Poll

Who played the best mafia?

iancudorinmarian
0 (0%)
Linkcat
9 (15.5%)
PlayerOa
0 (0%)
JonathanCrazyJ
0 (0%)
immortal_feud
0 (0%)
kaempfer13
9 (15.5%)
ddevans96
8 (13.8%)
dawn to dusk
0 (0%)
InsignificantWeeaboo
0 (0%)
Espithel
4 (6.9%)
MasterWalks
1 (1.7%)
Mobian
1 (1.7%)
mathman101
0 (0%)
RootRanger
6 (10.3%)
shockcannon
6 (10.3%)
Ginyu
9 (15.5%)
Calindu
5 (8.6%)
moehrpi
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 19

Voting closed: June 24, 2019, 11:12:55 am

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289889#msg1289889
« Reply #360 on: May 27, 2019, 07:33:35 pm »
Welp.

While I wait for people to start shit:

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feel like espithel is mafia
feel like link and shock are town

C'mon, this is mafia. That's a really threadbare analysis. Would you mind elaborating on it?

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289891#msg1289891
« Reply #361 on: May 27, 2019, 07:48:36 pm »
immortal feud (1) - Espithel
shockcannon (1) - RootRanger

ian's ability failed a second time. If it had only failed once, I'd have attributed it to something like Seraph/Anubis, but having failed twice, it looks like someone is actively roleblocking him.

And it wouldn't make sense for a civ to be roleblocking in the early nights of the game.

