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Who played the best mafia?

iancudorinmarian
0 (0%)
Linkcat
9 (15.5%)
PlayerOa
0 (0%)
JonathanCrazyJ
0 (0%)
immortal_feud
0 (0%)
kaempfer13
9 (15.5%)
ddevans96
8 (13.8%)
dawn to dusk
0 (0%)
InsignificantWeeaboo
0 (0%)
Espithel
4 (6.9%)
MasterWalks
1 (1.7%)
Mobian
1 (1.7%)
mathman101
0 (0%)
RootRanger
6 (10.3%)
shockcannon
6 (10.3%)
Ginyu
9 (15.5%)
Calindu
5 (8.6%)
moehrpi
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 19

Voting closed: June 24, 2019, 11:12:55 am

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289812#msg1289812
« Reply #324 on: May 25, 2019, 07:26:28 pm »
Scum read tier list

S Tier

Espithel
He is mafia.

A Tier

iancudorinmarian
He is sketchy. Not really playing how he did last game. Makes a lot of accusations. Not tunnel vision like me but lots of baseless motives.

Moe and root
Started the bandwagon on jcj. They couldnt kill him with NK but they can with lynch.

B Tier

Shock
Because its shock

ddevans and Linkcat
They are too experienced. If they are mafia, it is unlikely they will slip up. In the best scenario, if one of them is mafia, the other isnt. They can probably read each other well.

Calindu
Very aggressive and opinionated. Nothing unusual really but worth keeping your eye on.

Insig and d2d
quiet people. insig is usually quiet both in and out of this game so not necessarily too unusual.

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Everyone else.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289813#msg1289813
« Reply #325 on: May 25, 2019, 07:35:29 pm »
A lot of accusations? I only made two. And the first one was only because I was provoked.

And how is my playstyle different from last game?

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289814#msg1289814
« Reply #326 on: May 25, 2019, 07:38:37 pm »
Nothing that either iancu, Cal, shock, Insig or d2d have done seems weird to me, regarding their personalities.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289815#msg1289815
« Reply #327 on: May 25, 2019, 07:47:42 pm »
ian is more reckless this time around. He was ultra concentrated last game. Making long term game plans, calculated votes, etc. Thats why he got a ton of votes for best player. This round his reasoning for lynch was a hunch. He doesnt appear to be gameplanning all that much. He not espithel sus but i think its worth closely watching him.

Calindu i will admit i am not too sure about. Never talked to him much, but he is everything i stated in the list. Not a ton of sus on him, thats why he is B tier.

insig is not acting all that differently as i stated. Quiet people are just sketchy
d2d was much more talkative last game. He hasnt said anything about being afk or anything. If he is irl busy then totally understandable.

