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Who played the best mafia?

JonathanCrazyJ
5 (11.4%)
InsignificantWeeaboo
0 (0%)
shockcannon
5 (11.4%)
dawn to dusk
2 (4.5%)
Coffeeditto
0 (0%)
DoubleCapitals
2 (4.5%)
iancudorinmarian
9 (20.5%)
Submachine
9 (20.5%)
MasterWalks
0 (0%)
Naii_the_Baf
0 (0%)
Mobian
2 (4.5%)
PlayerOa
3 (6.8%)
mathman101
5 (11.4%)
NoobRanger
2 (4.5%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Voting closed: May 20, 2019, 05:38:38 am

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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288116#msg1288116
« Reply #120 on: April 21, 2019, 12:29:38 am »
Mobian (1) - DoubleCapitals
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changed my mind again. Lets take Root to the gallows!

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[17:14:22] ‹MasterWalks› what is the purpose of lynching root? to see if hes lying? if he is, we may have just lynched a valuable ability. If he isnt, all we did is shut him up; and he's not even talking much lol. isnt it a wasted lynch at this point?
[17:16:04] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Personally, I am not sending Root any information until he's dead
[17:16:28] ‹dawn_to_dusk› And I strongly advise others to do the same
[17:17:11] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Aside from maybe stuff like Firefly
[17:17:24] ‹MasterWalks› at this point, i dont trust (almsot) anybody enough to share information
[17:17:49] ‹dawn_to_dusk› If Root dies, we can send information though
[17:18:30] ‹dawn_to_dusk› The whole point of the plan is to get information to someone who can make use of it
[17:19:23] ‹dawn_to_dusk› With the amount of informative roles, Root will get a lot of information very quickly
[17:20:28] ‹MasterWalks› thats only one vote that we influence. If i read the rules right, he cant use his vote to communicate.
[17:21:44] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Sure, but it would be the most educated vote in the game
[17:22:08] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Honestly we can No Lynch until Root votes for someone
[17:22:21] ‹MasterWalks› how is that enforced? If we gave him a ton of info, and he votes to lynch, what is stopping us from just following suit with his vote?
[17:22:25] ‹dawn_to_dusk› And be 100% certain they're mafia
[17:22:28] ‹dawn_to_dusk› But that plan is too risky
[17:22:44] ‹dawn_to_dusk› ‹@MasterWalks› Nothing, that's the point
[17:22:51] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Town can't make Root break the rules
[17:22:58] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Phoenix, rather
[17:23:04] ‹MasterWalks› oh pfft, lets hang root then
[17:23:08] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Since there is still speculation about it
[17:23:27] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Root can receive pm's but cannot send them
[17:23:33] ‹MasterWalks› thats fine
[17:24:06] ‹MasterWalks› i was thinking it would be a rule breaker if root votes and we all just vote what he votes on since in a sense, that is communication through vote
[17:24:31] ‹dawn_to_dusk› He is allowed 1 post, that post may only be a vote, and town cannot set up a thing of "Vote twice if someone is Firefly" or something
[17:24:52] ‹dawn_to_dusk› I think Link said it best
[17:24:54] ‹MasterWalks› ahh i see
[17:25:07] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Let me get the quote, I've been pestering him a lot about the limits to this
[17:25:41] ‹dawn_to_dusk› [01:47:13] ‹Linkcat› They can say, "Ash voted for rob twice so he must be mafia." They can't say "Ash, vote for rob twice if he's mafia."
[17:26:30] ‹MasterWalks› i see. that makes sense. So yea insig is right, its basically a win win
[17:26:39] ‹dawn_to_dusk› http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game... It's at the bottom of this post
[17:27:17] ‹dawn_to_dusk› I mean it does mean we kill a town instead of someone who could be mafia, but it's the best of the worst
[17:27:42] ‹MasterWalks› well we have no public information that anyone could be mafia
[17:27:44] ‹dawn_to_dusk› And with Vulture, mafia Pharaoh to kill a priority role is a terrible idea
[17:28:06] ‹MasterWalks› so yea i agree, root is the best option we have
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288117#msg1288117
« Reply #121 on: April 21, 2019, 12:30:57 am »
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288118#msg1288118
« Reply #122 on: April 21, 2019, 12:33:00 am »

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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288121#msg1288121
« Reply #123 on: April 21, 2019, 06:05:14 am »
1) As a hypothetical mafia with this group of people, I will 1 for 1 mafia for GN.