shock was aggressive toward ian and even outright said he has a roleblocking ability. I don't think the fact that "he always plays like this" is a valid excuse for acting how a mafia would. If we have no better leads, this is my vote.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289892#msg1289892
« Reply #362 on: May 27, 2019, 07:58:06 pm »
For what it's worth, shock did say he didn't target iancu on n0 - whether you want to believe shock or not is obviously up for debate, I just figure that should be restated.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289893#msg1289893
« Reply #363 on: May 27, 2019, 08:01:17 pm »
immortal feud (1) - Espithel
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A guy who is not usually awkward is being awkward. He claims its because he is new to the mafia game, but mafia is not all that hard to understand if you are Civ. -Pretty much a sum of what link said in chat.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289894#msg1289894
« Reply #364 on: May 27, 2019, 08:05:55 pm »
Spoiler for Yet another chat log:
[19:40:17] ‹Linkcat› Why am I awake right now.
[19:41:23] ‹ddevans96› ‹@Linkcat› how much did you sleep?
[19:41:36] ‹Linkcat› 8 hours
[19:42:34] ‹Linkcat› Someone post what iancu said in the thread.
[19:44:52] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
(5d9) 2 + 4 + 9 + 6 + 9 = 30 ...
[19:51:16] ‹Guest-Condor-1ea56› 10 minutes left.
[19:51:16] ‹ddevans96› ‹@Linkcat› you slept 8 hours and you're wondering why you're awake at...almost noon?
[19:51:20] ‹ddevans96› I mean relatable, but
[19:52:02] ‹AveragePotato› The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from Submachine in Forum Games. Imagination at work.
[19:52:45] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› >mafia lynches a mafia
[19:54:18] ‹ddevans96› what if the mafia is me/Espi/MW/one other
[19:54:30] ‹ddevans96› how much would we have wrinkled brained this early game
[19:57:53] ‹Espithel› That would be beautiful.
[19:58:50] ‹Linkcat› If I'm the one other then someone is going to have an aneurysm.
[19:59:04] ‹Guest-Condor-1ea56› The last member is rob77dp.
[19:59:06] ‹Espithel› I would cum.
[20:00:00] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35›
(4d19) 15 + 10 + 11 + 12 = 48 ...?
[20:00:33] ‹MasterWalks›
(2d30) 27 + 2 = 29 ...
[20:02:01] ‹AveragePotato› The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from Submachine in Forum Games. I remember the days before this post...
[20:02:18] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› LOL
[20:03:23] ‹iancudorinmarian› Huh
[20:03:54] ‹iancudorinmarian› Roleblocked again *sigh*
[20:04:34] ‹iancudorinmarian› If any of you psion finds the mind flayer, lynch them immediately
[20:06:20] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
(5d9) 3 + 5 + 4 + 4 + 2 = 18 ...
[20:07:01] ‹Espithel› ‹@iancudorinmarian› Did you target the same person as last night?
[20:07:10] ‹iancudorinmarian› No
[20:07:17] ‹Espithel› Different person?
[20:07:21] ‹Espithel› Hmm.
[20:07:27] ‹Espithel› That makes the graboid unlikely.
[20:07:30] ‹Guest-Condor-1ea56› Please hold on tight until I send out night action results.
[20:07:44] ‹Guest-Condor-1ea56› They will come. :)
[20:07:57] ‹iancudorinmarian› I made sure to target someone unexpected and non-graboid
[20:08:00] ‹ddevans96› W A I T
[20:08:16] ‹iancudorinmarian› Both the people I targeted weren't graboid
[20:09:14] ‹RootRanger› So the options include
[20:09:25] ‹MasterWalks› Im starting to think its Ward
[20:09:27] ‹RootRanger› Being roleblocked by a mafia or a bad civ
[20:09:30] ‹MasterWalks› thats blocking you
[20:09:36] ‹RootRanger› Being wardened by a civ who thinks he knows what he's doing but doesn't
[20:09:37] ‹Linkcat› Hey Root.
[20:09:58] ‹MasterWalks› i think its mafia using ward on him
[20:10:00] ‹RootRanger› Hitting Anubis or Seraph
[20:10:01] ‹AveragePotato› The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from MasterWalks in Forum Games. Is this the beginning of the end, or just the end of the beginning?
[20:10:04] ‹MasterWalks› or shock is being an ass
[20:10:13] ‹RootRanger› Or ian is mafia lying to get a roleblocking role lynched
[20:10:14] ‹iancudorinmarian› I did not target Oa
[20:10:20] ‹RootRanger› Could absolutely be shock roleblocking ian twice
