-05-29 11:46:44] dawn_to_dusk: Shock mistyped every time he said Ian and Mafia in the same sentence
[2019-05-29 11:47:09] ddevans96: shockcannon, more like loosecannon
[2019-05-29 11:47:14] ddevans96: goteem
[2019-05-29 11:47:34] ddevans96: anyways - I think we learn more about iancu from shock's info dump
[2019-05-29 11:47:36] MasterWalks: Ok hear me out
[2019-05-29 11:47:42] MasterWalks: Espithel is oty
[2019-05-29 11:47:51] ddevans96: bc that's his most consistent thing (I feel like his last post is a meme tbh)
[2019-05-29 11:48:07] ddevans96: when we learn whether or not shock has anything going for him, we learn more about iancu
[2019-05-29 11:48:09] MasterWalks: Wait nvm
[2019-05-29 11:48:18] ddevans96: no, keep going
[2019-05-29 11:48:23] ddevans96: even if it's bunk I'm curious
[2019-05-29 11:48:55] MasterWalks: its bunk because that would mean he was blocked, which he said he was not.
[2019-05-29 11:48:59] dawn_to_dusk: Btw I don't think Kaempf is town atm
[2019-05-29 11:49:08] ddevans96: oh, fair
[2019-05-29 11:49:10] MasterWalks: I guess he could lie, but dunno why lying about that would help
[2019-05-29 11:49:33] dawn_to_dusk: Sorry Link
[2019-05-29 11:50:25] MasterWalks: What makes you think kaempf is maf?
[2019-05-29 11:50:25] ddevans96: wait, you do or don't think kaempfer is town?
[2019-05-29 11:50:28] shockcannon: you mean mafia?
[2019-05-29 11:50:34] ddevans96: bc Link wants kaempfer lynched
[2019-05-29 11:51:11] dawn_to_dusk: Oh mb
[2019-05-29 11:51:14] dawn_to_dusk: I mean't do
[2019-05-29 11:51:16] dawn_to_dusk: Meant
[2019-05-29 11:51:19] dawn_to_dusk: Whatever
[2019-05-29 11:51:23] dawn_to_dusk: Kaempf is town in my eyes
[2019-05-29 11:51:25] ddevans96: oh aight
[2019-05-29 11:51:50] MasterWalks: what role could shock have that would let him info dump day3?
[2019-05-29 11:51:53] MasterWalks: FFQ?
[2019-05-29 11:52:27] MasterWalks: GN?
[2019-05-29 11:52:29] shockcannon: my role doesn't matter for half of the info dump
[2019-05-29 11:52:36] MasterWalks: He could target 3 people in that time with GN
[2019-05-29 11:52:39] dawn_to_dusk: Flayer obv
[2019-05-29 11:52:51] Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1: Only thing you need is good maf skills
[2019-05-29 11:52:58] dawn_to_dusk: GN is EoR
[2019-05-29 11:53:05] shockcannon: yeah i'm flayer
[2019-05-29 11:53:07] ddevans96: shock just thinks he's way ahead of everyone else
[2019-05-29 11:53:09] shockcannon: said it like 3 times
[2019-05-29 11:53:11] dawn_to_dusk: So 2 people
[2019-05-29 11:53:34] dawn_to_dusk: Lets lynch ian and see how valid Shock's info is before he releases it
[2019-05-29 11:53:37] dawn_to_dusk: Lul
[2019-05-29 11:53:44] MasterWalks: wait, they nerfed GN hard this game then
[2019-05-29 11:53:50] ddevans96: I mean I'd be down
[2019-05-29 11:53:55] ddevans96: it'd be hilarious either way
[2019-05-29 11:53:57] dawn_to_dusk: It was the same as last game
[2019-05-29 11:53:57] MasterWalks: No protect and only EoR lol.
[2019-05-29 11:54:26] Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1: ‹@dawn_to_dusk› last game was ER
[2019-05-29 11:54:50] MasterWalks: oh wow, didnt realize its EoR both games
[2019-05-29 11:54:59] dawn_to_dusk: ‹@Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Nope
[2019-05-29 11:55:09] dawn_to_dusk: EoR, can't be protected
[2019-05-29 11:55:10] Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1: ‹@dawn_to_dusk› blame Walker
[2019-05-29 11:55:13] dawn_to_dusk: Same as this game
[2019-05-29 11:55:52] MasterWalks: ‹@Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Me? Walks*
[2019-05-29 11:56:10] dawn_to_dusk: Texas Ranger
[2019-05-29 11:56:30] MasterWalks: its Walks for a reason. Not Walker, i aint no old person stand up wheelchair
[2019-05-29 11:56:53] dawn_to_dusk: You don't want to be Chuck Norris?
[2019-05-29 11:57:17] MasterWalks: B O W F L E X
[2019-05-29 11:57:33] MasterWalks: gtg, be back later. Someone post log
[2019-05-29 11:57:38] Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1: ‹@MasterWalks› walks X master = walker
[2019-05-29 11:57:56] Vineroz: malks
[2019-05-29 11:58:13] dawn_to_dusk: I'm posting log pt1
[2019-05-29 11:58:20] dawn_to_dusk: Along with thoughts
[2019-05-29 11:58:24] dawn_to_dusk: Log pt2 is boring