However, it appears irl stuff doesnt matter to yall considering the jcj lynch.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289817#msg1289817
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289819#msg1289819
« Reply #329 on: May 25, 2019, 09:06:31 pm »
Spoiler for absolutely giant chatlog:
[16:43:26] ‹moehrpi› ‹@iancudorinmarian› Did you mention anywhere that you wouldn't be as active as last mafia? Or is it because dd and Link are already doing the lion's share of posting/analysis?
[16:43:54] ‹moehrpi› Maybe I am just confused that late-game iancu posted a lot more than early-game iancu does.
[16:45:07] ‹moehrpi› [22:47:54] ‹Espithel› 'The first mafia lynch is the biggest information dump in the game.' I'd appreciate it if you could elaborate a bit. :)
[16:52:48] ‹iancudorinmarian› I can't contribute much tbh.
[16:53:04] ‹iancudorinmarian› I only really step forward when there's no discussion.
[16:58:23] ‹Guest-Archangel-5bddf› He’s mafia
[17:00:48] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[17:21:58] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[17:22:04] ‹Guest-FireflyQueen-3c571› hey
[17:32:14] ‹Espithel› ‹@moehrpi› Sure. Until we know who a single mafia is, a lot of our information is weak because nothing's certain.
[17:32:33] ‹Espithel› Once we get the first lynch, we can look at how other people reacted to that mafia.
[17:33:06] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Espithel› That makes a lot of sense. I actually just misread.
[17:33:28] ‹moehrpi› I thought about the first Nightkill. Somehow I missed 'lynch'...
[17:33:49] ‹moehrpi› Thanks for clearing that up. :flinch:
[17:34:43] ‹Espithel› Another truism is that if we've got one scum, we can look at previous nightkills to try and see why the mafia killed those people. Maybe they said something another mafia member didn't like?
[17:35:46] ‹Espithel› We can't really do that until we've got one kill because of the good old toxic townie motif: I'm defending Walks super, super hard, for example. So if I flip scum, it's going to look real, real bad on him.
[17:35:58] ‹Espithel› Ditto cal/kae.
[17:36:26] ‹Espithel› Sometimes, the mafia like to use that to try and make somebody look scummy.
[17:48:03] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› ‹@Espithel› btw link said that there’s a chance that maf hasn’t voted
[17:48:11] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Not Evans
[17:52:18] ‹Espithel› fuck.
[17:52:28] ‹Espithel› Point remains!
[18:00:19] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[18:09:09] ‹kaempfer13› hm, I did say that i would move my lynch vote at the end of the day
[18:09:49] ‹kaempfer13› dont really feel comfortable with the choices though
[18:10:48] ‹kaempfer13› also kinda want to use the who function not for ingame reasons (atleast not really) but just to see how many people would be ready to react intime for the lynch
[18:12:58] ‹ddevans96› so what're we thinking?
[18:14:17] ‹moehrpi› ‹@kaempfer13› Is it the question whether you divulge information and it's bad if it doesn't lead to a lynch? If that is not the case do it now.
[18:16:05] ‹moehrpi› ‹@ddevans96› No scum-read so far. I am a bit surprised to see Root without any votes while some people have expressed scepticism.
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[18:16:38] ‹ddevans96› hm
[18:16:46] ‹ddevans96› is anyone opposed to a jcj lynch?
[18:16:53] ‹kaempfer13› fair point
[18:17:21] ‹MasterWalks› The only scum i am reading from jcj is he is not as aggro as last game
[18:17:58] ‹kaempfer13› but many of the things that make jcj look scummy are explainable with things not related to things that are different this game
[18:18:06] ‹MasterWalks› thats not even really scummy. dude has said he wont be that active until monday and that all posts are coming from his phone
[18:18:42] ‹MasterWalks› i guess i would say i am against a jcj lynch
[18:18:44] ‹moehrpi› ‹@ddevans96› I asked somewhere earlier when there was no real motivation to lynch what we could gain from it. But neither votes for nor by him seem to be doing anything.
[18:19:49] ‹moehrpi› ‹@MasterWalks› I am against most if not all lynches. But I am against no-lynch.
[18:19:49] ‹ddevans96› okay. is anyone opposed to a MW lynch?
[18:19:54] ‹ddevans96› (MW need not answer)
[18:20:03] ‹MasterWalks› yes i am
[18:20:07] ‹MasterWalks› oh
[18:20:12] ‹ddevans96› :thinking:
[18:20:51] ‹Calindu› I don't find jcj scummy tbh, I don't think activity is a good way of deciding a lynch
[18:21:11] ‹ddevans96› I have a scumread on jcj unrelated to activity
[18:21:24] ‹iancudorinmarian› Same
[18:21:30] ‹kaempfer13› I have no strong feelings about any lynch (but my own ofc)
[18:21:50] ‹ddevans96› it's very light, but so is every other read for me rn
[18:22:16] ‹kaempfer13› day 1lynch is basically always going to be town, since mafia can easily counterbalance things
[18:22:28] ‹moehrpi› For my liking MW is too easily swayed. Then again I might be the same if I didn't just vote on anyone and decided to give it some time aterwards. I don't think it's scummy.
[18:22:31] ‹MasterWalks› not if we lynch espi it wont be town
[18:22:39] ‹kaempfer13› although if they do it too much it betrays them
[18:22:46] ‹ddevans96› essentially, yes, town lynch d1 is highly likely
[18:22:51] ‹moehrpi› Although some arguments seemed to have some holes, again not scummy.
[18:23:29] ‹ddevans96› so new question: how many people have their vote on someone that isn't their biggest scumread?
[18:24:01] ‹moehrpi› ‹@ddevans96› I do.
[18:24:39] ‹ddevans96› if you could choose any lynch, who would it be?
[18:25:31] ‹kaempfer13› I guess I could say mw isnt my biggest scumread rn, but alternatives arent much more scummy to me
[18:25:47] ‹ddevans96› who are your alternatives?
[18:26:21] ‹ddevans96› bc it seems like we don't really want to lynch either MW or jcj, and obviously I don't want to lynch myself, so is there any other option?
[18:26:48] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› how does one revise anatomy, theres so much info
[18:26:53] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› like its not going to stay in my brain
[18:27:12] ‹kaempfer13› I wanted to have another take of root, but most of that is an inkling feeling he lost his skills
[18:27:21] ‹moehrpi› ‹@ddevans96› I could drop a few names but it would most likely be related to activity and wouldn't do the others justice as it is a very weak read if you can call it that.
[18:27:38] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[18:27:40] ‹ddevans96› Root is insanely smart, no way he lost his sense of logic
[18:27:53] ‹ddevans96› that was suggested yesterday do, I don't know that I buy it
[18:28:12] ‹kaempfer13› last mafia i didnt realize he was confirmed towny for the longest time as mobian seemed like an obvious scumread
[18:28:16] ‹Calindu› Root appears to be very quiet, but I don't believe he'll play like that if he were mafia
[18:28:18] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› Studying usually helps.
[18:28:44] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› Has anyone seen ARTH or aves around? I'm curious where we stand on brawl stuff.
[18:28:47] ‹MasterWalks› If we were lynching for information, i think ian would give us some decent info. If we were lynching for reactions, not too sure. If we were lynching for mafia kill, espi would be the best target.
[18:28:52] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ‹@moehrpi› it doesnt help
[18:28:54] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ive been trying
[18:29:00] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› ARTH just posted
[18:29:22] ‹ddevans96› I think the strongest read in the game is you on Espi
[18:29:25] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ‹@Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› read the forum post before you lel
[18:29:30] ‹ddevans96› with the second being shock on iancu
[18:29:43] ‹ddevans96› that's the only two reads that have been strongly pushed
[18:29:57] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› how much time till day end?
[18:29:57] ‹Kameqo› Is this ToS?
[18:29:59] ‹kaempfer13› those are the ones with the most confidence behind them i guess
[18:30:17] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› In the few seconds it took to go from forum to here he posted. It wasnt there a minute ago when I checked.
[18:30:18] ‹ddevans96› I think one of them makes the most sense to lynch - but we'd have to get all the votes on them from 0
[18:30:20] ‹iancudorinmarian› shock's vote is random at best
[18:30:22] ‹kaempfer13› but from players who quickly latch onto things
[18:30:28] ‹MasterWalks› i honestly think shock wants ian lynched for info, not a mafia read
[18:30:54] ‹ddevans96› maybe, but that's not what he's claiming
[18:30:59] ‹Calindu› I hardly believe we'll get much info by lynching ian
[18:31:15] ‹MasterWalks› shock is always like 70% lies 30% truth
[18:32:38] ‹Calindu› This vote feels random
[18:33:16] ‹kaempfer13› yh, basically makes it impossible to lynch anyone else, there was no need for it
[18:33:23] ‹ddevans96› yeah, that severely limits the chance of me not getting lynched - it's not a hammer but it may as well be one
[18:33:34] ‹ddevans96› we kinda have to go for jcj or MW now
[18:33:48] ‹ddevans96› and we'd need 2/3 people to do it
[18:34:49] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› this is so fun to watch when you know who the mafia is :sillyspin:
[18:34:52] ‹Espithel› I am 100% opposed to a Walk lynch.
[18:34:56] ‹kaempfer13› well i suppose thats one way to restore balance; sortof
[18:35:11] ‹ddevans96› yeah, I don't think a MW lynch is in the cards this round anyways
[18:35:14] ‹Calindu› I don't think lynching MW is a good idea for this round, he's playing too aggro to be mafia
[18:35:19] ‹Espithel› Jcj is fine. Evans is fine. Ian is fine. I don't like how wishy-washy we're being.
[18:35:33] ‹Espithel› (fine to lynch)
[18:35:39] ‹ddevans96› it's not really wishy washy, this feels pretty standard
[18:35:51] ‹ddevans96› 1) early push and you (and kinda) MW
[18:35:55] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ‹@Espithel› your face is fine
[18:35:58] ‹ddevans96› 2) strong push on me
[18:36:03] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ian, did i do that right
[18:36:08] ‹ddevans96› 3) attempted organized push on someone else
[18:36:23] ‹iancudorinmarian› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› *sigh*
[18:36:52] ‹Calindu› Why are you guys seeing jcj as scummy?
[18:37:18] ‹iancudorinmarian› Remember how last game he was all like "Let's not lynch D1, let's wait for more info"
[18:37:23] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› how many mafia are there
[18:37:25] ‹iancudorinmarian› Now he actually wants a D1 lynch.
[18:37:33] ‹ddevans96› 4 mafia, 15 others
[18:37:36] ‹Espithel› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› 4
[18:37:37] ‹iancudorinmarian› I dunno, it's a thin line, but it's something.
[18:37:38] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› 4
[18:37:40] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› cool
[18:38:16] ‹ddevans96› his three reads stated in his last post (excluding me) are all opposite of mine - that means there's a perspective different somewhere
[18:38:30] ‹Calindu› Well, I haven't played last game, but I believe info is more useful when you can PM
[18:38:32] ‹ddevans96› probably nothing, could be something - 'could be something' is just the best we can do rn
[18:38:45] ‹Calindu› So you can maybe afford to take it slower
[18:39:09] ‹Espithel› We probably are stressing too much about the day 1 lynch, to be honest.
[18:39:11] ‹iancudorinmarian› I don't have any strong reads.
[18:39:26] ‹iancudorinmarian› And the only reason I previously voted for dd is to have a D1 lynch.
[18:40:01] ‹MasterWalks› If the vote is tied, does the deadline postpone or do we No Lynch?
[18:40:10] ‹ddevans96› we no lynch
[18:40:18] ‹ddevans96› so we don't want a tied vote in...20 minutes
[18:40:31] ‹MasterWalks› ok we need to break this tie
[18:40:43] ‹Espithel› On it
[18:40:45] ‹MasterWalks› I hate both targets
[18:40:57] ‹Calindu› There are 6 people that haven't voted yet
[18:41:06] ‹MasterWalks› thats fine. It hides garboid
[18:41:11] ‹kaempfer13› as in you want both dead or really like them?
[18:41:23] ‹MasterWalks› No i want neither of them lynched
[18:41:39] ‹MasterWalks› I like the people lol
[18:41:45] ‹MasterWalks› i hate the votes
[18:42:01] ‹Calindu› It hides graboid, but you don't need that many people hiding the graboid
[18:42:33] ‹ddevans96› agreed with Cal, ideally some of these non-voters vote soon
[18:42:44] ‹kaempfer13› there is a 1/3 chance mafia already found graboid
[18:42:46] ‹Espithel› I'll last-second vote if there's atie to begin the overtime.
[18:42:46] ‹ddevans96› I'd say 3-4 people defending graboid is optimal
[18:43:08] ‹ddevans96› oh, yeah, the deadline does move back slightly, to prevent vote-sniping at the very end
[18:43:10] ‹Espithel› ‹@kaempfer13› Because of the nk failing, right?
[18:43:16] ‹kaempfer13› if it even exists
[18:43:23] ‹kaempfer13› yh
[18:43:34] ‹ddevans96› yeah, that's true, actually - that is one explanation for the lack of NK
[18:44:08] ‹Espithel› The other one is a blind heal, which I find hilariously unlikely but possible
[18:44:20] ‹ddevans96› it is technically a 1/19 chance
[18:44:40] ‹ddevans96› absurd, yeah, but it's mafia, sometimes you succeed on dumb luck
[18:44:53] ‹kaempfer13› there is eraph and guard i think
[18:45:13] ‹ddevans96› those are the other options, yeah - I think that's all of them
[18:45:16] ‹iancudorinmarian› Guard protects against NK?\
[18:45:19] ‹ddevans96› unless they just...didn't send one in
[18:45:37] ‹MasterWalks› there is no way they didnt send one in
[18:45:48] ‹Espithel› Inb4 sub's a bastard mod
[18:45:49] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@iancudorinmarian› its higher on prio list
[18:45:56] ‹iancudorinmarian› I don't think Guard blocks NK
[18:46:05] ‹iancudorinmarian› NK is not a secondary ability
[18:46:15] ‹ddevans96› yeah, rereading the ability, it definitely does
[18:46:26] ‹MasterWalks› Iridium ward? nahh that doesnt block NK. I had that ability last game
[18:47:22] ‹kaempfer13› damn should have really asked for clarification on that
[18:47:40] ‹kaempfer13› but guard not actually guarding is kinda weird
[18:47:53] ‹Espithel› 13 minutes until surprise buttsex tiebreaker vote.
[18:47:59] ‹moehrpi› I am very sure guard does nt affect NK.
[18:48:09] ‹MasterWalks› kinda. Its a roleblocking ability which some of us agreed not to use N0
[18:48:15] ‹ddevans96› it definitely does not*
[18:48:21] ‹ddevans96› sorry
[18:48:26] ‹ddevans96› i.e. I'm with iancu
[18:48:39] ‹Espithel› So, seraph, graboid, mafia's retarded
[18:48:51] ‹ddevans96› basically, yeah
[18:49:12] ‹moehrpi› Seraph, Grab, GA
[18:49:12] ‹Calindu› GA is also a possibility
[18:49:22] ‹Espithel› GA?
[18:49:29] ‹Calindu› Guardian Angel
[18:49:30] ‹Espithel› Wait, seraph and GA are different roles?
[18:49:31] ‹Espithel› fuck me
[18:49:31] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@MasterWalks› i specifically explained why guard is the exception to the rule (whether it protects from the nightkill or not it gives quite a bit of information on use)
[18:50:05] ‹Calindu› I'd argue GA is just as likely as Seraph or Graboid
[18:50:11] ‹moehrpi› ‹@kaempfer13› It does not protect.
[18:50:28] ‹Espithel› Seraph/Graboid is more likely than GA, imo
[18:50:45] ‹Espithel› When you have healers, there's a WIFOM game of "do we heal someone good, or someone less important"
[18:50:55] ‹Calindu› No, think about it this way
[18:51:18] ‹Calindu› Mafia hitting graboid is a 1/19 chance
[18:51:30] ‹Calindu› Mafia hitting a target protected by GA is still 1/19
[18:51:58] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Calindu› That is true only if you are town.
[18:52:07] ‹Espithel› Yeah, but it's not 1/19.
[18:52:13] ‹Espithel› Because of the WIFOM game.
[18:52:18] ‹moehrpi› If you are mafia you know whether one of you is Grab/Serpah/GA and can skew the odds.
[18:52:47] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Espithel› WIFOM still results in a nash equilibrium.
[18:52:47] ‹Calindu› That's true, yeah, didn't consider that, but I still think it's comparable
[18:53:03] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Calindu› It absolutely is.
[18:53:29] ‹MasterWalks› we REALLY need a different target than jcj or dd
[18:53:42] ‹Calindu› Also, consider that it's more likely GA targets an experienced player, I believe mafia would do the same
[18:54:06] ‹ddevans96› I don't think we're getting one
[18:54:17] ‹moehrpi› ‹@MasterWalks› Any other suggestions, like yourself?
[18:54:46] ‹MasterWalks› It would not be wise to lynch me but its honeslty better than those 2.
[18:55:05] ‹Espithel› No it's not!
[18:55:15] ‹Espithel› Because you're 1000000,00000% town!
[18:55:21] ‹Espithel› Stop being suicidal walks
[18:55:22] ‹Espithel› aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[18:55:25] ‹MasterWalks› Espi, Kaempf, ian, insig,
[18:55:26] ‹Mobian› Why so sure, Espi?
[18:55:31] ‹MasterWalks› all better than those 2
[18:56:06] ‹moehrpi› ‹@iancudorinmarian› ‹@ddevans96› Can you give further explanation to your JCJ scum-read other than he flip-flopped between lynch/no-lynch?
[18:56:24] ‹iancudorinmarian› I dunno, it's a hunch.
[18:56:30] ‹Mobian› It should be known that in 5 mins, unless someone votes on either JCJ or ddevans, or removes a vote from them, no lynch will occur
[18:56:36] ‹MasterWalks› god damnit
[18:56:49] ‹moehrpi› ‹@MasterWalks› jester
[18:56:51] ‹Espithel› If that happens, I'm going to last-second vote, mob
[18:56:54] ‹Espithel› Don't worry
[18:56:58] ‹MasterWalks› ian, vote someone else. JCJ is afk and moving and typing from a phone
[18:57:01] ‹ddevans96› already did so
[18:57:08] ‹ddevans96› the flip-flop isn't my scumread
[18:57:42] ‹ddevans96› [2019-05-25 11:38:16] ‹ddevans96› his three reads stated in his last post (excluding me) are all opposite of mine - that means there's a perspective different somewhere [2019-05-25 11:38:32] ‹ddevans96› probably nothing, could be something - 'could be something' is just the best we can do rn
[18:57:44] ‹moehrpi› I don't think ian is mafia. The claim of a blocked role makes me think otherwise. I am closely watching, however.
[18:57:52] ‹kaempfer13› wasnt there a rule for 5 minute extension with each vote?
[18:58:01] ‹Espithel› Yes. kae.
[18:58:07] ‹iancudorinmarian› ‹@MasterWalks› That has nothing to do with my scumread on him
[18:58:19] ‹Espithel› ‹@Mobian› He's tunneling on me extremely hard.
[18:58:38] ‹Espithel› He's putting himself in stupidly large amounts of risk in doing so. If he's mafia, there is absolutely no reason to.
[18:58:43] ‹iancudorinmarian› Plus, he can then focus on moving :D
[18:58:45] ‹moehrpi› ‹@ddevans96› Thanks for the quote. Totally slipped my mind.
[18:58:49] ‹ddevans96› ‹@Espithel› you need to vote now to reset timer, btw
[18:58:49] ‹Espithel› It could be argued that it'd be actively hurting the mafia if he was.
[18:59:17] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[18:59:45] ‹Mobian› 1 min
[18:59:47] ‹Espithel› So, if walks is mafia, he's braindead. Walks isn't braindead.
[18:59:54] ‹Espithel› So I'm like pretty sure he's town.
[19:00:36] ‹Mobian› True to your word, last fucking second
[19:00:52] ‹Espithel› gottem
[19:01:35] ‹MasterWalks› Lets take bets on what role jcj has. I bet GA
[19:01:41] ‹iancudorinmarian› lol
[19:01:44] ‹kaempfer13› my time reset vote would have been even closer, but thereis no need now
[19:02:17] ‹ddevans96› BY GOD, THAT'S SHOCKCANNON'S MUSIC
[19:02:18] ‹MasterWalks› DAMNIT SHOCK
[19:02:21] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› lmao
[19:02:27] ‹kaempfer13› I like JcJ as a person, so a little sad, but no ingamerelated objections here
[19:02:43] ‹kaempfer13› huh
[19:02:49] ‹Mobian› DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMNNNNNNN
[19:02:58] ‹Mobian› Shock swoops in with a save
[19:03:33] ‹MasterWalks› I object lynching JCJ but i think its better than dd
[19:03:37] ‹moehrpi› ‹@shockcannon› Did you put in that vote because of your scum-read on iancu?
[19:04:03] ‹shockcannon› I put that in so we don’t lunch
[19:04:10] ‹shockcannon› Lynch
[19:04:18] ‹MasterWalks› wy
[19:04:19] ‹MasterWalks› why
[19:04:26] ‹MasterWalks› no lynch is a terrible idea
[19:04:31] ‹kaempfer13› I do wonder actually
[19:04:40] ‹iancudorinmarian› shock doing shock things again
[19:04:41] ‹MasterWalks› litterally everyone is opposed to it. Thats probably why you want to. Hipster
[19:04:46] ‹Mobian› MW counter'd your play, shock
[19:04:48] ‹shockcannon› Ian you’re mad. Shut up
[19:04:54] ‹shockcannon› Maf*
[19:05:00] ‹Mobian› Not everyone, MW....
[19:05:06] ‹kaempfer13› weve seen most of the information we could get from the lynch other than the roleflipping on death
[19:05:14] ‹MasterWalks› you want no lynch too?
[19:05:21] ‹MasterWalks› why tf do you want no lynch
[19:05:24] ‹kaempfer13› not really
[19:05:46] ‹Mobian› Because we don't have much intel to accuse anyone on
[19:05:46] ‹ddevans96› I mean, I'm fundamentally opposed to no lynch, but I do see why people aren't
[19:05:48] ‹ddevans96› for d1 at least
[19:06:01] ‹Mobian› At this point it's all just bickering
[19:06:06] ‹MasterWalks› Yea and we will have less if we dont lynch
[19:06:06] ‹kaempfer13› roleflipping and the chance of getting mafia should be worth it
[19:07:01] ‹moehrpi› Maybe I should vote shock...
[19:07:14] ‹Mobian› But on D1 without any confirmed intel we're just shooting blind
[19:07:18] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› do eetttt
[19:07:20] ‹kaempfer13› from a statistical perspective town has to always lynch
[19:07:24] ‹MasterWalks› dont you dare move your vote
[19:07:38] ‹Mobian› Sure, we MIGHT hit a mafia, but it's more likely to kill a town
[19:07:54] ‹kaempfer13› but psychology makes everything muddy
[19:07:54] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› "[19:06:06] ‹MasterWalks› Yea and we will have less if we dont lynch" thats wrong btw, though i probs cant talk much cause im not playing in this one
[19:07:57] ‹Espithel› ‹@Mobian› Do you want to know the best way to get confirmed intel?
[19:07:58] ‹moehrpi› ‹@kaempfer13› No, odds change/improve on later days.
[19:07:59] ‹Espithel› Killing people.
[19:08:20] ‹MasterWalks› I agree 1000% with espi
[19:08:39] ‹ddevans96› day is now final, I believe
[19:08:54] ‹Mobian› Perhaps, but it doesn't sit right with me
[19:09:01] ‹ddevans96› shock's vote is late lmao
[19:09:04] ‹Mobian› I need to go to the bank. Back in a bit
[19:09:36] ‹kaempfer13› yep on my clock shock votedtoo late
[19:09:46] ‹MasterWalks› lol shock was late by 30 sec
[19:10:01] ‹MasterWalks› need to practice you typing speed shock
[19:10:11] ‹shockcannon› I was late on purpose
[19:10:20] ‹PlayerOa› Oh wow that's a lot of chat history to read :silly:
[19:10:23] ‹ddevans96› for memes? understandable
[19:10:28] ‹shockcannon› I had a last minute idea
[19:10:29] ‹Kameqo› Right?
[19:10:42] ‹iancudorinmarian› 25 seconds late lul
[19:10:46] ‹Calindu› rip
[19:10:50] ‹kaempfer13› damn he really was ga
[19:10:58] ‹Kameqo› GA?
[19:10:59] ‹iancudorinmarian› wow
[19:11:05] ‹ddevans96› [2019-05-25 12:01:35] ‹MasterWalks› Lets take bets on what role jcj has. I bet GA < lmao, good call
[19:11:13] ‹MasterWalks› :D
[19:11:43] ‹MasterWalks› lol sub and link about to feud
[19:11:53] ‹Espithel› Hm.
[19:11:59] ‹Espithel› Is it possible that jcj was the nightkill?
[19:12:04] ‹Espithel› Can he protect himself?
[19:12:25] ‹PlayerOa› Angel??
[19:12:26] ‹iancudorinmarian› yeah
[19:12:44] ‹Espithel› Because if they can that would actually make GA as equal to block the nightkill as grabby
[19:13:00] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› LOL
[19:13:30] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@Espithel› only every other round on same target
[19:13:36] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Espithel› I don't think you understand how numbers work.
[19:13:59] ‹Espithel› ‹@moehrpi› Numbers are those things that go up and down
[19:14:05] ‹Espithel› Right?
[19:14:38] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Espithel› Yes, also lifts.
[19:15:32] ‹Espithel› Do lifts rotate into another dimension if you multiply them by the square root of -1?
[19:16:11] ‹Kameqo› Is this ToS?
[19:16:39] ‹Kameqo› Also I love that math joke
[19:16:41] ‹kaempfer13› ToS is also a mafiastyle game so sorta
[19:16:54] ‹Kameqo› Good stuff man that was great
[19:16:59] ‹Kameqo› Imaginary numbers are wack
[19:17:01] ‹Kameqo› What game is this?
[19:17:21] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› etg
[19:17:39] ‹Kameqo› Ethyl glucuronide?
[19:17:57] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› elements the game
[19:18:02] ‹moehrpi› It's mafia.
[19:18:58] ‹Kameqo› Just called mafia?
[19:19:17] ‹moehrpi› Yep.
[19:19:25] ‹moehrpi› Or werewolves.
[19:19:26] ‹Kameqo› Mk
[19:19:39] ‹Kameqo› Wait what
