Elements Mafia 71 - by Submachine

[Linkcat]

Spoiler for chat log:

The way you worded your post implies that you are scumreading someone who is "rooting for something under the guise of it being good for town," but you don't want to name them directly. In my view, the only people it makes sense for you to be throwing shade at are me or (looking back through the thread) MW, since we're the only ones who disagreed with you and everyone else. If not me, then who were you throwing shade at? If you say nobody, then your post doesn't make sense.

And while I'm mentioning MW's post,

2.) We also need to hold off on using roleblocking/kill roles.

I agree with everything except this part. Last game, mafia had a psion. If mafia has another role revealing ability, potentially blocking them will slow mafia down a bunch. Late game we can get strategical with it.

One thing that i would add is dont try to subliminally role reveal. Its what got GN killed last game. So dont put an element mark in a post or something like that.

I want to say that DC did not soft GN with the time mark, he did that because he is a former Master of Time. Mafia read him as GN for two things he did that were not related to his role, and got lucky that he was actually GN.

[Coffeeditto]

The way you worded your post implies that you are scumreading someone who is "rooting for something under the guise of it being good for town," but you don't want to name them directly. In my view, the only people it makes sense for you to be throwing shade at are me or (looking back through the thread) MW, since we're the only ones who disagreed with you and everyone else. If not me, then who were you throwing shade at? If you say nobody, then your post doesn't make sense.

I said to be wary; I have no scumreads right now. That comment was a light stab for us to be careful submitting to plans that have downsides for town.

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People I disagree with aren't wrong.

[Submachine]

Here is the anticipated clarification about Firefly Queen:

• Queen can be blocked by Psionic Wave.
• Queen can target players who are untargetable (e.g: Burrowed).
• Fireflies do not see their own activity, but they can see other fireflies by different queens.
• Fireflies only see abilities that were successfully activated.

[kaempfer13]

So basically 2 coordinated ffqs can prevent their fireflies from ever being detected? Or does only the Initial deployment of the firefly count as activation?

[Submachine]

So basically 2 coordinated ffqs can prevent their fireflies from ever being detected? Or does only the Initial deployment of the firefly count as activation?

If two Firefly Queens target the same player with Queen, the fireflies will report Queen to their own Firefly Queens, which would otherwise not happen. Surely that would also count as being detected.

[kaempfer13]

Yh but they never ever go away and report every night

[Submachine]

Yh but they never ever go away and report every night

I missed to clarify that. The fireflies only visit their targets for one night, then they either return to the queen or get caught.

[iancudorinmarian]

Generate a firefly that follows target player. The fireflies will report back to you each Night with all abilities that they saw activated

The wording makes it seem fireflies are permanent.

[Submachine]

It's then Linkcat who didn't clarify this role enough. I will wait for his response.

[iancudorinmarian]

inb4 "Linkcat has been modkilled"

[shockcannon]

Y'all talk too much. I'll eat the next person to post if it's not Submachine.

[InsignificantWeeaboo]

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