[20:10:34] ‹iancudorinmarian› Sure, I could be lying
[20:10:40] ‹RootRanger› It might be that mafia is wardening another mafia
[20:10:52] ‹RootRanger› To protect against GN
[20:10:59] ‹iancudorinmarian› But getting roleblock killed isnt useful if I am mafia
[20:11:10] ‹RootRanger› I wouldn't assume roleblock if an ability fails once, but twice against separate people is unlikely
[20:11:27] ‹RootRanger› If mafia has a Psion
[20:11:30] ‹RootRanger› Also hi linkcat
[20:11:39] ‹iancudorinmarian› I dont think shock is flayer
[20:11:48] ‹RootRanger› If mafia has a Psion and finds a civ flayer/warden
[20:12:02] ‹RootRanger› They can have one mafia claim to be roleblocked, and another out someone
[20:12:02] ‹Espithel› I want shock to be the golden nymph
[20:12:08] ‹iancudorinmarian› Also, I still think Mobian is mafia
[20:12:09] ‹Espithel› That'd be the greatest meme
[20:12:09] ‹RootRanger› But
[20:12:12] ‹RootRanger› This strategy would kinda suck tbh
[20:12:19] ‹RootRanger› Seems like a huge risk for a small reward
[20:12:37] ‹ddevans96› good summon, 15 seconds
[20:12:45] ‹MasterWalks› If shock is flayer, then it makes total sense he is blocking you since he has expressed sus to ian. Him blocking ian twice is a total shock move
[20:14:01] ‹Espithel› It does.
[20:14:10] ‹Espithel› Assuming that's the case, is he scum for doing so?
[20:14:38] ‹MasterWalks› probably, but its day 2 and he promised an info dump today
[20:14:47] ‹Espithel› Wasn't that day 3?
[20:15:01] ‹MasterWalks› he moved it around a couple times so yea maybe
[20:15:16] ‹RootRanger› Hm
[20:15:28] ‹iancudorinmarian› In day 3 it's going to be day 4
[20:15:31] ‹iancudorinmarian› And do on
[20:15:33] ‹RootRanger› Yeah he did suspect ian for some reason, I don't really think he had reasoning behind it
[20:15:38] ‹iancudorinmarian› So
[20:15:49] ‹MasterWalks› If mafia has psion and flayer, killing seraph makes it easy for them
[20:16:01] ‹iancudorinmarian› Shock isnt GN
[20:16:29] ‹RootRanger› Seraph was on cooldown tonight anyways
[20:16:34] ‹RootRanger› last night*
[20:16:35] ‹MasterWalks› i caught a firefly
[20:17:10] ‹MasterWalks› If he used it N0 then yea its on cooldown but its very possible he didnt use it considering the math of him getting NK N0
[20:18:01] ‹AveragePotato› The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from MasterWalks in Forum Games. I found Wally.
[20:18:57] ‹ddevans96› is it not a safe assumption the FFQ and/or MW are town? i.e. they won't both be mafia?
[20:19:25] ‹Linkcat› No
[20:19:32] ‹Espithel› Depends. FFQ on an ER ability pretty much guarantees the firefly stays alive.
[20:19:41] ‹MasterWalks› FFQ im not too sure. Its very possible they are mafia
[20:19:48] ‹Espithel› Although Walks did just imply he has an EoR ability so er
[20:19:57] ‹Espithel› awkward
[20:19:59] ‹MasterWalks› And no not necessarily. Not every ER should be used ER
[20:20:33] ‹ddevans96› hm, I suppose you're right
[20:21:33] ‹Mobian› Yeah... I elected not to use my ability last night. It'll probably be some time before I do
[20:22:01] ‹AveragePotato› The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from Submachine in Forum Games. Awww yisssss. Mutha. Effin. Breadcrumbs.
[20:23:46] ‹MasterWalks› someone post something that has some info pls
[20:24:09] ‹RootRanger› I've got no hard info but I have suspicions based on how people are playing
[20:24:31] ‹MasterWalks› make a tier list of suspicions
[20:24:43] ‹RootRanger› Hmm
[20:25:00] ‹RootRanger› So tbh I haven't had time to follow it super closely
[20:25:03] ‹Mobian› I have nothing but suspicions myself.
[20:25:09] ‹RootRanger› But I have one person in mind who I think we should lynch and that's shock
[20:25:48] ‹MasterWalks› i want to see his info dump tbh
[20:25:56] ‹Espithel› The general consensus on Shock is he's not worth our time.
[20:25:57] ‹Linkcat› lol
[20:26:01] ‹AveragePotato› The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from iancudorinmarian in Forum Games. I'm pretty sure...
[20:26:05] ‹RootRanger› Well
[20:26:10] ‹RootRanger› He's roleblocking ian which I don't like
[20:26:12] ‹Linkcat› Of course you want to lynch shock.
[20:26:18] ‹RootRanger› There's a limited number of roles that are actually useful for civs
[20:26:27] ‹Linkcat› You don't even know that.