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290049#msg1290049
« Reply #469 on: May 29, 2019, 12:56:36 pm »
Spoiler for Pt 3: This time with Shock:
[2019-05-29 11:58:34] shockcannon: honestly does anyone even read these logs
[2019-05-29 11:58:35] Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1: Are you
[2019-05-29 11:58:54] Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1: What name are you using for log
[2019-05-29 11:58:57] Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1: base*
[2019-05-29 11:58:59] Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1: Not name
[2019-05-29 11:59:37] dawn_to_dusk: I like tl;drs for them
[2019-05-29 11:59:55] shockcannon: if ddevans doesn't die today he's mafia
[2019-05-29 12:00:19] shockcannon: hot take
[2019-05-29 12:00:22] shockcannon: only townies in chat right now
[2019-05-29 12:01:40] Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1: I’m not a townie
[2019-05-29 12:02:12] dawn_to_dusk: Vine is a total scum read
[2019-05-29 12:02:37] dawn_to_dusk: I'll post all chat logs btw don't worry
[2019-05-29 12:02:37] InsignificantWeeaboo:
(5d9) 7 + 6 + 3 + 7 + 5 = 28 ...
[2019-05-29 12:03:01] Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1: ‹@dawn_to_dusk› btw whenever you type down, type dawn instead
[2019-05-29 12:07:24] dawn_to_dusk: Oh no
[2019-05-29 12:07:47] dawn_to_dusk: Lets get dawn to basics
[2019-05-29 12:07:48] dawn_to_dusk: I hate this
[2019-05-29 12:08:33] ddevans96: [2019-05-28 19:59:55] ‹shockcannon› if ddevans doesn't die today he's mafia < so let's say I'm mafia, and the other mafia helped me live last night
[2019-05-29 12:09:25] ddevans96: what's the smart amount they should be helping me now?
[2019-05-29 12:09:58] ddevans96: bc if I live today, get lynched tomorrow, and I flip mafia, any mafia who voted on my self-pres target immediately comes under suspicion
[2019-05-29 12:10:34] ddevans96: those sentences are trainwrecks, I'm hangry, but you should get the jist
[2019-05-29 12:10:45] ddevans96: would be dumb for mafia to go all-in on saving me two days in a row
[2019-05-29 12:11:10] ddevans96: smart play for mafia tonight, if I was mafia, would be to just let me die, and have me throw as much chaos as possible on the way out
[2019-05-29 12:12:49] ddevans96: the only exception to that is if I have a role that's valuable to mafia. do you think that's the case
[2019-05-29 12:12:51] ddevans96: ?*
[2019-05-29 12:13:19] shockcannon: there's a lot of possibilities
[2019-05-29 12:13:43] ddevans96: do I have a role so valuable to mafia that my team would keep me alive at all costs, even to the point of setting themselves up for great scrutiny later in the game?
[2019-05-29 12:13:48] ddevans96: sure, but how many are likely?
[2019-05-29 12:15:26] ddevans96: 'if dd doesn't die today, he's mafia' is missing a 'because'
[2019-05-29 12:16:11] shockcannon: ok
[2019-05-29 12:16:16] shockcannon: I'm doing some thinking
[2019-05-29 12:16:23] shockcannon: there's basically two possible sets of mafia
[2019-05-29 12:16:47] ddevans96: SIGNS OF INTELLIGENT LIFE DISCOVERED
[2019-05-29 12:16:48] shockcannon: I'm checking my bases because while I think one option is like 90% correct, i'm not going to ignore the 10% that it's incorrect
[2019-05-29 12:16:52] ddevans96: [ALARM]
[2019-05-29 12:17:11] shockcannon: regardless
[2019-05-29 12:17:16] shockcannon: if ian turns out to be town
[2019-05-29 12:17:27] shockcannon: then I still know who at least 2 mafia are
[2019-05-29 12:17:37] shockcannon: so it works out regardless
[2019-05-29 12:17:55] ddevans96: [ALARM CONTINUES]