[19:20:01] ‹kaempfer13› there are many names for games in its style, but this standard mafia with etgthemed secondary roles
[19:20:01] ‹moehrpi› Two different names for the same game.
[19:20:33] ‹Kameqo› Ohhh okay
[19:20:39] ‹Kameqo› That's pretty cool
[19:20:45] ‹Kameqo› How have you guys been playing it?
[19:21:04] ‹moehrpi› http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game...
[19:21:10] ‹kaempfer13› dreadfully, we killed one of our best allies
[19:21:37] ‹Mobian› Yup, we surely did
[19:22:02] ‹Espithel› So.
[19:22:06] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› maybe its not your ally :sillyspin:
[19:22:17] ‹Espithel› ‹@MasterWalks› You want me roleblocked, yeah?
[19:22:20] ‹Espithel› Any particular reason?
[19:22:38] ‹MasterWalks› Cuz your mafia and you didnt get lynched
[19:22:42] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› in mafia you are always town  :sillyspin:
[19:22:53] ‹Espithel› I think you should be roleblocked because you're mafia and you didn't get lynched.
[19:23:07] ‹Espithel› :^)
[19:23:57] ‹MasterWalks› vaild point
[19:23:59] ‹Mobian› Or you're both mafia, and bussing each other
[19:24:16] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[19:24:24] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› or everyones a town this game because bastard mod
[19:24:27] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› that'd be very fun
[19:24:55] ‹MasterWalks› we arent throwing each other under the bus, we are jumping under it together.
[19:25:22] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› the point of the game is to figure it out before we killed 11 people  :sillyspin:
[19:25:22] ‹Mobian› I still wish Manny was playing
[19:25:41] ‹Espithel› Could you at least throw me under a train, at least?
[19:25:48] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Mobian› A man can dream...
[19:26:13] ‹MasterWalks› I asked him but no response :/ He would probably just vote and not explain anything.
[19:26:45] ‹Mobian› ‹@MasterWalks› he'd find a way to troll
[19:26:53] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› i petition to be put into this mafia as the roll that wasnt used
[19:27:27] ‹Calindu› The roles are random, so there could be multiple of one role
[19:27:34] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› oh
[19:27:36] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› rip
[19:27:40] ‹Mobian› Who are you?
[19:27:48] ‹MasterWalks› "If I jOiN MaFiA i WiLl JoIn OtHeR eVeNtS"
[19:27:50] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› inb4 dd and jcj both GA :sillyspin:
[19:28:11] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@Mobian› its w3 on a new device
[19:28:24] ‹Mobian› Ah
[19:33:43] ‹kaempfer13› Also sorry JcJ
[19:34:17] ‹kaempfer13› maybe one day we'll be on the same team and you wont become irrelevant/inactive day 1
[19:34:24] ‹Mobian› No point in apologizing to a corpse.
[19:34:50] ‹shockcannon› You idiots
[19:35:02] ‹Espithel› YOU FLAMING IDIOTS
[19:35:03] ‹Espithel› TAKE THIS!
[19:35:31] ‹iancudorinmarian› kae mafia confirmed?
[19:35:51] ‹Espithel› ...Actually, yeah.
[19:35:55] ‹Espithel› Kae, that's a bit of an awkward thing to say.
[19:36:13] ‹kaempfer13› ya, but we get along pretty well and yet failed to ever work together in team games, even though war and pipeworks both were great opportunities
[19:36:29] ‹Mobian› I did apologize to MW after I got him killed...
[19:36:38] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Espithel› ‹@iancudorinmarian› learn2read, nubs
[19:36:46] ‹Espithel› ‹@moehrpi› Yeah, I know
[19:36:54] ‹Espithel› I'm not going to make a thing out of it.
[19:37:03] ‹Espithel› But damn that could be taken the wrong way
[19:37:29] ‹Espithel› Also only Daddy Shock gets to call me a noob >:(
[19:38:52] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@iancudorinmarian› okay what was your sus of jcj then if it wasnt about the afk
[19:39:23] ‹iancudorinmarian› I told you, it was a hunch
[19:39:30] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[19:39:33] ‹iancudorinmarian› A bad one, as it turns out.
[19:41:15] ‹Linkcat› Fuck
[19:41:21] ‹Linkcat› I missed deadline
[19:41:28] ‹Linkcat› Who died?
[19:41:35] ‹Calindu› ‹@MasterWalks› You were the one that actually chose to lynch JCJ
[19:41:35] ‹Mobian› JCJ
[19:41:36] ‹moehrpi› GA
[19:41:37] ‹moehrpi› JCJ
[19:41:38] ‹Calindu› ‹@Linkcat› JCJ
[19:41:39] ‹Calindu› GA
[19:41:42] ‹moehrpi› Your vote did not matter.
[19:41:48] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› shit
[19:41:50] ‹Mobian› Town
[19:42:04] ‹Espithel› You know who we should've lynched?
[19:42:06] ‹Espithel› Sub.
[19:42:12] ‹Linkcat› Good shit guys
[19:42:39] ‹Espithel› oooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[19:42:42] ‹Espithel› ‹@iancudorinmarian› Spicy
[19:42:53] ‹Espithel› Was it himself?
[19:43:13] ‹Espithel› ...I like how that looks like a sword.
[19:43:34] ‹Espithel› ooooo(OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[19:43:48] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@Calindu› I voted to break tie
[19:43:58] ‹MasterWalks› any lynch is better than no lynch
[19:44:37] ‹Mobian› ‹@MasterWalks› I still disagree.
[19:44:55] ‹Linkcat› I probably would have just kept my vote on dd.
[19:44:58] ‹Calindu› ‹@MasterWalks› But you could have chosen to lynch dd instead
[19:45:18] ‹Linkcat› Well, I need to go to a party, will check in later.
[19:45:57] ‹MasterWalks› I figured jcj to still be better than dd
[19:46:05] ‹kaempfer13› deja vu; nk failing on jcj n0
[19:46:22] ‹MasterWalks› idk anymore but dd seemed less sus than jcj
[19:46:47] ‹Calindu› That's what I don't get, why jcj was seen a better lynch than dd
[19:47:28] ‹Espithel› dd is "helpful to the town"
[19:47:30] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[19:47:39] ‹MasterWalks› jcj was very little help last game iirc.
[19:47:39] ‹Espithel› Or, rather.
[19:47:44] ‹Espithel› "more helpful to the town"
[19:47:44] ‹MasterWalks› and he was totally active
[19:47:45] ‹Calindu› I feel like he was chosen in the end because it was easy to coordinate on him, he was not here, he didn't really communicate much
[19:48:13] ‹Calindu› It doesn't matter who's more helpful, it matters who is more likely to be mafia
[19:48:14] ‹MasterWalks› I disagree. For me anyways, i just saw more value in dd
[19:48:20] ‹Espithel› This is true.
[19:48:28] ‹MasterWalks› Well if that was the case, yall shouldve voted espi
[19:48:34] ‹Espithel› As in, mafia being more likely is more important.
[19:48:37] ‹MasterWalks› but nooo i have tunnel vision
[19:48:59] ‹Espithel› https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_-NIo79GfwbA%2FTAC9ErCXQcI%2FAAAAAAAAG9g%2FwAHfS9F3og4%2Fs1600%2FNew%2Btunnel.jpg&f=1
[19:49:40] ‹Calindu› Because you did tunnel vision, you probably saw something small and you just followed that
[19:49:56] ‹Calindu› I saw no real reason why you think Espithel is mafia
[19:51:18] ‹kaempfer13› how can ian actually know who jcj targeted if his ability failed?
[19:51:34] ‹kaempfer13› i guess he couldve lied once
[19:51:39] ‹Mobian› 1
[19:52:26] ‹Calindu› Maybe ian targeted someone and his ability failed because of GA
[19:52:52] ‹iancudorinmarian› I'm not saying any more, but it should be easy to figure out.
[19:53:59] ‹Espithel› Stop giving shock justifiable positions
[19:54:00] ‹Espithel› >:(
[19:54:02] ‹kaempfer13› oh ga prevents offensive roles too
[19:54:15] ‹Calindu› Well, it's either him or the person you targeted
[19:54:22] ‹MasterWalks› I think shock is FFQ, if thats worth anything
[19:55:03] ‹Calindu› Why is that?
[19:55:31] ‹Espithel› Yeah, that seems plausible. FFQ over dragonfly, though?
[19:55:34] ‹kaempfer13› if so and dd is to be trusted he very likely only knows that dd neither acted nor was acted on
[19:55:52] ‹shockcannon› Wanna hear a hot take?
[19:55:54] ‹kaempfer13› ofc multiple ffq are possible
[19:56:01] ‹shockcannon› 3 mafia voted on JCJ
[19:56:21] ‹kaempfer13› very hot indeed
[19:56:25] ‹iancudorinmarian› Then mafia are incredibly stupid.
[19:56:34] ‹ddevans96› make sure all of this gets logged, I'm packing for the weekend
[19:56:40] ‹ddevans96› I'll respond to the log later
[19:56:45] ‹kaempfer13› i dont think theyd expose themselves that much
[19:56:49] ‹Espithel› THERE'S TOO MUCH TO LOG
[19:56:51] ‹Espithel› AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[19:56:52] ‹MasterWalks› He wants several rounds to info dump, he probably targeted high risk people first round hence targeting dd, and he is being carefully reckless
[19:56:52] ‹shockcannon› Mafia went for the double mindgate
[19:57:04] ‹moehrpi› Well, if dd is mafia there is at least one more mafia on the train.
[19:57:21] ‹moehrpi› me, root, ian, espi
[19:57:25] ‹moehrpi› not counting mw
[19:57:40] ‹ddevans96› (bonus: highlight things in the log you want my response to)
[19:58:12] ‹kaempfer13› a mafia member is fairly unlikely to catch a firefly imo, although its easy to lie about it ofc
[19:58:27] ‹Calindu› But if shock targeted dd, then the only info he could have gotten is that dd didn't use any ability and was not targeted by one either
[19:58:28] ‹moehrpi› I am also struggling to see how ian can know JCJ target.
[19:59:08] ‹moehrpi› Unless he tried to poison/eat someone, he can see if he was healed?, his mafia buddies told him.
[19:59:15] ‹Calindu› ‹@kaempfer13› I don't think it's easy to lie about it, I don't see FFQ as a powerful role, I'd gladly sacrifice myself as a FFQ to out a mafia
[20:00:39] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@moehrpi› guard and gotp are also offensive roles
[20:00:57] ‹moehrpi› not blocked by heal
[20:01:07] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[20:01:37] ‹kaempfer13› i reread it to check if it can block roles, seems to state all offensive ones
[20:01:39] ‹Calindu› I think they are blocked by heal
[20:02:35] ‹kaempfer13› squid and flayer would be scummy to use though
[20:03:12] ‹moehrpi› Heal has a lower priority. That wouldn't make sense.
[20:03:48] ‹moehrpi› So the only way it can fail is if it targets someone who was healed the night before or the same night?
[20:03:57] ‹kaempfer13› oh forgot about priorities
[20:04:31] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› why dont you all talk in thread
[20:04:41] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› its eassier then chatting in here and copying this to thread
[20:04:46] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› (for people who arent here)
[20:04:52] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› chat log is so ugly
[20:05:20] ‹MasterWalks› Its easier to speculate here
[20:05:53] ‹kaempfer13› for quick talking forum requires too much refreshing
[20:06:07] ‹iancudorinmarian› Channeled my inner shock
[20:06:14] ‹MasterWalks› Some of us should list scum reads in the forum tho. Like a full list of all reads they have
[20:06:38] ‹Mobian› Yup, when I run a game, I'd like to use a separate discord channel
[20:06:48] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› in my maf, ill ban chat talk. While it has its benefits, people who arent as active and cant be in chat all the time, its an annoyance to them
[20:07:00] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› but im never hosting a maf
[20:07:13] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› so ill just have to be FGO and then do a link and veto anything else
[20:07:50] ‹iancudorinmarian› tbh, I'm fine with a chatlog instead of just having 20 pages each day.
[20:08:01] ‹Calindu› ‹@iancudorinmarian› As random as that may seem, I actually kind of agree with that lol
[20:08:16] ‹Linkcat› Lmao
[20:08:19] ‹Linkcat› True
[20:08:39] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› But what if you want to bandwagon your GA within 30 minutes and need four more votes?
[20:09:11] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ‹@moehrpi› wat
[20:09:37] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› go beg in thread. chat's fine for small mafia related qs here and there
[20:09:44] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› not for a full on discussion and thoughts
[20:09:48] ‹MasterWalks› Chat log is friendlier for mobile than forum
[20:09:51] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› wat 'wat'?
[20:09:54] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› much easier to read posts then a chat log
[20:10:03] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› *than
[20:10:35] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› i hate how chat log looks on forum, its so ugly
[20:10:43] ‹Calindu› It's easier to communicate in small messages than wall of texts
[20:10:47] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› and having to see who typed each chat message is a pain too
[20:10:59] ‹MasterWalks› Just post a series of screen shots
[20:11:13] ‹MasterWalks› can w3 participate by posting all the chat logs?
[20:11:20] ‹moehrpi› If you need to read up forum is easier. The information in chat is just so light.
[20:11:23] ‹Linkcat› Sure
[20:11:38] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› there, i got you into mafia
[20:11:46] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› no
[20:11:51] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› im not posting chatlogs ew
[20:11:54] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› so ugly
[20:12:14] ‹MasterWalks› Make them beautiful! you are a model after all
[20:12:14] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› Make them pretty! With colours! :)
[20:12:25] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› no ew
[20:14:18] ‹MasterWalks› damnit mobian. not again
[20:14:39] ‹Calindu› Wow
[20:15:42] ‹PlayerOa› Can't help but seeing that as kind of a red flag
[20:15:59] ‹Mobian› ‹@MasterWalks› In regards to my salt or ian's asinine accusation?
[20:16:49] ‹MasterWalks› salt
[20:17:02] ‹MasterWalks› Mobian? more like Mortons
[20:17:25] ‹Mobian› I do live in Salt Lake City
[20:17:33] ‹Guest-Phoenix-b838e› Mafia is in the drivers seat right now and they’re in fourth gear
[20:18:12] ‹Guest-Phoenix-b838e› But are they smart enough to kill me enough before I lay down the road tacks?
[20:18:12] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› nope, im only third gear right now
[20:18:15] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› got more gears to go
[20:20:28] ‹Mobian› ‹@MasterWalks› In all seriousness, though, what new intel have we gained, aside from knowing we killed a friend?
[20:20:59] ‹kaempfer13› everyone that voted for him is more suspicious now
[20:23:31] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[20:23:42] ‹Mobian› Maybe
[20:24:50] ‹Mobian› My theory is shaping up to be a lil different. If I survive the next lynch, I'll put words to it
[20:25:20] ‹PlayerOa› Gj cillessen, I have money on Barcelona :(
[20:28:36] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ‹@PlayerOa› wheres ter stegen?
[20:28:53] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› and suarez
[20:29:58] ‹PlayerOa› Guess Cillessen is cup keeper
[20:30:02] ‹PlayerOa› Suarez no idea
[20:30:33] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› just read, stegen is injured
[20:30:36] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@Mobian› Id say quite a bit. We have a possible answer for N0 no kill, sus of people who started the bandwagon, and tbh losing GA isnt all that bad since they cant protect GN
[20:31:03] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b›
[20:31:12] ‹MasterWalks› I mean its still bad we lost a town, but it wasnt the worst role to lose
[20:31:31] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› Oh that's a shame, best gk in the world atm along with oblak imo
[20:31:34] ‹MasterWalks› sucks he couldnt defend himself
[20:32:22] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› hmm
[20:32:36] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ederson is really solid ngl
[20:32:54] ‹Calindu› Allison has also been there this year
[20:32:55] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› and with kepa, you get additional bonus that you dont need a manager
[20:33:00] ‹Mobian› There is no defense against Lynch, aside from reason.
[20:33:17] ‹Calindu› And De Gea kind of sucked for the second part of the season
[20:33:24] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› yh
[20:33:30] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› most likely due to contract issues
[20:33:40] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› best to get rid of him and get some money
[20:33:50] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› You think so?
[20:33:53] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› romero is class, we can put romero as first choice for one season atleast
[20:34:00] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› while we rebuild the other aspects
[20:34:01] ‹PlayerOa› Romero is good yeah
[20:34:09] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› cause we desperately need CB, RB, midfield and RW
[20:34:12] ‹MasterWalks› him doing a role reveal wouldnt have been a terrible idea and would've likely saved him from lynch if he said he used it N0
[20:34:25] ‹PlayerOa› Sorting out RB, RW and CB is first priority
[20:34:26] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b›
[20:34:29] ‹PlayerOa› Fckkkkkk valencia 2-0
[20:34:39] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› midfield too imo
[20:34:42] ‹Calindu›
[20:34:46] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› midfield is shambles. we got no one
[20:34:51] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› herrera gone, matic too old no
[20:34:52] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› now*
[20:34:53] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› Scott<3
[20:34:57] ‹Guest-Phoenix-b838e› You guys are act so bad at mafia
[20:35:11] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› pogba needs to fix up a bit
[20:35:23] ‹Calindu› Pogba will leave too
[20:35:27] ‹PlayerOa› RB > RW > CB = CM
[20:35:33] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› yh, id cash in on pogba too
[20:35:39] ‹PlayerOa› If pogba leaves then CM first
[20:35:41] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[20:35:43] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› sell pogba lukaku degea, get money
[20:35:49] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› invest in youngsters
[20:35:53] ‹Mobian› Maybe short term, but if the mafia didn't kill him, everyone would accuse him of being dirty
[20:35:56] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› get deligt
[20:36:00] ‹PlayerOa› Daniel James looks interesting
[20:36:07] ‹PlayerOa› De ligt would be a dream...
[20:36:14] ‹PlayerOa› Along with Sancho
[20:36:26] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› theres a better chance now of de ligt coming to utd than before
[20:36:30] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› barca obvs still favs
[20:36:37] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› but the van de sar link will help
[20:36:48] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› and he'll be our no1 for sure
[20:36:49] ‹PlayerOa› Seems like lfc's in the race too
[20:37:09] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› cant see de ligt going to lfc
[20:37:21] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› van de sar not gonna let him XD
[20:37:40] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› if barca lose this match today, theyre gonna go hard in transfer
[20:37:43] ‹PlayerOa› :D
[20:40:15] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› hopefully that will mean barca go for mbappe and griezzmans free for us LOL
[20:41:05] ‹Calindu› I can't see barca going for mbappe
[20:41:15] ‹Calindu› No way PSG lets him go there
[20:44:41] ‹PlayerOa› It's a shame ibra got his injury
[20:48:06] ‹MasterWalks› Someone want to chat log post this monster?
[20:48:21] ‹MasterWalks› conversation has shifted to soccer
[20:51:45] ‹Mobian› When I get home
[20:52:03] ‹Calindu› Did you just call football as soccer?
[20:52:20] ‹MasterWalks› U.S.A
[20:52:21] ‹Espithel› He's not mafia, but he's certainly scum.
[20:52:25] ‹Espithel› >:(
[20:52:26] ‹MasterWalks› I like the Chivas
[20:52:39] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ew
[20:55:36] ‹Mobian› He called it soccer, I call it pointless. FITE ME
[20:55:53] ‹MasterWalks› its not pointless
[20:55:58] ‹MasterWalks› the cleats have points on them
[20:56:16] ‹Calindu› You made a powerful enemy today
[20:56:38] ‹Mobian› ROFL
[20:58:06] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[21:00:36] ‹PlayerOa› I'm with you cal
[21:02:48] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[21:09:39] ‹MasterWalks› why do people have L/J on?
[21:10:42] ‹Calindu› Because I like to see when people join or leave
[21:11:57] ‹MasterWalks› it crowds it so bad tho and you can see whos here already
[21:12:04] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› news says utd very close to signing de ligt???
[21:12:10] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› why they getting my hopes up
[21:12:36] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› Really?
[21:13:04] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› idk i just googled man utd
[21:13:06] ‹PlayerOa› Edwin's at the wheel
[21:13:09] ‹PlayerOa› lol
[21:13:18] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› and first three articles said very close
[21:13:45] ‹Calindu› There's a very reputable source for that
[21:14:17] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Calindu› Which?
[21:14:29] ‹Calindu› Gerard Romero
[21:14:46] ‹Calindu› I heard he's pretty accurate for Barca news
[21:14:47] ‹PlayerOa› de Ligt has been liking an instagram post by Lukaku, lol
[21:14:49] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› on that note, bring edwin as technical director with you, de ligt
[21:15:00] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ‹@PlayerOa› he also liked rio ferdinannds
[21:15:12] ‹Calindu› He said that de ligt got a very good offer from man utd
[21:15:15] ‹PlayerOa› Messi hits the post fml
[21:15:56] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› That's even more interesting tbh
[21:16:09] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› he'll be tested more if hes at utd, and i feel hes the kinda guy who will want that challenge. plus utd offer him more money for sure
[21:20:06] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› there arent many good RBs around this window are there?
[21:20:25] ‹PlayerOa› Wan Bissaka would be the most likely I guess
[21:20:36] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› oh yh him
[21:20:44] ‹PlayerOa› pretty solid player
[21:23:10] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› why are transfers taking so long, hurry up teams, i want to see transfer business
[21:24:27] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› Chief transfer muppet
[21:25:25] ‹PlayerOa› Nah just kidding. I'd like to see some business as well, looks like they're sorting out James at least
[21:26:51] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› not just from utd, but in general
[21:27:06] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› no signings so far
[21:27:34] ‹PlayerOa› Pulisic
[21:28:24] ‹Linkcat› I'm on mobile, someone post the chat log.
[21:29:09] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› pulisic got done before tho
[21:29:26] ‹PlayerOa› Yeah fair enough
[21:29:47] ‹PlayerOa› Dortmund had a couple nice ones
[21:29:54] ‹PlayerOa› Brandt and T. Hazard
[21:30:01] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› oh yh
[21:32:01] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› seems like barca are only gonna win la liga this yr
[21:32:21] ‹PlayerOa› 2-1 gogogo
[21:32:27] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› the only thing i watched in la liga was the iago aspas story, what a guy
[21:32:28] ‹MasterWalks› Espithel
[21:32:30] ‹PlayerOa› nice jinx
[21:32:39] ‹MasterWalks› can you post since youve been here tho whole time?
[21:33:16] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› nw
[21:41:51] ‹Espithel› Post about what?
[21:42:15] ‹MasterWalks› the chat log
[21:43:12] ‹Espithel› I guess. Gimmie a sec.
[21:48:50] ‹shockcannon› lol jcj in chat
[21:48:54] ‹shockcannon› apologize to him now
[21:51:53] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b›
[21:56:04] ‹MasterWalks›
[21:58:29] ‹vagman13› aaw por jcj :(
[21:58:48] ‹JonathanCrazyJ› So much Amusement
[21:59:08] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@JonathanCrazyJ› Its just not meant to be
[22:00:00] ‹JonathanCrazyJ› Wish could say more
[22:00:18] ‹Espithel› ‹@JonathanCrazyJ› See you in forum brawl?
[22:00:55] ‹JonathanCrazyJ› 😘
[22:01:08] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› you can say more to me
[22:01:10] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› im not playing
[22:03:48] ‹vagman13› you arsefaces lynching jcjc, i said when in doubt , always lynch ian :sillyspin:

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289820#msg1289820
« Reply #330 on: May 25, 2019, 09:28:05 pm »
I updated the most recent lore to reflect last day's actions.

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289822#msg1289822
« Reply #331 on: May 25, 2019, 10:02:40 pm »
Spoiler for absolutely giant chatlog:
[16:43:26] ‹moehrpi› ‹@iancudorinmarian› Did you mention anywhere that you wouldn't be as active as last mafia? Or is it because dd and Link are already doing the lion's share of posting/analysis?
[16:43:54] ‹moehrpi› Maybe I am just confused that late-game iancu posted a lot more than early-game iancu does.
[16:45:07] ‹moehrpi› [22:47:54] ‹Espithel› 'The first mafia lynch is the biggest information dump in the game.' I'd appreciate it if you could elaborate a bit. :)
[16:52:48] ‹iancudorinmarian› I can't contribute much tbh.
[16:53:04] ‹iancudorinmarian› I only really step forward when there's no discussion.
[16:58:23] ‹Guest-Archangel-5bddf› He’s mafia
[17:00:48] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[17:21:58] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[17:22:04] ‹Guest-FireflyQueen-3c571› hey
[17:32:14] ‹Espithel› ‹@moehrpi› Sure. Until we know who a single mafia is, a lot of our information is weak because nothing's certain.
[17:32:33] ‹Espithel› Once we get the first lynch, we can look at how other people reacted to that mafia.
[17:33:06] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Espithel› That makes a lot of sense. I actually just misread.
[17:33:28] ‹moehrpi› I thought about the first Nightkill. Somehow I missed 'lynch'...
[17:33:49] ‹moehrpi› Thanks for clearing that up. :flinch:
[17:34:43] ‹Espithel› Another truism is that if we've got one scum, we can look at previous nightkills to try and see why the mafia killed those people. Maybe they said something another mafia member didn't like?
[17:35:46] ‹Espithel› We can't really do that until we've got one kill because of the good old toxic townie motif: I'm defending Walks super, super hard, for example. So if I flip scum, it's going to look real, real bad on him.
[17:35:58] ‹Espithel› Ditto cal/kae.
[17:36:26] ‹Espithel› Sometimes, the mafia like to use that to try and make somebody look scummy.
[17:48:03] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› ‹@Espithel› btw link said that there’s a chance that maf hasn’t voted
[17:48:11] ‹Guest-Deathstalker-4afa1› Not Evans
[17:52:18] ‹Espithel› fuck.
[17:52:28] ‹Espithel› Point remains!
[18:00:19] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[18:09:09] ‹kaempfer13› hm, I did say that i would move my lynch vote at the end of the day
[18:09:49] ‹kaempfer13› dont really feel comfortable with the choices though
[18:10:48] ‹kaempfer13› also kinda want to use the who function not for ingame reasons (atleast not really) but just to see how many people would be ready to react intime for the lynch
[18:12:58] ‹ddevans96› so what're we thinking?
[18:14:17] ‹moehrpi› ‹@kaempfer13› Is it the question whether you divulge information and it's bad if it doesn't lead to a lynch? If that is not the case do it now.
[18:16:05] ‹moehrpi› ‹@ddevans96› No scum-read so far. I am a bit surprised to see Root without any votes while some people have expressed scepticism.
[18:16:21] ‹vagman13›
[18:16:38] ‹ddevans96› hm
[18:16:46] ‹ddevans96› is anyone opposed to a jcj lynch?
[18:16:53] ‹kaempfer13› fair point
[18:17:21] ‹MasterWalks› The only scum i am reading from jcj is he is not as aggro as last game
[18:17:58] ‹kaempfer13› but many of the things that make jcj look scummy are explainable with things not related to things that are different this game
[18:18:06] ‹MasterWalks› thats not even really scummy. dude has said he wont be that active until monday and that all posts are coming from his phone
[18:18:42] ‹MasterWalks› i guess i would say i am against a jcj lynch
[18:18:44] ‹moehrpi› ‹@ddevans96› I asked somewhere earlier when there was no real motivation to lynch what we could gain from it. But neither votes for nor by him seem to be doing anything.
[18:19:49] ‹moehrpi› ‹@MasterWalks› I am against most if not all lynches. But I am against no-lynch.
[18:19:49] ‹ddevans96› okay. is anyone opposed to a MW lynch?
[18:19:54] ‹ddevans96› (MW need not answer)
[18:20:03] ‹MasterWalks› yes i am
[18:20:07] ‹MasterWalks› oh
[18:20:12] ‹ddevans96› :thinking:
[18:20:51] ‹Calindu› I don't find jcj scummy tbh, I don't think activity is a good way of deciding a lynch
[18:21:11] ‹ddevans96› I have a scumread on jcj unrelated to activity
[18:21:24] ‹iancudorinmarian› Same
[18:21:30] ‹kaempfer13› I have no strong feelings about any lynch (but my own ofc)
[18:21:50] ‹ddevans96› it's very light, but so is every other read for me rn
[18:22:16] ‹kaempfer13› day 1lynch is basically always going to be town, since mafia can easily counterbalance things
[18:22:28] ‹moehrpi› For my liking MW is too easily swayed. Then again I might be the same if I didn't just vote on anyone and decided to give it some time aterwards. I don't think it's scummy.
[18:22:31] ‹MasterWalks› not if we lynch espi it wont be town
[18:22:39] ‹kaempfer13› although if they do it too much it betrays them
[18:22:46] ‹ddevans96› essentially, yes, town lynch d1 is highly likely
[18:22:51] ‹moehrpi› Although some arguments seemed to have some holes, again not scummy.
[18:23:29] ‹ddevans96› so new question: how many people have their vote on someone that isn't their biggest scumread?
[18:24:01] ‹moehrpi› ‹@ddevans96› I do.
[18:24:39] ‹ddevans96› if you could choose any lynch, who would it be?
[18:25:31] ‹kaempfer13› I guess I could say mw isnt my biggest scumread rn, but alternatives arent much more scummy to me
[18:25:47] ‹ddevans96› who are your alternatives?
[18:26:21] ‹ddevans96› bc it seems like we don't really want to lynch either MW or jcj, and obviously I don't want to lynch myself, so is there any other option?
[18:26:48] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› how does one revise anatomy, theres so much info
[18:26:53] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› like its not going to stay in my brain
[18:27:12] ‹kaempfer13› I wanted to have another take of root, but most of that is an inkling feeling he lost his skills
[18:27:21] ‹moehrpi› ‹@ddevans96› I could drop a few names but it would most likely be related to activity and wouldn't do the others justice as it is a very weak read if you can call it that.
[18:27:38] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[18:27:40] ‹ddevans96› Root is insanely smart, no way he lost his sense of logic
[18:27:53] ‹ddevans96› that was suggested yesterday do, I don't know that I buy it
[18:28:12] ‹kaempfer13› last mafia i didnt realize he was confirmed towny for the longest time as mobian seemed like an obvious scumread
[18:28:16] ‹Calindu› Root appears to be very quiet, but I don't believe he'll play like that if he were mafia
[18:28:18] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› Studying usually helps.
[18:28:44] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› Has anyone seen ARTH or aves around? I'm curious where we stand on brawl stuff.
[18:28:47] ‹MasterWalks› If we were lynching for information, i think ian would give us some decent info. If we were lynching for reactions, not too sure. If we were lynching for mafia kill, espi would be the best target.
[18:28:52] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ‹@moehrpi› it doesnt help
[18:28:54] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ive been trying
[18:29:00] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› ARTH just posted
[18:29:22] ‹ddevans96› I think the strongest read in the game is you on Espi
[18:29:25] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ‹@Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› read the forum post before you lel
[18:29:30] ‹ddevans96› with the second being shock on iancu
[18:29:43] ‹ddevans96› that's the only two reads that have been strongly pushed
[18:29:57] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› how much time till day end?
[18:29:57] ‹Kameqo› Is this ToS?
[18:29:59] ‹kaempfer13› those are the ones with the most confidence behind them i guess
[18:30:17] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› In the few seconds it took to go from forum to here he posted. It wasnt there a minute ago when I checked.
[18:30:18] ‹ddevans96› I think one of them makes the most sense to lynch - but we'd have to get all the votes on them from 0
[18:30:20] ‹iancudorinmarian› shock's vote is random at best
[18:30:22] ‹kaempfer13› but from players who quickly latch onto things
[18:30:28] ‹MasterWalks› i honestly think shock wants ian lynched for info, not a mafia read
[18:30:54] ‹ddevans96› maybe, but that's not what he's claiming
[18:30:59] ‹Calindu› I hardly believe we'll get much info by lynching ian
[18:31:15] ‹MasterWalks› shock is always like 70% lies 30% truth
[18:32:38] ‹Calindu› This vote feels random
[18:33:16] ‹kaempfer13› yh, basically makes it impossible to lynch anyone else, there was no need for it
[18:33:23] ‹ddevans96› yeah, that severely limits the chance of me not getting lynched - it's not a hammer but it may as well be one
[18:33:34] ‹ddevans96› we kinda have to go for jcj or MW now
[18:33:48] ‹ddevans96› and we'd need 2/3 people to do it
[18:34:49] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› this is so fun to watch when you know who the mafia is :sillyspin:
[18:34:52] ‹Espithel› I am 100% opposed to a Walk lynch.
[18:34:56] ‹kaempfer13› well i suppose thats one way to restore balance; sortof
[18:35:11] ‹ddevans96› yeah, I don't think a MW lynch is in the cards this round anyways
[18:35:14] ‹Calindu› I don't think lynching MW is a good idea for this round, he's playing too aggro to be mafia
[18:35:19] ‹Espithel› Jcj is fine. Evans is fine. Ian is fine. I don't like how wishy-washy we're being.
[18:35:33] ‹Espithel› (fine to lynch)
[18:35:39] ‹ddevans96› it's not really wishy washy, this feels pretty standard
[18:35:51] ‹ddevans96› 1) early push and you (and kinda) MW
[18:35:55] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ‹@Espithel› your face is fine
[18:35:58] ‹ddevans96› 2) strong push on me
[18:36:03] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ian, did i do that right
[18:36:08] ‹ddevans96› 3) attempted organized push on someone else
[18:36:23] ‹iancudorinmarian› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› *sigh*
[18:36:52] ‹Calindu› Why are you guys seeing jcj as scummy?
[18:37:18] ‹iancudorinmarian› Remember how last game he was all like "Let's not lynch D1, let's wait for more info"
[18:37:23] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› how many mafia are there
[18:37:25] ‹iancudorinmarian› Now he actually wants a D1 lynch.
[18:37:33] ‹ddevans96› 4 mafia, 15 others
[18:37:36] ‹Espithel› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› 4
[18:37:37] ‹iancudorinmarian› I dunno, it's a thin line, but it's something.
[18:37:38] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› 4
[18:37:40] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› cool
[18:38:16] ‹ddevans96› his three reads stated in his last post (excluding me) are all opposite of mine - that means there's a perspective different somewhere
[18:38:30] ‹Calindu› Well, I haven't played last game, but I believe info is more useful when you can PM
[18:38:32] ‹ddevans96› probably nothing, could be something - 'could be something' is just the best we can do rn
[18:38:45] ‹Calindu› So you can maybe afford to take it slower
[18:39:09] ‹Espithel› We probably are stressing too much about the day 1 lynch, to be honest.
[18:39:11] ‹iancudorinmarian› I don't have any strong reads.
[18:39:26] ‹iancudorinmarian› And the only reason I previously voted for dd is to have a D1 lynch.
[18:40:01] ‹MasterWalks› If the vote is tied, does the deadline postpone or do we No Lynch?
[18:40:10] ‹ddevans96› we no lynch
[18:40:18] ‹ddevans96› so we don't want a tied vote in...20 minutes
[18:40:31] ‹MasterWalks› ok we need to break this tie
[18:40:43] ‹Espithel› On it
[18:40:45] ‹MasterWalks› I hate both targets
[18:40:57] ‹Calindu› There are 6 people that haven't voted yet
[18:41:06] ‹MasterWalks› thats fine. It hides garboid
[18:41:11] ‹kaempfer13› as in you want both dead or really like them?
[18:41:23] ‹MasterWalks› No i want neither of them lynched
[18:41:39] ‹MasterWalks› I like the people lol
[18:41:45] ‹MasterWalks› i hate the votes
[18:42:01] ‹Calindu› It hides graboid, but you don't need that many people hiding the graboid
[18:42:33] ‹ddevans96› agreed with Cal, ideally some of these non-voters vote soon
[18:42:44] ‹kaempfer13› there is a 1/3 chance mafia already found graboid
[18:42:46] ‹Espithel› I'll last-second vote if there's atie to begin the overtime.
[18:42:46] ‹ddevans96› I'd say 3-4 people defending graboid is optimal
[18:43:08] ‹ddevans96› oh, yeah, the deadline does move back slightly, to prevent vote-sniping at the very end
[18:43:10] ‹Espithel› ‹@kaempfer13› Because of the nk failing, right?
[18:43:16] ‹kaempfer13› if it even exists
[18:43:23] ‹kaempfer13› yh
[18:43:34] ‹ddevans96› yeah, that's true, actually - that is one explanation for the lack of NK
[18:44:08] ‹Espithel› The other one is a blind heal, which I find hilariously unlikely but possible
[18:44:20] ‹ddevans96› it is technically a 1/19 chance
[18:44:40] ‹ddevans96› absurd, yeah, but it's mafia, sometimes you succeed on dumb luck
[18:44:53] ‹kaempfer13› there is eraph and guard i think
[18:45:13] ‹ddevans96› those are the other options, yeah - I think that's all of them
[18:45:16] ‹iancudorinmarian› Guard protects against NK?\
[18:45:19] ‹ddevans96› unless they just...didn't send one in
[18:45:37] ‹MasterWalks› there is no way they didnt send one in
[18:45:48] ‹Espithel› Inb4 sub's a bastard mod
[18:45:49] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@iancudorinmarian› its higher on prio list
[18:45:56] ‹iancudorinmarian› I don't think Guard blocks NK
[18:46:05] ‹iancudorinmarian› NK is not a secondary ability
[18:46:15] ‹ddevans96› yeah, rereading the ability, it definitely does
[18:46:26] ‹MasterWalks› Iridium ward? nahh that doesnt block NK. I had that ability last game
[18:47:22] ‹kaempfer13› damn should have really asked for clarification on that
[18:47:40] ‹kaempfer13› but guard not actually guarding is kinda weird
[18:47:53] ‹Espithel› 13 minutes until surprise buttsex tiebreaker vote.
[18:47:59] ‹moehrpi› I am very sure guard does nt affect NK.
[18:48:09] ‹MasterWalks› kinda. Its a roleblocking ability which some of us agreed not to use N0
[18:48:15] ‹ddevans96› it definitely does not*
[18:48:21] ‹ddevans96› sorry
[18:48:26] ‹ddevans96› i.e. I'm with iancu
[18:48:39] ‹Espithel› So, seraph, graboid, mafia's retarded
[18:48:51] ‹ddevans96› basically, yeah
[18:49:12] ‹moehrpi› Seraph, Grab, GA
[18:49:12] ‹Calindu› GA is also a possibility
[18:49:22] ‹Espithel› GA?
[18:49:29] ‹Calindu› Guardian Angel
[18:49:30] ‹Espithel› Wait, seraph and GA are different roles?
[18:49:31] ‹Espithel› fuck me
[18:49:31] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@MasterWalks› i specifically explained why guard is the exception to the rule (whether it protects from the nightkill or not it gives quite a bit of information on use)
[18:50:05] ‹Calindu› I'd argue GA is just as likely as Seraph or Graboid
[18:50:11] ‹moehrpi› ‹@kaempfer13› It does not protect.
[18:50:28] ‹Espithel› Seraph/Graboid is more likely than GA, imo
[18:50:45] ‹Espithel› When you have healers, there's a WIFOM game of "do we heal someone good, or someone less important"
[18:50:55] ‹Calindu› No, think about it this way
[18:51:18] ‹Calindu› Mafia hitting graboid is a 1/19 chance
[18:51:30] ‹Calindu› Mafia hitting a target protected by GA is still 1/19
[18:51:58] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Calindu› That is true only if you are town.
[18:52:07] ‹Espithel› Yeah, but it's not 1/19.
[18:52:13] ‹Espithel› Because of the WIFOM game.
[18:52:18] ‹moehrpi› If you are mafia you know whether one of you is Grab/Serpah/GA and can skew the odds.
[18:52:47] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Espithel› WIFOM still results in a nash equilibrium.
[18:52:47] ‹Calindu› That's true, yeah, didn't consider that, but I still think it's comparable
[18:53:03] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Calindu› It absolutely is.
[18:53:29] ‹MasterWalks› we REALLY need a different target than jcj or dd
[18:53:42] ‹Calindu› Also, consider that it's more likely GA targets an experienced player, I believe mafia would do the same
[18:54:06] ‹ddevans96› I don't think we're getting one
