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Who played the best mafia?

iancudorinmarian
0 (0%)
Linkcat
9 (15.5%)
PlayerOa
0 (0%)
JonathanCrazyJ
0 (0%)
immortal_feud
0 (0%)
kaempfer13
9 (15.5%)
ddevans96
8 (13.8%)
dawn to dusk
0 (0%)
InsignificantWeeaboo
0 (0%)
Espithel
4 (6.9%)
MasterWalks
1 (1.7%)
Mobian
1 (1.7%)
mathman101
0 (0%)
RootRanger
6 (10.3%)
shockcannon
6 (10.3%)
Ginyu
9 (15.5%)
Calindu
5 (8.6%)
moehrpi
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 19

Voting closed: June 24, 2019, 11:12:55 am

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289774#msg1289774
« Reply #288 on: May 25, 2019, 04:41:14 pm »
[17:32:14] ‹Espithel› ‹@moehrpi› Sure. Until we know who a single mafia is, a lot of our information is weak because nothing's certain.
[17:32:33] ‹Espithel› Once we get the first lynch, we can look at how other people reacted to that mafia.
[17:33:06] ‹moehrpi› ‹@Espithel› That makes a lot of sense. I actually just misread.
[17:33:28] ‹moehrpi› I thought about the first Nightkill. Somehow I missed 'lynch'...
[17:33:49] ‹moehrpi› Thanks for clearing that up. :flinch:
[17:34:43] ‹Espithel› Another truism is that if we've got one scum, we can look at previous nightkills to try and see why the mafia killed those people. Maybe they said something another mafia member didn't like?
[17:35:46] ‹Espithel› We can't really do that until we've got one kill because of the good old toxic townie motif: I'm defending Walks super, super hard, for example. So if I flip scum, it's going to look real, real bad on him.
[17:35:58] ‹Espithel› Ditto cal/kae.
[17:36:26] ‹Espithel› Sometimes, the mafia like to use that to try and make somebody look scummy.


Also note that I didn't suggest an inactivity lynch. Evans seems pretty certain that there's one scum who hasn't voted.
The pool of people who haven't voted is pretty small. So if we lynch from there (randomly or educated), we have a better chance of killing scum than a random lynch. (All bad arguments for lynching have the same probability as a random lynch of killing someone, imo.)

That was the train of thought. Criticise it how you will.

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289775#msg1289775
« Reply #289 on: May 25, 2019, 05:11:05 pm »
Evans seems pretty certain that there's one scum who hasn't voted.

I've said the opposite - I think it is most likely all the mafia voted prior to me waking up yesterday.

3 hours left, and I want to make sure there's not going to be a no-lynch day. Does this make me look scummy? Maybe.

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289776#msg1289776
« Reply #290 on: May 25, 2019, 05:13:00 pm »
MW - neutral
JCJ - slightly scummy. He seems to have changed his mind *again* towards the D1 lynch vs D1 no-lynch.

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289778#msg1289778
« Reply #291 on: May 25, 2019, 05:31:55 pm »
Espithel (1) - MasterWalks
MasterWalks (2) - kaempfer13, JonathanCrazyJ
dawn to dusk (1) - mathman101
JonathanCrazyJ (2) - moehrpi, RootRanger
iancudorinmarian (1) - shockcannon
ddevans96 (5) - Linkcat, InsignificantWeeaboo, Calindu, iancudorinmarian, Mobian
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289779#msg1289779
« Reply #292 on: May 25, 2019, 05:32:27 pm »
Espithel (1) - MasterWalks
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Given MW and jcj, I would also rather lynch jcj rn, so I'm moving my vote - we're discussing our best lynch target in chat at present.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289780#msg1289780
« Reply #293 on: May 25, 2019, 05:32:44 pm »
Ninja'd, add Mobian's vote to the above.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289781#msg1289781
« Reply #294 on: May 25, 2019, 05:33:52 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289782#msg1289782
« Reply #295 on: May 25, 2019, 05:35:18 pm »
I really dont want to see dd or link lynched right now. These are both experienced players and if they were mafia, it would be insanely hard to tell this early, they play smarter than that. Whats the scum read on dd right now? The ones i have read seem pretty shallow. Because he made it sound like only me and espi are lynchable? I was the first to vote and i showed confidence in my decision, ofc either of us are the most plausible lynch at the time.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289783#msg1289783
« Reply #296 on: May 25, 2019, 05:37:09 pm »
Evans seems pretty certain that there's one scum who hasn't voted.

I've said the opposite - I think it is most likely all the mafia voted prior to me waking up yesterday.

I derped. Link said that.

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289784#msg1289784
« Reply #297 on: May 25, 2019, 05:50:45 pm »
Iancu, please EBWOP to include my vote.

I've been watching this without much commentary, mostly because I still don't know all of you that well. So until I have a better read on people, I feel going with the majority is best for me. The ideal situation for me would have been to be absolutely sure, and I was considering using my vote to throw a null lynch, but given how the majority of you feel about that, I didn't want to give off the wrong impression and make you think I was mafia again. I truly hope we're making the right play on ddevans, but at this point, I suppose it can't be helped. Please bear in mind this is only my second game of mafia, and I don't want my inexperience to come out as scum.

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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289785#msg1289785
« Reply #298 on: May 25, 2019, 05:51:56 pm »
Can we migrate all these votes? JCJ and dd are really not good targets. JCJ is moving and typing form a damn phone. dd is too experienced to outs himself as a mafia this early. Like really, almost anyone but these 2 would be better.
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Re: Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67178.msg1289786#msg1289786
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Iancu, please EBWOP to include my vote.

Your vote is included in his most recent post.
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