[2019-05-29 12:18:02] AveragePotato: The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from dawn to dusk in Forum Games. There is no spit in this post!
[2019-05-29 12:20:01] AveragePotato: The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from Ginyu in Forum Games. It's okay, I guess.
[2019-05-29 12:20:33] dawn_to_dusk: Lmao Gin
[2019-05-29 12:21:17] ddevans96: if nothing else, it bears noting that you both submitted a pretty extensive analysis of the situation close to each other
[2019-05-29 12:21:45] ddevans96: means people are coming to similar conclusions
[2019-05-29 12:23:42] Vineroz: yikes
[2019-05-29 12:24:02] AveragePotato: The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from mathman101 in Forum Games. Also, you look like you need some coffee.
[2019-05-29 12:24:53] dawn_to_dusk: I feel like Fate Egg Otyugh is most likely, but then you're playing with probabilities
[2019-05-29 12:25:16] Ginyu: You always play with probabilities in mafia.
[2019-05-29 12:25:17] shockcannon: Mobian (2) - Iancudorinmarian, mathman101 iancudorinmarian (2) - Espithel, Mobian
[2019-05-29 12:25:25] shockcannon: this greatly intrigues me
[2019-05-29 12:25:44] ddevans96: [ALARM INTENSIFIES]
[2019-05-29 12:26:01] AveragePotato: The latest forum post is Re: Polls for Mafia 71 from mathman101 in Off-Topic Discussions. You got 30 minutes.
[2019-05-29 12:27:07] ddevans96: I have to go out for a bit. someone else maintain the alarm while I'm gone
[2019-05-29 12:30:32] shockcannon: i almost had an epiphany
[2019-05-29 12:30:36] shockcannon: but logic shot down that theory
[2019-05-29 12:31:13] shockcannon: I keep looking for ways that ian can be town
[2019-05-29 12:31:18] shockcannon: and I can't find it\
[2019-05-29 12:32:34] MasterWalks: what is it that make you soooo sure he is maf
[2019-05-29 12:32:42] MasterWalks: are you GN/
[2019-05-29 12:33:26] shockcannon: well it's possible ian is town
[2019-05-29 12:33:36] shockcannon: but i'm quite certain he's lying about being blocked
[2019-05-29 12:35:14] MasterWalks: which means he is lying about the FireFly
[2019-05-29 12:36:01] AveragePotato: The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from shockcannon in Forum Games. Imagination at work.
[2019-05-29 12:36:06] shockcannon: if he's not then firefly should come out
[2019-05-29 12:37:03] MasterWalks: its not like it would be a huge mafia target to kill ffq. although they killed seraph so who knows what they are thinking
[2019-05-29 12:37:19] MasterWalks: im inclined to believe mafia does not have a good intel role
[2019-05-29 12:37:41] shockcannon: i'm inclined to believe they do
[2019-05-29 12:37:57] MasterWalks: so the Oa kill was a front?
[2019-05-29 12:38:01] AveragePotato: The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from Ginyu in Forum Games. Did somebody mention this post already?
[2019-05-29 12:40:19] shockcannon: we really need like 3 people to roleclaim and say what they did
[2019-05-29 12:40:31] shockcannon: if that happens things will become much much easier
[2019-05-29 12:41:32] MasterWalks: well obv but that helps maf way too much
[2019-05-29 12:42:58] shockcannon: alright
[2019-05-29 12:43:00] shockcannon: i'm making a post
[2019-05-29 12:43:03] shockcannon: its going to be a little long
[2019-05-29 12:43:12] MasterWalks: info dump post?
[2019-05-29 12:43:30] dawn_to_dusk: Right now might not be the best time for info claim, but next day phase could be nice
[2019-05-29 12:43:42] MasterWalks: no
[2019-05-29 12:43:45] MasterWalks: let him do it
[2019-05-29 12:44:00] MasterWalks: i dont think he really has all that concrete of info