[18:54:17] ‹moehrpi› ‹@MasterWalks› Any other suggestions, like yourself?
[18:54:46] ‹MasterWalks› It would not be wise to lynch me but its honeslty better than those 2.
[18:55:05] ‹Espithel› No it's not!
[18:55:15] ‹Espithel› Because you're 1000000,00000% town!
[18:55:21] ‹Espithel› Stop being suicidal walks
[18:55:22] ‹Espithel› aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[18:55:25] ‹MasterWalks› Espi, Kaempf, ian, insig,
[18:55:26] ‹Mobian› Why so sure, Espi?
[18:55:31] ‹MasterWalks› all better than those 2
[18:56:06] ‹moehrpi› ‹@iancudorinmarian› ‹@ddevans96› Can you give further explanation to your JCJ scum-read other than he flip-flopped between lynch/no-lynch?
[18:56:24] ‹iancudorinmarian› I dunno, it's a hunch.
[18:56:30] ‹Mobian› It should be known that in 5 mins, unless someone votes on either JCJ or ddevans, or removes a vote from them, no lynch will occur
[18:56:36] ‹MasterWalks› god damnit
[18:56:49] ‹moehrpi› ‹@MasterWalks› jester
[18:56:51] ‹Espithel› If that happens, I'm going to last-second vote, mob
[18:56:54] ‹Espithel› Don't worry
[18:56:58] ‹MasterWalks› ian, vote someone else. JCJ is afk and moving and typing from a phone
[18:57:01] ‹ddevans96› already did so
[18:57:08] ‹ddevans96› the flip-flop isn't my scumread
[18:57:42] ‹ddevans96› [2019-05-25 11:38:16] ‹ddevans96› his three reads stated in his last post (excluding me) are all opposite of mine - that means there's a perspective different somewhere [2019-05-25 11:38:32] ‹ddevans96› probably nothing, could be something - 'could be something' is just the best we can do rn
[18:57:44] ‹moehrpi› I don't think ian is mafia. The claim of a blocked role makes me think otherwise. I am closely watching, however.
[18:57:52] ‹kaempfer13› wasnt there a rule for 5 minute extension with each vote?
[18:58:01] ‹Espithel› Yes. kae.
[18:58:07] ‹iancudorinmarian› ‹@MasterWalks› That has nothing to do with my scumread on him
[18:58:19] ‹Espithel› ‹@Mobian› He's tunneling on me extremely hard.
[18:58:38] ‹Espithel› He's putting himself in stupidly large amounts of risk in doing so. If he's mafia, there is absolutely no reason to.
[18:58:43] ‹iancudorinmarian› Plus, he can then focus on moving :D
[18:58:45] ‹moehrpi› ‹@ddevans96› Thanks for the quote. Totally slipped my mind.
[18:58:49] ‹ddevans96› ‹@Espithel› you need to vote now to reset timer, btw
[18:58:49] ‹Espithel› It could be argued that it'd be actively hurting the mafia if he was.
[18:59:17] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[18:59:45] ‹Mobian› 1 min
[18:59:47] ‹Espithel› So, if walks is mafia, he's braindead. Walks isn't braindead.
[18:59:54] ‹Espithel› So I'm like pretty sure he's town.
[19:00:36] ‹Mobian› True to your word, last fucking second
[19:00:52] ‹Espithel› gottem
[19:01:35] ‹MasterWalks› Lets take bets on what role jcj has. I bet GA
[19:01:41] ‹iancudorinmarian› lol
[19:01:44] ‹kaempfer13› my time reset vote would have been even closer, but thereis no need now
[19:02:17] ‹ddevans96› BY GOD, THAT'S SHOCKCANNON'S MUSIC
[19:02:18] ‹MasterWalks› DAMNIT SHOCK
[19:02:21] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› lmao
[19:02:27] ‹kaempfer13› I like JcJ as a person, so a little sad, but no ingamerelated objections here
[19:02:43] ‹kaempfer13› huh
[19:02:49] ‹Mobian› DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMNNNNNNN
[19:02:58] ‹Mobian› Shock swoops in with a save
[19:03:33] ‹MasterWalks› I object lynching JCJ but i think its better than dd
[19:03:37] ‹moehrpi› ‹@shockcannon› Did you put in that vote because of your scum-read on iancu?
[19:04:03] ‹shockcannon› I put that in so we don’t lunch
[19:04:10] ‹shockcannon› Lynch
[19:04:18] ‹MasterWalks› wy
[19:04:19] ‹MasterWalks› why
[19:04:26] ‹MasterWalks› no lynch is a terrible idea
[19:04:31] ‹kaempfer13› I do wonder actually
[19:04:40] ‹iancudorinmarian› shock doing shock things again
[19:04:41] ‹MasterWalks› litterally everyone is opposed to it. Thats probably why you want to. Hipster
[19:04:46] ‹Mobian› MW counter'd your play, shock
[19:04:48] ‹shockcannon› Ian you’re mad. Shut up
[19:04:54] ‹shockcannon› Maf*
[19:05:00] ‹Mobian› Not everyone, MW....
[19:05:06] ‹kaempfer13› weve seen most of the information we could get from the lynch other than the roleflipping on death
[19:05:14] ‹MasterWalks› you want no lynch too?
[19:05:21] ‹MasterWalks› why tf do you want no lynch
[19:05:24] ‹kaempfer13› not really
[19:05:46] ‹Mobian› Because we don't have much intel to accuse anyone on
[19:05:46] ‹ddevans96› I mean, I'm fundamentally opposed to no lynch, but I do see why people aren't
[19:05:48] ‹ddevans96› for d1 at least
[19:06:01] ‹Mobian› At this point it's all just bickering
[19:06:06] ‹MasterWalks› Yea and we will have less if we dont lynch
[19:06:06] ‹kaempfer13› roleflipping and the chance of getting mafia should be worth it
[19:07:01] ‹moehrpi› Maybe I should vote shock...
[19:07:14] ‹Mobian› But on D1 without any confirmed intel we're just shooting blind
[19:07:18] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› do eetttt
[19:07:20] ‹kaempfer13› from a statistical perspective town has to always lynch
[19:07:24] ‹MasterWalks› dont you dare move your vote
[19:07:38] ‹Mobian› Sure, we MIGHT hit a mafia, but it's more likely to kill a town
[19:07:54] ‹kaempfer13› but psychology makes everything muddy
[19:07:54] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› "[19:06:06] ‹MasterWalks› Yea and we will have less if we dont lynch" thats wrong btw, though i probs cant talk much cause im not playing in this one
[19:07:57] ‹Espithel› ‹@Mobian› Do you want to know the best way to get confirmed intel?
[19:07:58] ‹moehrpi› ‹@kaempfer13› No, odds change/improve on later days.
[19:07:59] ‹Espithel› Killing people.
[19:08:20] ‹MasterWalks› I agree 1000% with espi
[19:08:39] ‹ddevans96› day is now final, I believe
[19:08:54] ‹Mobian› Perhaps, but it doesn't sit right with me
[19:09:01] ‹ddevans96› shock's vote is late lmao
[19:09:04] ‹Mobian› I need to go to the bank. Back in a bit
[19:09:36] ‹kaempfer13› yep on my clock shock votedtoo late
[19:09:46] ‹MasterWalks› lol shock was late by 30 sec
[19:10:01] ‹MasterWalks› need to practice you typing speed shock
[19:10:11] ‹shockcannon› I was late on purpose
[19:10:20] ‹PlayerOa› Oh wow that's a lot of chat history to read :silly:
[19:10:23] ‹ddevans96› for memes? understandable
[19:10:28] ‹shockcannon› I had a last minute idea
[19:10:29] ‹Kameqo› Right?
[19:10:42] ‹iancudorinmarian› 25 seconds late lul
[19:10:46] ‹Calindu› rip
[19:10:50] ‹kaempfer13› damn he really was ga
[19:10:58] ‹Kameqo› GA?
[19:10:59] ‹iancudorinmarian› wow
[19:11:05] ‹ddevans96› [2019-05-25 12:01:35] ‹MasterWalks› Lets take bets on what role jcj has. I bet GA < lmao, good call
[19:11:13] ‹MasterWalks› :D
[19:11:43] ‹MasterWalks› lol sub and link about to feud
[19:11:53] ‹Espithel› Hm.
[19:11:59] ‹Espithel› Is it possible that jcj was the nightkill?
[19:12:04] ‹Espithel› Can he protect himself?
[19:12:25] ‹PlayerOa› Angel??
[19:12:26] ‹iancudorinmarian› yeah
[19:12:44] ‹Espithel› Because if they can that would actually make GA as equal to block the nightkill as grabby
[19:13:00] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› LOL
[19:13:30] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@Espithel› only every other round on same target
[19:13:36] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Espithel› I don't think you understand how numbers work.
[19:13:59] ‹Espithel› ‹@moehrpi› Numbers are those things that go up and down
[19:14:05] ‹Espithel› Right?
[19:14:38] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Espithel› Yes, also lifts.
[19:15:32] ‹Espithel› Do lifts rotate into another dimension if you multiply them by the square root of -1?
[19:16:11] ‹Kameqo› Is this ToS?
[19:16:39] ‹Kameqo› Also I love that math joke
[19:16:41] ‹kaempfer13› ToS is also a mafiastyle game so sorta
[19:16:54] ‹Kameqo› Good stuff man that was great
[19:16:59] ‹Kameqo› Imaginary numbers are wack
[19:17:01] ‹Kameqo› What game is this?
[19:17:21] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› etg
[19:17:39] ‹Kameqo› Ethyl glucuronide?
[19:17:57] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› elements the game
[19:18:02] ‹moehrpi› It's mafia.
[19:18:58] ‹Kameqo› Just called mafia?
[19:19:17] ‹moehrpi› Yep.
[19:19:25] ‹moehrpi› Or werewolves.
[19:19:26] ‹Kameqo› Mk
[19:19:39] ‹Kameqo› Wait what
[19:20:01] ‹kaempfer13› there are many names for games in its style, but this standard mafia with etgthemed secondary roles
[19:20:01] ‹moehrpi› Two different names for the same game.
[19:20:33] ‹Kameqo› Ohhh okay
[19:20:39] ‹Kameqo› That's pretty cool
[19:20:45] ‹Kameqo› How have you guys been playing it?
[19:21:04] ‹moehrpi› http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game...
[19:21:10] ‹kaempfer13› dreadfully, we killed one of our best allies
[19:21:37] ‹Mobian› Yup, we surely did
[19:22:02] ‹Espithel› So.
[19:22:06] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› maybe its not your ally :sillyspin:
[19:22:17] ‹Espithel› ‹@MasterWalks› You want me roleblocked, yeah?
[19:22:20] ‹Espithel› Any particular reason?
[19:22:38] ‹MasterWalks› Cuz your mafia and you didnt get lynched
[19:22:42] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› in mafia you are always town  :sillyspin:
[19:22:53] ‹Espithel› I think you should be roleblocked because you're mafia and you didn't get lynched.
[19:23:07] ‹Espithel› :^)
[19:23:57] ‹MasterWalks› vaild point
[19:23:59] ‹Mobian› Or you're both mafia, and bussing each other
[19:24:16] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[19:24:24] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› or everyones a town this game because bastard mod
[19:24:27] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› that'd be very fun
[19:24:55] ‹MasterWalks› we arent throwing each other under the bus, we are jumping under it together.
[19:25:22] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› the point of the game is to figure it out before we killed 11 people  :sillyspin:
[19:25:22] ‹Mobian› I still wish Manny was playing
[19:25:41] ‹Espithel› Could you at least throw me under a train, at least?
[19:25:48] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Mobian› A man can dream...
[19:26:13] ‹MasterWalks› I asked him but no response :/ He would probably just vote and not explain anything.
[19:26:45] ‹Mobian› ‹@MasterWalks› he'd find a way to troll
[19:26:53] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› i petition to be put into this mafia as the roll that wasnt used
[19:27:27] ‹Calindu› The roles are random, so there could be multiple of one role
[19:27:34] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› oh
[19:27:36] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› rip
[19:27:40] ‹Mobian› Who are you?
[19:27:48] ‹MasterWalks› "If I jOiN MaFiA i WiLl JoIn OtHeR eVeNtS"
[19:27:50] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› inb4 dd and jcj both GA :sillyspin:
[19:28:11] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@Mobian› its w3 on a new device
[19:28:24] ‹Mobian› Ah
[19:33:43] ‹kaempfer13› Also sorry JcJ
[19:34:17] ‹kaempfer13› maybe one day we'll be on the same team and you wont become irrelevant/inactive day 1
[19:34:24] ‹Mobian› No point in apologizing to a corpse.
[19:34:50] ‹shockcannon› You idiots
[19:35:02] ‹Espithel› YOU FLAMING IDIOTS
[19:35:03] ‹Espithel› TAKE THIS!
[19:35:31] ‹iancudorinmarian› kae mafia confirmed?
[19:35:51] ‹Espithel› ...Actually, yeah.
[19:35:55] ‹Espithel› Kae, that's a bit of an awkward thing to say.
[19:36:13] ‹kaempfer13› ya, but we get along pretty well and yet failed to ever work together in team games, even though war and pipeworks both were great opportunities
[19:36:29] ‹Mobian› I did apologize to MW after I got him killed...
[19:36:38] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Espithel› ‹@iancudorinmarian› learn2read, nubs
[19:36:46] ‹Espithel› ‹@moehrpi› Yeah, I know
[19:36:54] ‹Espithel› I'm not going to make a thing out of it.
[19:37:03] ‹Espithel› But damn that could be taken the wrong way
[19:37:29] ‹Espithel› Also only Daddy Shock gets to call me a noob >:(
[19:38:52] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@iancudorinmarian› okay what was your sus of jcj then if it wasnt about the afk
[19:39:23] ‹iancudorinmarian› I told you, it was a hunch
[19:39:30] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[19:39:33] ‹iancudorinmarian› A bad one, as it turns out.
[19:41:15] ‹Linkcat› Fuck
[19:41:21] ‹Linkcat› I missed deadline
[19:41:28] ‹Linkcat› Who died?
[19:41:35] ‹Calindu› ‹@MasterWalks› You were the one that actually chose to lynch JCJ
[19:41:35] ‹Mobian› JCJ
[19:41:36] ‹moehrpi› GA
[19:41:37] ‹moehrpi› JCJ
[19:41:38] ‹Calindu› ‹@Linkcat› JCJ
[19:41:39] ‹Calindu› GA
[19:41:42] ‹moehrpi› Your vote did not matter.
[19:41:48] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› shit
[19:41:50] ‹Mobian› Town
[19:42:04] ‹Espithel› You know who we should've lynched?
[19:42:06] ‹Espithel› Sub.
[19:42:12] ‹Linkcat› Good shit guys
[19:42:39] ‹Espithel› oooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[19:42:42] ‹Espithel› ‹@iancudorinmarian› Spicy
[19:42:53] ‹Espithel› Was it himself?
[19:43:13] ‹Espithel› ...I like how that looks like a sword.
[19:43:34] ‹Espithel› ooooo(OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[19:43:48] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@Calindu› I voted to break tie
[19:43:58] ‹MasterWalks› any lynch is better than no lynch
[19:44:37] ‹Mobian› ‹@MasterWalks› I still disagree.
[19:44:55] ‹Linkcat› I probably would have just kept my vote on dd.
[19:44:58] ‹Calindu› ‹@MasterWalks› But you could have chosen to lynch dd instead
[19:45:18] ‹Linkcat› Well, I need to go to a party, will check in later.
[19:45:57] ‹MasterWalks› I figured jcj to still be better than dd
[19:46:05] ‹kaempfer13› deja vu; nk failing on jcj n0
[19:46:22] ‹MasterWalks› idk anymore but dd seemed less sus than jcj
[19:46:47] ‹Calindu› That's what I don't get, why jcj was seen a better lynch than dd
[19:47:28] ‹Espithel› dd is "helpful to the town"
[19:47:30] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[19:47:39] ‹MasterWalks› jcj was very little help last game iirc.
[19:47:39] ‹Espithel› Or, rather.
[19:47:44] ‹Espithel› "more helpful to the town"
[19:47:44] ‹MasterWalks› and he was totally active
[19:47:45] ‹Calindu› I feel like he was chosen in the end because it was easy to coordinate on him, he was not here, he didn't really communicate much
[19:48:13] ‹Calindu› It doesn't matter who's more helpful, it matters who is more likely to be mafia
[19:48:14] ‹MasterWalks› I disagree. For me anyways, i just saw more value in dd
[19:48:20] ‹Espithel› This is true.
[19:48:28] ‹MasterWalks› Well if that was the case, yall shouldve voted espi
[19:48:34] ‹Espithel› As in, mafia being more likely is more important.
[19:48:37] ‹MasterWalks› but nooo i have tunnel vision
[19:48:59] ‹Espithel› https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_-NIo79GfwbA%2FTAC9ErCXQcI%2FAAAAAAAAG9g%2FwAHfS9F3og4%2Fs1600%2FNew%2Btunnel.jpg&f=1
[19:49:40] ‹Calindu› Because you did tunnel vision, you probably saw something small and you just followed that
[19:49:56] ‹Calindu› I saw no real reason why you think Espithel is mafia
[19:51:18] ‹kaempfer13› how can ian actually know who jcj targeted if his ability failed?
[19:51:34] ‹kaempfer13› i guess he couldve lied once
[19:51:39] ‹Mobian› 1
[19:52:26] ‹Calindu› Maybe ian targeted someone and his ability failed because of GA
[19:52:52] ‹iancudorinmarian› I'm not saying any more, but it should be easy to figure out.
[19:53:59] ‹Espithel› Stop giving shock justifiable positions
[19:54:00] ‹Espithel› >:(
[19:54:02] ‹kaempfer13› oh ga prevents offensive roles too
[19:54:15] ‹Calindu› Well, it's either him or the person you targeted
[19:54:22] ‹MasterWalks› I think shock is FFQ, if thats worth anything
[19:55:03] ‹Calindu› Why is that?
[19:55:31] ‹Espithel› Yeah, that seems plausible. FFQ over dragonfly, though?
[19:55:34] ‹kaempfer13› if so and dd is to be trusted he very likely only knows that dd neither acted nor was acted on
[19:55:52] ‹shockcannon› Wanna hear a hot take?
[19:55:54] ‹kaempfer13› ofc multiple ffq are possible
[19:56:01] ‹shockcannon› 3 mafia voted on JCJ
[19:56:21] ‹kaempfer13› very hot indeed
[19:56:25] ‹iancudorinmarian› Then mafia are incredibly stupid.
[19:56:34] ‹ddevans96› make sure all of this gets logged, I'm packing for the weekend
[19:56:40] ‹ddevans96› I'll respond to the log later
[19:56:45] ‹kaempfer13› i dont think theyd expose themselves that much
[19:56:49] ‹Espithel› THERE'S TOO MUCH TO LOG
