Elements Mafia 68 - by Kuroaitou

[Solaris]

aw fuck

I'm gonna be short with you, here. This reads like a maf trying to look town.

[DoubleCapitals]

Time for me death post. Usually I'd say something relevant but yet useless

But now I'll say something irrelevant instead

Kuro ya better watch ya ass out, I'm coming for ya in the next Trials! >

[killsdazombies]

aw fuck

I'm gonna be short with you, here. This reads like a maf trying to look town.

I kinda agree, the content itself is sketchy, and the tone makes it feel even worse

[Solaris]

reflected after sleeping, i'm pretty much only more certain

[Submachine]

I will vote to save myself as I'm the Doctor,  I've soft claimed it a heck of a lot.

I actually called that!

But this just makes it even worse that he missed my directed message to protect ddevans RIGHT AFTER he posted in the thread:

@kdz: ddevans was confirmed by Linkcat's 2nd ability supposedly. I think he's second most townie after UTA currently. You were just afk for a few days, wanted to share in case it's new info.

Kdz is either not Doctor, which i assumed he to be, or he's neglecting his duties to protect dd.

Now that I'm actually a credible source of information, I'm sure to be the next nightkill target.

[Solaris]

Now that I'm actually a credible source of information, I'm sure to be the next nightkill target.

what lol

[rob77dp]

I find it hard to believe that town!Coffee doesn't get some push one of the last couple days by Criminals... He has been scumread and voted to mid-range lynch-territory more than once but never was lynched. Combining this with the Luna/Coffee stuff (which I find hard to believe that a Criminal!Luna did the take-a-town-down-with-her fancy-play move some have posited) I have a growing scumread of Coffee.

I want to read some alternative takes on why Criminals would let Luna eat a lynch if town!Coffee is sitting there scumread by active players AND is the BG. It just doesn't make sense to me _unless_ Coffee is Criminal.

[Solaris]

crim coffee is the only world that makes sense to me now, the "aw fuck" seemed way too hard of an emotional appeal that wasn't necessary to try and give towny vibes because he knew he was under scrutiny from a few.

[JonathanCrazyJ]

Yeah, I am starting to feel fairly confident UTA is intel given his wanting a mass roleclaim. Also, his plan of keeping coffee alive regardless of alignment is kind of genius, because it keep HIM alive, but doesn't necessarily stop the mafia's endgame, as they know who NOT to attack.

Lynching coffee next day sounds good to me.

[Solaris]

killsdazombies (2) - robdp77, Solaris
Submachine (1) - mathman101
DoubleCapitals (4) - UTAlan, JonathanCrazyJ, killsdazombies, Coffeeditto

In the interest of preservation of KDZ. Still think a Sub lynch is a better idea.

in that world, this post is interesting to me, especially since KDZ hardclaims Doctor beforehand.

Now, you may be thinking "But Solaris! Doctor save townies! Doctor good!"

Doctor isn't faction locked. A doctor that controls the nightkill can afford to "protect" targets who won't get hit by the NK (YMMV on things like Hitman, they exist but honestly aren't the most threatening thing if town is holding them and using properly), and get town vibes for it... without actually helping town, aside from the Hitman addendum.

I'm pretty sure the Coffee/KDZ criminal world is the world we live in. And these are the hands we're given.

[Solaris]

To add to my earlier argument actually, it would be unwise for a maf to cling to their partner and constantly call them innocent. An argument against this could be, "Why did you scumread Lu then?" Because she was scummy.

WIFOM here doesn't help anything, tell it like it is, don't go for the "it would be unwise for a maf to cling to their partner and constantly call them innocent."

[rob77dp]

When was the last time Coffee pushed an original scumread of his?

When was the last time kdz pushed an original scumread of his?