[2019-05-29 12:47:00] dawn_to_dusk: I mean claims from like, FFQ and stuff
[2019-05-29 12:47:52] MasterWalks: I think ffq wouldnt be all that bad. I hope he reveals this scum oty
[2019-05-29 12:48:24] MasterWalks: as long as he doesnt claim GN, Psion, or vulture we should be aight
[2019-05-29 12:49:44] shockcannon: this isn't my info dump
[2019-05-29 12:57:28] InsignificantWeeaboo:
(5d9) 6 + 5 + 2 + 6 + 6 = 25 ...
[2019-05-29 13:01:49] shockcannon: posted
[2019-05-29 13:02:01] AveragePotato: The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from shockcannon in Forum Games. The post that refreshes.
[2019-05-29 13:06:22] MasterWalks: ‹@shockcannon› can i use "i speedbuilt this post" as my signature?
[2019-05-29 13:08:01] AveragePotato: The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from MasterWalks in Forum Games. Every single time, someone has to go and say something like this.
[2019-05-29 13:08:34] shockcannon: idc
[2019-05-29 13:08:34] dawn_to_dusk: ‹@shockcannon› You're aware that GN is EoR, and can't be protected, right?
[2019-05-29 13:08:45] shockcannon: yep
[2019-05-29 13:08:54] dawn_to_dusk: So can't use ability N3, and couldn't N1 either
[2019-05-29 13:08:55] dawn_to_dusk: Alright
[2019-05-29 13:09:28] shockcannon: assuming GN isn't blocked GN should have 2 known primary roles by day 3
[2019-05-29 13:09:31] MasterWalks: I dont see GN living past N3 tbh
[2019-05-29 13:09:40] shockcannon: also assuming we lynch every day and mafia kills every night
[2019-05-29 13:09:46] shockcannon: 2 people die every time GN can find 1 person
[2019-05-29 13:09:56] shockcannon: the odds of GN having useful info goes down as time goes on
[2019-05-29 13:10:28] shockcannon: so I have no problem at all with role revealing next day phase
[2019-05-29 13:10:34] shockcannon: even if that puts GN at greater risk
[2019-05-29 13:11:20] shockcannon: the issue is if GN doesn't adapt gameplay after that point
[2019-05-29 13:11:21] MasterWalks: ‹@Linkcat› ‹@ddevans96› Pick is post apart
[2019-05-29 13:11:31] shockcannon: and just stays silent and hopes not to die
[2019-05-29 13:11:55] MasterWalks: ‹@shockcannon› Wait, so you want GN to roleclaim D3 and die N3?
[2019-05-29 13:12:09] shockcannon: no
[2019-05-29 13:12:13] MasterWalks: because that will be mafia's sole target if Gn reveals
[2019-05-29 13:12:15] shockcannon: but i wouldn't be opposed to it either
[2019-05-29 13:12:19] shockcannon: imo
[2019-05-29 13:12:34] shockcannon: if GN ever knows the identity of 3 other alive players they should reveal no matter what
[2019-05-29 13:12:39] shockcannon: with themselves
[2019-05-29 13:12:44] shockcannon: that would instantly confirm 4 people
[2019-05-29 13:12:51] shockcannon: we should be able to win off that
[2019-05-29 13:13:00] MasterWalks: You want GN to name drop townies too?
[2019-05-29 13:13:06] MasterWalks: thats a terrible idea
[2019-05-29 13:13:09] shockcannon: yes
[2019-05-29 13:13:13] shockcannon: no its not
[2019-05-29 13:13:17] shockcannon: mafia already knows all the townies
[2019-05-29 13:13:22] shockcannon: we need townies to know the townies
[2019-05-29 13:13:31] shockcannon: i'm actually going to post that
[2019-05-29 13:14:37] MasterWalks: is my math wrong or if GN reveals their targets next day, they will only have 2 targeted people? Since GN is EoR i guess
[2019-05-29 13:15:59] shockcannon: i think GN should probably wait until day 5
[2019-05-29 13:16:13] shockcannon: assuming all their targets remained alive on day 5
[2019-05-29 13:16:24] MasterWalks: I still dont think they will survive past N3.
[2019-05-29 13:16:43] MasterWalks: If Psion reveals Oty, then that will be some good info