2)

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shockcannon (1) - MasterWalks

Root has pharaoh. He plans on getting his very own cop kill. Turning himself into ash does nothing strategic.

Shock is mafia.
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[14:26:08] ‹MasterWalks› alright guys, shock is mafia.
[14:27:35] ‹MasterWalks› in his first post he claims he has GA (kinda). This would mean the town wouldnt want to lynch him. But that would make him a target for NK, but he cant get targeted by NK cuz he is already mafia
[14:28:50] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› How do you know he is not a grabboid or an ant lion though?
[14:29:08] ‹MasterWalks› http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game...
[14:29:18] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› Both of those are untargetable during night also. For both abilities and NK.
[14:30:14] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› He doesnt claim angel there. He just questions about its claiming for strategic purposes.
[14:30:56] ‹MasterWalks› no, but he implies it
[14:31:31] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› No he doesnt. He is asking for strategic purposes for whoever else is the angel.
[14:32:00] ‹MasterWalks› impling he has GA would make him a def target for NK. If he had grabby, he saved the town by getting NK targeted to him, but i dont think he was able to come up with that strategy in his first mafia game
[14:32:11] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› All of us know shock to ask the oddball questions up front, he has actually done angel a favour and saved them not having to ask it themselves.
[14:32:40] ‹MasterWalks› well, no one gave him a straight answer
[14:33:26] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› Why would we this early though? No one can trust anyone else yet as we are all still figuring out who is mafia with the little to no info we have.
[14:33:31] ‹InsignificantWeeaboo› ‹@MasterWalks› He did reveal he was SC.
[14:34:37] ‹MasterWalks› i dont believe that one bit.
[14:34:47] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› ‹@InsignificantWeeaboo› Where does he claim S.cat.?
[14:34:55] ‹MasterWalks› he is just diverting attention
[14:35:08] ‹MasterWalks› ‹@Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game...
[14:35:17] ‹MasterWalks› wait wrong one
[14:35:33] ‹MasterWalks› http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game...
[14:35:44] ‹MasterWalks› that link shows he claims SC
[14:37:40] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› Hmm, I feel like most people saying that would be just trying to divert attention.
[14:38:05] ‹MasterWalks› exactly
[14:38:26] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› But for some reason I think shock has that creative mindset that would allow him to actually do that though.
[14:38:57] ‹Guest-GiantFrog-c080b› It is a risky plan, and most likely a waste since it is only a OU skill
[14:39:16] ‹MasterWalks› well its working. no one has mentioned shock since that post and we already have 8 votes on root.

I think shock seems more dumb town than mafia.
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288123#msg1288123
« Reply #124 on: April 21, 2019, 07:45:57 am »
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[15:34:32] ‹Guest-MinorPhoenix-cfa05› Dumb town your face Dc

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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288124#msg1288124
« Reply #125 on: April 21, 2019, 07:48:48 am »
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288126#msg1288126
« Reply #126 on: April 21, 2019, 05:07:54 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288141#msg1288141
« Reply #127 on: April 22, 2019, 01:03:32 am »
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obligatory Easter Weekend AFK post, but after the fact. My bad.

I'm a strong proponent for lynching Root, because he has to be Pharoah or Phoenix if he is asking to be lynched. Even if he's maf and flips either one, we've still lynched a maf. This is what needs to happen.