[20:26:37] ‹ddevans96› we don't know for sure he's roleblocking iancu, it just seems likely
[20:26:42] ‹RootRanger› My policy is that if someone is acting in the best interest of mafia, they should be lynched, even if we think they're jsut a civ playing poorly
[20:26:46] ‹Linkcat› All of them are useful.
[20:26:48] ‹RootRanger› Well, yeah
[20:26:52] ‹RootRanger› Disagree
[20:27:04] ‹Linkcat› That's wrong too, never lynch a civ.
[20:27:21] ‹RootRanger› If they're c onfirmed civ then ofc not
[20:27:24] ‹RootRanger› But if we have no hard info on everyone
[20:27:33] ‹RootRanger› And there's one guy who is making an effort to screw over the civs
[20:27:36] ‹iancudorinmarian› Oh, my ability failed and I caught a firefly
[20:27:39] ‹RootRanger› It's a clear choice to me
[20:27:41] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
(5d9) 1 + 5 + 1 + 6 + 2 = 15 ...
[20:27:45] ‹Espithel› Two fireflies caught.
[20:27:49] ‹Espithel› Excuse me.
[20:27:50] ‹Espithel› What.
[20:27:51] ‹RootRanger› Hm
[20:27:57] ‹RootRanger› We can have two FFQs
[20:28:00] ‹Linkcat› Always lynch whoever has the highest chance of being mafia.
[20:28:13] ‹RootRanger› Yes and no
[20:28:21] ‹RootRanger› Players like shock undermine the civ's ability to find mafias
[20:28:29] ‹Linkcat› ‹@MasterWalks› ‹@iancudorinmarian› Did you guys hurt the fireflies?
[20:28:47] ‹RootRanger› There's a limited number of useful roles, since roles like MInd Flayer and Otyugh honestly shouldn't be used by the civs at all in early game
[20:28:57] ‹RootRanger› ian has one of those roles, and he's being blocked
[20:29:02] ‹RootRanger› that's hurting the civ's prospects
[20:29:16] ‹RootRanger› I think it's unlikely ian is mafia trying to frame roleblocking civ roles
[20:29:28] ‹RootRanger› Since it would be a huge risk to pull off just to kill 1 person and then get outed
[20:29:37] ‹iancudorinmarian› Flayer is higher priority than firefly
[20:29:46] ‹iancudorinmarian› So that is how I caught it
[20:29:56] ‹RootRanger› He could be a mafia getting roleblocked, I suppose
[20:30:00] ‹iancudorinmarian› It cant see higher prio roles
[20:30:14] ‹RootRanger› Anyone could be mafia tho so I wouldn't use that reasoning
[20:30:28] ‹iancudorinmarian› @link I keep then in a jar
[20:30:34] ‹iancudorinmarian› Them
[20:30:51] ‹Linkcat› Just in case your dreams get real bizzare?
[20:30:57] ‹Mobian› I will say that mine is one of the combo roles, and I won't be using it until I find someone trustworthy
[20:31:13] ‹MasterWalks› No i has him in a jar. named him francis
[20:31:16] ‹RootRanger› So basically what I'm saying is that ian is likely a civ with a useful role, and shock is likely the one roleblocking him - that makes for a clear choice in my mind
[20:31:29] ‹Linkcat› Please don't out your role.
[20:31:42] ‹Espithel› By the way. Because I love you.
[20:31:43] ‹RootRanger› Ofc not
[20:31:48] ‹Espithel› ‹@MasterWalks› I wasn't roleblocked. :^)
[20:32:01] ‹RootRanger› But someone who uses their role at all in the early rounds is more important than half the roles in this game which are not very useful at all
[20:32:12] ‹MasterWalks› no one except me is sus of you then
[20:32:28] ‹Linkcat› That was to Mobian.
[20:32:43] ‹RootRanger› OH, yeah
[20:32:47] ‹MasterWalks› I will have to put my focus elsewhere until i can get concrete evidence that you are mafia
[20:32:56] ‹Espithel› Attaboy!
[20:33:03] ‹Espithel› You've gotta stay flexible in mafia.
[20:33:06] ‹RootRanger› Concrete evidence can only come from 1 person in the game and we don't want him revealing his identity
[20:33:29] ‹RootRanger› I'm open to chancing the lynch on Espi, but I'd want MW to be lynched afterward if Espi turns civ
[20:33:58] ‹RootRanger› Although since he just said he wasn't roleblocked, he could have a useful role too which I wouldn't want to lynch
[20:34:01] ‹AveragePotato› The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from Espithel in Forum Games. The grammar could use some work.
[20:34:08] ‹RootRanger› Still feel bad about jcj :/
[20:34:09] ‹MasterWalks› not necessarily. I wait for him to slip up then blast the hell outta that slip up until people are convinced.
[20:34:21] ‹Espithel› But what if I never slip up
[20:34:23] ‹Espithel› :^)
[20:34:34] ‹PlayerOa› Oh I died
[20:34:35] ‹PlayerOa› Rip
[20:34:44] ‹Linkcat› F