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290050#msg1290050
« Reply #470 on: May 29, 2019, 01:13:42 pm »
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Move to kaempfer with me if you're town, dd.
Hold on I can play this game too

Move to [insert personal scumread here] with me if you're town, Link

Not a game, it's just phrasing I picked up from Mafia Universe.

This talk of orchestrating is silly. The only way to orchestrate a lynch is through the use of PMs, so with PMs banned it would have to be a mafia telling his team to vote right after them, which is an insanely bad play. Anything else is just pushing a lynch like normal. Of course dd is going to push a lynch on whoever he can Day 1, he's trying not to die. He happened to get some steam on his scumread today, but he'll take anyone if they end up with more votes than him. That's how you're supposed to play.

[10:27:52] ‹MasterWalks› hes going to cherry pick everyone's comments about him and dissect them until they are irrelevant like he has been doing.

This is also what you're supposed to do. It's called engaging with points.

Mafia will prioritize Warding information roles, so they really don't have much reason to Ward dd.

[11:21:11] ‹MasterWalks› @Linkcat
[11:21:37] ‹MasterWalks› Whats your read on kaempf after his response? Still getting scum?

His response isn't relevant to my read.

I agree GN should claim if they get three living checks.

Otyugh makes sense as Fate Egg town, Fate Egg mafia, or Otyugh town.

As for shock's plan, revealing is a terrible idea. The more information the mafia has, the easier it is for them to control the game. Public information does not help town as much as you think it does. We'd basically be handing over the game on a silver platter.

Since apparently nobody wants to help me lynch my actual scumread, I'll have to put my vote on my neutral read dd to protect my town read Insig.

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290060#msg1290060
« Reply #471 on: May 29, 2019, 05:44:46 pm »
Lynching me is probably the worst play you could make. I'm clearly a town lean, and lynching me is exactly what mafia wants. They're laughing in their castle right now, I guarantee it.

Regardless, I don't think I can O R C H E S T R A T E my survival another night, so here's a checklist:

1) Pressure shock immediately. I supported his gambit thinking he might be GN - mafia has zero reason to NK the village idiot, so that's actually phenomenal cover, and a few little things lined up. Given the nature of his plan, I'm beginning to think otherwise. Could still be town Psion, but I have a neutral read now and he's probably outlived his usefulness.

2) Speaking of shock's plan, I advise against it. If it's not obvious, my post last night wasn't serious.

3) Go through the thread and find every instance of someone saying 'one/two of X is mafia/town' - parse through those, find some common threads, and start lynching them. Additionally, add 'one of Link/MW/kae' to that pile. Additionally, pay attention to the people who voted for me in both rounds (whether that be final vote or otherwise) - that's also a pile you need to look at.

Just be aware that the person in the most of these piles could still be town. Line all of that information up with your current reads. You'll start getting somewhere.

4) Try not to lynch another person for playing like town should. If you don't understand how town should play, talk to Link or Root, and here's a really neat guide for that (and everything else in this game).
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290061#msg1290061
« Reply #472 on: May 29, 2019, 05:58:12 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290062#msg1290062
« Reply #473 on: May 29, 2019, 06:02:19 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290063#msg1290063
« Reply #474 on: May 29, 2019, 06:06:41 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290064#msg1290064
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290065#msg1290065
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290066#msg1290066
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290067#msg1290067
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1290068#msg1290068
« Reply #479 on: May 29, 2019, 06:15:58 pm »
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