...and I'm arguing for no reason, because it's not likely to flip so suddenly near the end of the phase.
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288142#msg1288142
« Reply #128 on: April 22, 2019, 01:52:42 am »
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[11:19:48] ‹dawn_to_dusk› 15 players, 4 haven't voted
[11:20:01] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Graboid, unless it Evolved, is one of those 4
[11:20:30] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Which is why I wanted people to stop voting
[11:20:34] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Can't do anything about it now though
[11:21:44] ‹Coffeeditto› oh.
[11:21:46] ‹Coffeeditto› my bad
[11:22:31] ‹dawn_to_dusk› No worries
[11:25:20] ‹Coffeeditto› I'd like to think that Kuro is pulling the long con and is actually faking AFK as graboid
[11:26:03] ‹dawn_to_dusk› I mean at this stage, Mafia might already know anyway
[11:29:29] ‹Coffeeditto› that's neither here nor there IMO
[11:33:07] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Alternatively, they could know which ability it was that stopped them
[11:33:13] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Tbh Mafia has a lot of information right now
[11:33:46] ‹dawn_to_dusk› So what can we gain from that information
[11:34:40] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Might make a post on it
[11:37:30] ‹Coffeeditto› What we think the mafia knows is...
[11:37:59] ‹Coffeeditto› Either that whoever they targeted was protected or something
[11:38:07] ‹Coffeeditto› unless they no killed
[11:38:11] ‹Coffeeditto› and that's just mind games
[11:38:21] ‹Coffeeditto› and kind of dumb.
[11:38:50] ‹Coffeeditto› We know that they know who the Phoenix is if Root's being truthful, which he has no reason not to be
[11:39:19] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Or inactivity
[11:39:30] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Which is why Kuro is kind of suspicious
[11:39:49] ‹Coffeeditto› Who hasn't posted at all so far?
[11:39:55] ‹Coffeeditto› Kuro and
[11:40:01] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Just Kuro
[11:40:33] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Also maybe Fabian
[11:41:15] ‹dawn_to_dusk› "Currently participating in a contest, out of town until Tuesday. Activity might be low or null. No viable computer for serious discussion. I am reading every now and then, though."
[11:41:29] ‹Coffeeditto› what are the rules on inactivity for that sort of thing?
[11:41:51] ‹dawn_to_dusk› I don't think there are any
[11:42:09] ‹Linkcat› The rules are whatever I say they are.
[11:42:26] ‹Coffeeditto› thanks Link
[11:42:27] ‹Coffeeditto› anyway
[11:42:28] ‹Coffeeditto› 8. If you do not post for three consecutive phases, you will be modkilled.
[11:43:09] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Ah
[11:43:15] ‹Coffeeditto› Link, can one mafia send in a kill if not all members verify it?
[11:44:08] ‹Linkcat› Yes.
[11:44:51] ‹dawn_to_dusk› So there is a definite chance, though it is small, that Mafia just didn't send in a kill
[11:45:14] ‹Coffeeditto› do we know how many members of the mafia there are in this iteration?
[11:45:21] ‹Coffeeditto› yeah, it's definitely possible
[11:45:36] ‹dawn_to_dusk› 3
[11:45:58] ‹Coffeeditto› oh yeah
[11:46:05] ‹Coffeeditto› it says it right there in the first night post
[11:46:25] ‹Coffeeditto› okay. say that both kuro and Fabian are maf
[11:46:34] ‹Mobian› Think we're lucky enough for all the mafia members to be inactives?
[11:46:49] ‹Coffeeditto› there's a third person who didn't send in the kill if it was truly an inactive kill
[11:46:53] ‹Coffeeditto› or lack thereof
[11:46:54] ‹dawn_to_dusk› It's super unlikely
[11:46:56] ‹Linkcat› I didn't roll any mafia. Everyone's town and I'm just going to laugh as you all kill each other for no reason.
[11:47:06] ‹Coffeeditto› I don't think so. it seems pretty damn unlikely
[11:47:13] ‹Mobian› That would be hilarious
[11:47:19] ‹dawn_to_dusk› I think we're done here folks
[11:47:21] ‹dawn_to_dusk› Link confessed
[11:47:23] ‹Coffeeditto› what an awful fate

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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288144#msg1288144
« Reply #129 on: April 22, 2019, 06:25:00 am »
Night 1

Spoiler for Lore:
Are you ready? Are you ready for this?

RootRanger was lynched. He was an Elemental and a Phoenix.

RootRanger was reborn as an Ash.

The only way you may communicate privately with an Ash is by sending them a forum pm that contains only plain text. Do not try to get an Ash to break the rules by using their vote to communicate. The Ash will only vote on who they think should be lynched. The Phoenix role will not be used in future mafias because it's a pain in the ass.

Night 1 has ended.
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« Reply #130 on: April 22, 2019, 06:38:10 am »
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Re: Elements Mafia 70 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67101.msg1288148#msg1288148
« Reply #131 on: April 22, 2019, 10:43:23 am »
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