[20:34:45] ‹MasterWalks› mafia always slips up and you are probably a bit rusty
[20:34:47] ‹MasterWalks› F
[20:35:04] ‹ddevans96› F
[20:35:05] ‹RootRanger› Eh
[20:35:14] ‹Mobian› F
[20:35:16] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@PlayerOa› More time for next league season! :D
[20:35:17] ‹RootRanger› We can hold off on the lynch on Espi for a few rounds if we want
[20:35:18] ‹iancudorinmarian› F
[20:35:25] ‹MasterWalks› speaking of
[20:35:27] ‹Espithel› G
[20:35:29] ‹RootRanger› But if MW dies and turns civ I'd want Espi lynched immediately after
[20:35:36] ‹ddevans96› yeah, again, if you think Root is rusty in a -logic game-, I think you're crazy
[20:35:49] ‹RootRanger› Or if it gets to lynch-or-die then I think Espi is still a solid choice
[20:35:53] ‹ddevans96› maybe that's just you not knowing Root, but
[20:35:54] ‹RootRanger› ty dd <3
[20:36:00] ‹MasterWalks› No not root
[20:36:02] ‹MasterWalks› espi
[20:36:10] ‹ddevans96› oh
[20:36:12] ‹Espithel› Why do you want me lynched if MW turns civ
[20:36:14] ‹Espithel› I don't care about him
[20:36:19] ‹Espithel› Stop making me care about him
[20:36:22] ‹Espithel› aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAA
[20:36:25] ‹ddevans96› people were saying that about Root earlier in the game, so guess I misunderstood here
[20:36:41] ‹RootRanger› God it was so frustrating last game tbh
[20:36:53] ‹MasterWalks› i care about you espi. you should care about me.  :heart:
[20:36:54] ‹RootRanger› When civs were roleblocking each other and hiding information from their confirmed civ
[20:37:13] ‹RootRanger› And then I lynch one of 'em and everyone's like "root dumb"
[20:37:21] ‹MasterWalks› *cough* insig *cough*
[20:37:25] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@MasterWalks› Lol like I spent hours of hours of mafia analysis anyway.
[20:37:30] ‹ddevans96› yeah, last game was a shitshow to watch lol
[20:37:32] ‹iancudorinmarian› NoobRanger
[20:37:33] ‹RootRanger› yeah.... it's k now tho
[20:37:46] • Espithel licks Walks
[20:38:14] ‹RootRanger› So
[20:38:37] ‹RootRanger› My lynch order would go 1.) shock 2.) Espi
[20:38:54] ‹MasterWalks› too far
[20:39:07] ‹RootRanger› wdym?
[20:39:19] • Espithel fucking glomps Walks
[20:39:20] ‹Espithel› OwO
[20:39:28] ‹RootRanger› I see the merits of waiting a few rounds to lynch Espi
[20:39:33] ‹Espithel› What's it like being cared about
[20:39:45] ‹MasterWalks› not good
[20:39:46] ‹RootRanger› Just as long as we remember the mW/Espi feud
[20:40:17] ‹Linkcat› I really don't think there's anything there.
[20:40:19] ‹Espithel› What
[20:40:25] ‹Espithel› Feud
[20:40:33] ‹Linkcat› It's just a normal scumread.
[20:40:35] ‹RootRanger› Idk maybe feud is the wrong word
[20:40:43] ‹RootRanger› Eh it felt stronger than a normal scumread
[20:40:46] ‹Linkcat› A bad one.
[20:40:51] ‹iancudorinmarian› ‹@RootRanger› btw, last game you wanted to lynch me even though I was hiding nothing from you D:
[20:40:52] ‹Espithel› That's because Walks has conviction
[20:41:00] ‹Espithel› He has the power of god and anime on his side#
[20:41:07] ‹RootRanger› @ian you literally never PMed me your targets bruh
[20:41:08] ‹ddevans96› 'feud' is a term my group uses for -any- conflict where we shouldn't be trusting either side, one-sided or not
[20:41:11] ‹RootRanger› Also
[20:41:14] ‹ddevans96› I shouldn'
[20:41:20] ‹RootRanger› It was lynch-or-die and if I killed you, it would kill Mobian as well bc of your role
[20:41:24] ‹ddevans96› I shouldn't have used it here, but it is what it is
[20:41:43] ‹RootRanger› My scumreads at that point were you, sub, mobian, and by lynching you I would kill 2 people on the list instead of just 1
[20:41:54] ‹RootRanger› So
[20:42:02] ‹RootRanger› I have an idea of what's happening with MW/Espi but don't want to outright say it
[20:42:09] ‹RootRanger› I think for now
[20:42:11] ‹RootRanger› we should focus on other targets
[20:42:23] ‹RootRanger› ie shock
[20:42:42] ‹Linkcat› Just because he pushed it hard doesn't make it a better read, I do that all the time.
[20:46:31] ‹MyNameIsJoey› Hey Root, been a while
[20:46:39] ‹MyNameIsJoey› In hindsight, hey everybody else, been a while as well
[20:46:42] ‹MyNameIsJoey› :D
[20:47:00] ‹Mobian› Welcome back
[20:47:23] ‹ddevans96› o/