[19:56:51] ‹Espithel› AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[19:56:52] ‹MasterWalks› He wants several rounds to info dump, he probably targeted high risk people first round hence targeting dd, and he is being carefully reckless
[19:56:52] ‹shockcannon› Mafia went for the double mindgate
[19:57:04] ‹moehrpi› Well, if dd is mafia there is at least one more mafia on the train.
[19:57:21] ‹moehrpi› me, root, ian, espi
[19:57:25] ‹moehrpi› not counting mw
[19:57:40] ‹ddevans96› (bonus: highlight things in the log you want my response to)
[19:58:12] ‹kaempfer13› a mafia member is fairly unlikely to catch a firefly imo, although its easy to lie about it ofc
[19:58:27] ‹Calindu› But if shock targeted dd, then the only info he could have gotten is that dd didn't use any ability and was not targeted by one either
[19:58:28] ‹moehrpi› I am also struggling to see how ian can know JCJ target.
[19:59:08] ‹moehrpi› Unless he tried to poison/eat someone, he can see if he was healed?, his mafia buddies told him.
[19:59:15] ‹Calindu› ‹@kaempfer13› I don't think it's easy to lie about it, I don't see FFQ as a powerful role, I'd gladly sacrifice myself as a FFQ to out a mafia
[20:00:39] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@moehrpi› guard and gotp are also offensive roles
[20:00:57] ‹moehrpi› not blocked by heal
[20:01:07] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[20:01:37] ‹kaempfer13› i reread it to check if it can block roles, seems to state all offensive ones
[20:01:39] ‹Calindu› I think they are blocked by heal
[20:02:35] ‹kaempfer13› squid and flayer would be scummy to use though
[20:03:12] ‹moehrpi› Heal has a lower priority. That wouldn't make sense.
[20:03:48] ‹moehrpi› So the only way it can fail is if it targets someone who was healed the night before or the same night?
[20:03:57] ‹kaempfer13› oh forgot about priorities
[20:04:31] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› why dont you all talk in thread
[20:04:41] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› its eassier then chatting in here and copying this to thread
[20:04:46] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› (for people who arent here)
[20:04:52] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› chat log is so ugly
[20:05:20] ‹MasterWalks› Its easier to speculate here
[20:05:53] ‹kaempfer13› for quick talking forum requires too much refreshing
[20:06:07] ‹iancudorinmarian› Channeled my inner shock
[20:06:14] ‹MasterWalks› Some of us should list scum reads in the forum tho. Like a full list of all reads they have
[20:06:38] ‹Mobian› Yup, when I run a game, I'd like to use a separate discord channel
[20:06:48] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› in my maf, ill ban chat talk. While it has its benefits, people who arent as active and cant be in chat all the time, its an annoyance to them
[20:07:00] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› but im never hosting a maf
[20:07:13] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› so ill just have to be FGO and then do a link and veto anything else
[20:07:50] ‹iancudorinmarian› tbh, I'm fine with a chatlog instead of just having 20 pages each day.
[20:08:01] ‹Calindu› ‹@iancudorinmarian› As random as that may seem, I actually kind of agree with that lol
[20:08:16] ‹Linkcat› Lmao
[20:08:19] ‹Linkcat› True
[20:08:39] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› But what if you want to bandwagon your GA within 30 minutes and need four more votes?
[20:09:11] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ‹@moehrpi› wat
[20:09:37] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› go beg in thread. chat's fine for small mafia related qs here and there
[20:09:44] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› not for a full on discussion and thoughts
[20:09:48] ‹MasterWalks› Chat log is friendlier for mobile than forum
[20:09:51] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› wat 'wat'?
[20:09:54] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› much easier to read posts then a chat log
[20:10:03] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› *than
[20:10:35] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› i hate how chat log looks on forum, its so ugly
[20:10:43] ‹Calindu› It's easier to communicate in small messages than wall of texts
[20:10:47] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› and having to see who typed each chat message is a pain too
[20:10:59] ‹MasterWalks› Just post a series of screen shots
[20:11:13] ‹MasterWalks› can w3 participate by posting all the chat logs?
[20:11:20] ‹moehrpi› If you need to read up forum is easier. The information in chat is just so light.
[20:11:23] ‹Linkcat› Sure
[20:11:38] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› there, i got you into mafia
[20:11:46] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› no
[20:11:51] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› im not posting chatlogs ew
[20:11:54] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› so ugly
[20:12:14] ‹MasterWalks› Make them beautiful! you are a model after all
[20:12:14] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› Make them pretty! With colours! :)
[20:12:25] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› no ew
[20:14:18] ‹MasterWalks› damnit mobian. not again
[20:14:39] ‹Calindu› Wow
[20:15:42] ‹PlayerOa› Can't help but seeing that as kind of a red flag
[20:15:59] ‹Mobian› ‹@MasterWalks› In regards to my salt or ian's asinine accusation?
[20:16:49] ‹MasterWalks› salt
[20:17:02] ‹MasterWalks› Mobian? more like Mortons
[20:17:25] ‹Mobian› I do live in Salt Lake City
[20:17:33] ‹Guest-Phoenix-b838e› Mafia is in the drivers seat right now and they’re in fourth gear
[20:18:12] ‹Guest-Phoenix-b838e› But are they smart enough to kill me enough before I lay down the road tacks?
[20:18:12] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› nope, im only third gear right now
[20:18:15] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› got more gears to go
[20:20:28] ‹Mobian› ‹@MasterWalks› In all seriousness, though, what new intel have we gained, aside from knowing we killed a friend?
[20:20:59] ‹kaempfer13› everyone that voted for him is more suspicious now
[20:23:31] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[20:23:42] ‹Mobian› Maybe
[20:24:50] ‹Mobian› My theory is shaping up to be a lil different. If I survive the next lynch, I'll put words to it
[20:25:20] ‹PlayerOa› Gj cillessen, I have money on Barcelona :(
[20:28:36] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ‹@PlayerOa› wheres ter stegen?
[20:28:53] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› and suarez
[20:29:58] ‹PlayerOa› Guess Cillessen is cup keeper
[20:30:02] ‹PlayerOa› Suarez no idea
[20:30:33] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› just read, stegen is injured
[20:30:36] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@Mobian› Id say quite a bit. We have a possible answer for N0 no kill, sus of people who started the bandwagon, and tbh losing GA isnt all that bad since they cant protect GN
[20:31:03] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b›
[20:31:12] ‹MasterWalks› I mean its still bad we lost a town, but it wasnt the worst role to lose
[20:31:31] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› Oh that's a shame, best gk in the world atm along with oblak imo
[20:31:34] ‹MasterWalks› sucks he couldnt defend himself
[20:32:22] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› hmm
[20:32:36] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ederson is really solid ngl
[20:32:54] ‹Calindu› Allison has also been there this year
[20:32:55] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› and with kepa, you get additional bonus that you dont need a manager
[20:33:00] ‹Mobian› There is no defense against Lynch, aside from reason.
[20:33:17] ‹Calindu› And De Gea kind of sucked for the second part of the season
[20:33:24] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› yh
[20:33:30] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› most likely due to contract issues
[20:33:40] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› best to get rid of him and get some money
[20:33:50] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› You think so?
[20:33:53] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› romero is class, we can put romero as first choice for one season atleast
[20:34:00] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› while we rebuild the other aspects
[20:34:01] ‹PlayerOa› Romero is good yeah
[20:34:09] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› cause we desperately need CB, RB, midfield and RW
[20:34:12] ‹MasterWalks› him doing a role reveal wouldnt have been a terrible idea and would've likely saved him from lynch if he said he used it N0
[20:34:25] ‹PlayerOa› Sorting out RB, RW and CB is first priority
[20:34:26] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b›
[20:34:29] ‹PlayerOa› Fckkkkkk valencia 2-0
[20:34:39] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› midfield too imo
[20:34:42] ‹Calindu›
[20:34:46] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› midfield is shambles. we got no one
[20:34:51] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› herrera gone, matic too old no
[20:34:52] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› now*
[20:34:53] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› Scott<3
[20:34:57] ‹Guest-Phoenix-b838e› You guys are act so bad at mafia
[20:35:11] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› pogba needs to fix up a bit
[20:35:23] ‹Calindu› Pogba will leave too
[20:35:27] ‹PlayerOa› RB > RW > CB = CM
[20:35:33] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› yh, id cash in on pogba too
[20:35:39] ‹PlayerOa› If pogba leaves then CM first
[20:35:41] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[20:35:43] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› sell pogba lukaku degea, get money
[20:35:49] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› invest in youngsters
[20:35:53] ‹Mobian› Maybe short term, but if the mafia didn't kill him, everyone would accuse him of being dirty
[20:35:56] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› get deligt
[20:36:00] ‹PlayerOa› Daniel James looks interesting
[20:36:07] ‹PlayerOa› De ligt would be a dream...
[20:36:14] ‹PlayerOa› Along with Sancho
[20:36:26] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› theres a better chance now of de ligt coming to utd than before
[20:36:30] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› barca obvs still favs
[20:36:37] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› but the van de sar link will help
[20:36:48] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› and he'll be our no1 for sure
[20:36:49] ‹PlayerOa› Seems like lfc's in the race too
[20:37:09] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› cant see de ligt going to lfc
[20:37:21] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› van de sar not gonna let him XD
[20:37:40] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› if barca lose this match today, theyre gonna go hard in transfer
[20:37:43] ‹PlayerOa› :D
[20:40:15] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› hopefully that will mean barca go for mbappe and griezzmans free for us LOL
[20:41:05] ‹Calindu› I can't see barca going for mbappe
[20:41:15] ‹Calindu› No way PSG lets him go there
[20:44:41] ‹PlayerOa› It's a shame ibra got his injury
[20:48:06] ‹MasterWalks› Someone want to chat log post this monster?
[20:48:21] ‹MasterWalks› conversation has shifted to soccer
[20:51:45] ‹Mobian› When I get home
[20:52:03] ‹Calindu› Did you just call football as soccer?
[20:52:20] ‹MasterWalks› U.S.A
[20:52:21] ‹Espithel› He's not mafia, but he's certainly scum.
[20:52:25] ‹Espithel› >:(
[20:52:26] ‹MasterWalks› I like the Chivas
[20:52:39] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ew
[20:55:36] ‹Mobian› He called it soccer, I call it pointless. FITE ME
[20:55:53] ‹MasterWalks› its not pointless
[20:55:58] ‹MasterWalks› the cleats have points on them
[20:56:16] ‹Calindu› You made a powerful enemy today
[20:56:38] ‹Mobian› ROFL
[20:58:06] ‹iancudorinmarian›
[21:00:36] ‹PlayerOa› I'm with you cal
[21:02:48] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo›
[21:09:39] ‹MasterWalks› why do people have L/J on?
[21:10:42] ‹Calindu› Because I like to see when people join or leave
[21:11:57] ‹MasterWalks› it crowds it so bad tho and you can see whos here already
[21:12:04] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› news says utd very close to signing de ligt???
[21:12:10] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› why they getting my hopes up
[21:12:36] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› Really?
[21:13:04] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› idk i just googled man utd
[21:13:06] ‹PlayerOa› Edwin's at the wheel
[21:13:09] ‹PlayerOa› lol
[21:13:18] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› and first three articles said very close
[21:13:45] ‹Calindu› There's a very reputable source for that
[21:14:17] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Calindu› Which?
[21:14:29] ‹Calindu› Gerard Romero
[21:14:46] ‹Calindu› I heard he's pretty accurate for Barca news
[21:14:47] ‹PlayerOa› de Ligt has been liking an instagram post by Lukaku, lol
[21:14:49] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› on that note, bring edwin as technical director with you, de ligt
[21:15:00] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› ‹@PlayerOa› he also liked rio ferdinannds
[21:15:12] ‹Calindu› He said that de ligt got a very good offer from man utd
[21:15:15] ‹PlayerOa› Messi hits the post fml
[21:15:56] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› That's even more interesting tbh
[21:16:09] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› he'll be tested more if hes at utd, and i feel hes the kinda guy who will want that challenge. plus utd offer him more money for sure
[21:20:06] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› there arent many good RBs around this window are there?
[21:20:25] ‹PlayerOa› Wan Bissaka would be the most likely I guess
[21:20:36] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› oh yh him
[21:20:44] ‹PlayerOa› pretty solid player
[21:23:10] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› why are transfers taking so long, hurry up teams, i want to see transfer business
[21:24:27] ‹PlayerOa› ‹@Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› Chief transfer muppet
[21:25:25] ‹PlayerOa› Nah just kidding. I'd like to see some business as well, looks like they're sorting out James at least
[21:26:51] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› not just from utd, but in general
[21:27:06] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› no signings so far
[21:27:34] ‹PlayerOa› Pulisic
[21:28:24] ‹Linkcat› I'm on mobile, someone post the chat log.
[21:29:09] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› pulisic got done before tho
[21:29:26] ‹PlayerOa› Yeah fair enough
[21:29:47] ‹PlayerOa› Dortmund had a couple nice ones
[21:29:54] ‹PlayerOa› Brandt and T. Hazard
[21:30:01] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› oh yh
[21:32:01] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› seems like barca are only gonna win la liga this yr
[21:32:21] ‹PlayerOa› 2-1 gogogo
[21:32:27] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› the only thing i watched in la liga was the iago aspas story, what a guy
[21:32:28] ‹MasterWalks› Espithel
[21:32:30] ‹PlayerOa› nice jinx
[21:32:39] ‹MasterWalks› can you post since youve been here tho whole time?
[21:33:16] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› nw
[21:41:51] ‹Espithel› Post about what?
[21:42:15] ‹MasterWalks› the chat log
[21:43:12] ‹Espithel› I guess. Gimmie a sec.
[21:48:50] ‹shockcannon› lol jcj in chat
[21:48:54] ‹shockcannon› apologize to him now
[21:51:53] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b›
[21:56:04] ‹MasterWalks›
[21:58:29] ‹vagman13› aaw por jcj :(
[21:58:48] ‹JonathanCrazyJ› So much Amusement
[21:59:08] ‹kaempfer13› ‹@JonathanCrazyJ› Its just not meant to be
[22:00:00] ‹JonathanCrazyJ› Wish could say more
[22:00:18] ‹Espithel› ‹@JonathanCrazyJ› See you in forum brawl?
[22:00:55] ‹JonathanCrazyJ› 😘
[22:01:08] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› you can say more to me
[22:01:10] ‹Guest-Chrysaora-9ce35› im not playing
[22:03:48] ‹vagman13› you arsefaces lynching jcjc, i said when in doubt , always lynch ian :sillyspin:

Ill try to summarize as best I can.

Pre jcj Lynch
moe talks about ian not being as active in the thread. ian says he has nothing to contribute. ddevans starts asking how people would feel if we lynch certain people, notably jcj and MW. Back and forth about not having much scum reads between all member involved. Some discussion on how the least active people on the thread are pretty smart so not to make quick assumptions based on activity. dd points out the strongest scum read is on espithel followed by ian. Small consensus on how lynching ian wont bring much info. ddevan states we should lynch either MW or jcj and before deadline. mobian states he wants a no lynch; back and forth on how lynching/not lynching gives information. Lots of haste is followed as there is 20min left on timer and town is at tied vote. Here you can look through forums to see how the timer was extended. Discussion on what roles block NK, mostly focused on ward. Speculation on how there was no kill on N0, mostly looking at which roles it could've been and which ones have the highest chance. moe questions dd and ian about jcj votes, responded mostly with its a hunch. Some final discussion on lynch/no lynch information topic

Post jcj lynch
Speculation on if jcj was the one targeted for NK and how he may have protected himself. MW and espi discussing MW's request for espi to be roleblocked. Mobian speculates some bussing going on between espi and MW. More discussion on lynch/no lynch pros and cons. Some minor discussion on if ddevans wouldve been a better lynch than jcj. Some back and forth on what GA can actually block and what it cant. Some people and their roles speculation follows, mostly to nothing concrete. Bunch of BS with non mafia members follows for a while. ian posts about mobian and mobian fiercely defends himself for a moment. After this, conversation starts moving to Football (pronounced Soccer)with no new conversation that hasnt already been talked about before.