[20:47:53] ‹MyNameIsJoey› not back per se, just in chat, looking to see if someone answered my request in forum earlier, looks like no answers yet.
[20:48:00] ‹RootRanger› Oh hey joey
[20:48:01] ‹AveragePotato› The latest forum post is Re: Elements PvP League - Suggestions and Fee... from MasterWalks in PvP League. There is no spit in this post!
[20:48:46] ‹iancudorinmarian› Hey jijo
[20:48:57] ‹iancudorinmarian› #bringjijoback
[20:48:59] ‹Mobian› Can someone upload this chat?
[20:49:43] ‹Guest-Condor-1ea56› If the chat doesn't continue, I can upload it.
[20:49:55] ‹Guest-Condor-1ea56› Otherwise I would let it continue.
[20:50:01] ‹AveragePotato› The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from RootRanger in Forum Games. Am I sexy for knowing that?
[20:50:53] ‹MasterWalks› is anyone against lynching kaempf?
[20:51:09] ‹MasterWalks› I am starting to think he is playing as a first time mafia
[20:51:48] ‹ddevans96› we tossed that possibility around a bit last round
[20:51:53] ‹Linkcat› I still want to lynch him.
[20:51:56] ‹ddevans96› I'm still not really for or against it
[20:52:12] ‹MasterWalks› I think we should apply some pressure
[20:52:20] ‹RootRanger› Could someone summarize the argument against kamepf
[20:52:27] ‹RootRanger› I'd been reading the thread but not super closely
[20:52:56] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
(5d9) 8 + 9 + 9 + 6 + 5 = 37 ...!
[20:54:07] ‹MyNameIsJoey› I'm in the opinion in mafia that
[20:54:13] ‹MyNameIsJoey› No argument for is an argument against.
[20:55:00] ‹ddevans96› k
[20:55:10] ‹Linkcat› He was awkward and then suddenly wasn't awkward, I think this is because he talked to his mafia team and then adjusted his play.
[20:56:11] ‹RootRanger› Hm
[20:56:17] ‹MasterWalks› kaempf is not usually an awkward person too. Hes usually clean cut in his decisions and has a lot of personal confidence. He blames his awkwardness on being new to the Mafia game
[20:56:28] ‹RootRanger› Being new isn't hard if you're civ lol
[20:56:31] ‹MasterWalks› which i find a bit strange
[20:56:35] ‹MasterWalks› exactly
[20:56:38] ‹RootRanger› I see the merits of it
[20:56:55] ‹RootRanger› So I'd be ok with a lynch on shock/Espi/kaempf then
[20:57:09] ‹RootRanger› I still prefer shock because it's going based on hard information
[20:57:27] ‹RootRanger› ie results of direct roles rather than reads on playstyle
[20:58:25] ‹Mobian› ‹@RootRanger› you're assuming Shock was honest about his role. I'm not certain he was.
[20:58:50] ‹RootRanger› Claiming a role you don't have generally isn't a good civ strategy
[20:59:00] ‹RootRanger› I'm hugely against civs lying as part of their strategy
[20:59:02] ‹ddevans96› he kinda did backpedal Flayer, and then he backpedaled -that-
[20:59:17] ‹RootRanger› If we don't call them out for it, mafia can lie too, and that makes them way harder to deal with
[20:59:24] ‹ddevans96› so...yeah, if you want to policy lynch based on lying, then at some point he certainly was
[20:59:26] ‹RootRanger› Idk
[20:59:33] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@Mobian› The problem is, its not looking good on him right now that he claimed Flayer and put sus on ian, then ian gets blocked twice in a row
[20:59:34] ‹RootRanger› If nobody wants to lynch shock I'm still ok with the other 2 options
[20:59:53] ‹RootRanger› YEah, policy lynch is a good way of putting it
[20:59:56] ‹ddevans96› but he never claimed to block iancu, and claimed that he didn't
[21:00:02] ‹AveragePotato› The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from ddevans96 in Forum Games. Awww yisssss. Mutha. Effin. Breadcrumbs.
[21:01:16] ‹Mobian› Shock is also less vocal this game, which is likely an attempt to control himself.... yeah, better safe than sorry
[21:01:24] ‹iancudorinmarian› There could well be 2 flayers
[21:01:48] ‹ddevans96› yeah, that's a possibility
[21:01:50] ‹iancudorinmarian› Though I find that unliky
[21:02:01] ‹AveragePotato› The latest forum post is Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine from MasterWalks in Forum Games. Be sure to give them a raise!
[21:02:04] ‹iancudorinmarian› Since noone else claimed to be blocked
[21:02:46] ‹MasterWalks› ok ill be back in like 6 hours. No lynch on me pls
[21:03:13] ‹RootRanger› I should get some work done as well
[21:03:17] ‹RootRanger› Will follow the thread