This is as neutral and simplified as i can make it.

TL:DR Yea not much for info here really. Mostly just role discussion and scum reads.

Did i miss anything important?
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289823#msg1289823
« Reply #332 on: May 25, 2019, 10:09:27 pm »
Now, say it like Luis from AntMan.

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289824#msg1289824
« Reply #333 on: May 25, 2019, 10:16:53 pm »
ian is more reckless this time around. He was ultra concentrated last game. Making long term game plans, calculated votes, etc. Thats why he got a ton of votes for best player. This round his reasoning for lynch was a hunch. He doesnt appear to be gameplanning all that much. He not espithel sus but i think its worth closely watching him.
Except I did make a long term plan on N0 on how to protect the Golden Nymph. And except I had concrete plans later in the game last mafia and I was still voting based on my hunch up until there were very few people left. And except I just revealed a plan I made to make mafia (Mobian) slip up.

You're not reading me very well at all.

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289825#msg1289825
« Reply #334 on: May 25, 2019, 10:21:35 pm »
ian is more reckless this time around. He was ultra concentrated last game. Making long term game plans, calculated votes, etc. Thats why he got a ton of votes for best player. This round his reasoning for lynch was a hunch. He doesnt appear to be gameplanning all that much. He not espithel sus but i think its worth closely watching him.
Except I did make a long term plan on N0 on how to protect the Golden Nymph. And except I had concrete plans later in the game last mafia and I was still voting based on my hunch up until there were very few people left. And except I just revealed a plan I made to make mafia (Mobian) slip up.

You're not reading me very well at all.

As adorable as your blame game is, try paying attention. Several others voiced that opinion in the chat as well. It's awfully scummy of you to shine a light on me simply for voicing it in chat out of frustration at the "meta" strategy.

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289826#msg1289826
« Reply #335 on: May 25, 2019, 10:23:45 pm »
TBH Mobian doesnt appear to have the confidence he had when he was mafia. I would know as i had allied with him last game. HOWEVER I WILL NOT DEFEND HIM after what he did to me last time. I'm just not getting mafia read from him (granted i didnt when he actually was mafia last time)
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