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289895#msg1289895
« Reply #365 on: May 27, 2019, 08:09:51 pm »
Can’t have blocked ian if he caught a firefly. So either we’re both liars or neither. You pick Root.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289896#msg1289896
« Reply #366 on: May 27, 2019, 08:12:07 pm »
Firefly is lower priority, so it cant see it

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289897#msg1289897
« Reply #367 on: May 27, 2019, 08:12:14 pm »
Can’t have blocked ian if he caught a firefly. So either we’re both liars or neither. You pick Root.

FFs can't detect higher priority actions.

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289898#msg1289898
« Reply #368 on: May 27, 2019, 08:21:13 pm »
Can’t have blocked ian if he caught a firefly. So either we’re both liars or neither. You pick Root.

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289899#msg1289899
« Reply #369 on: May 27, 2019, 08:31:17 pm »
Hey shock, just in case the first response wasn't clear, and the second response wasn't clear, and even the third response didn't properly convey your error, fireflies can't see Psionic Wave on the night they were sent. Just wanted to make sure you know, since telling you once couldn't possibly be enough.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289900#msg1289900
« Reply #370 on: May 27, 2019, 08:56:50 pm »
Can confirm that there is at least one Otyugh in the game. dd was targeted by them.

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289901#msg1289901
« Reply #371 on: May 27, 2019, 08:58:57 pm »
Ooh, interesting.

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