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Re: Elements Mafia 20 - Hosted by RavingRabbid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg353521#msg353521
« Reply #456 on: June 19, 2011, 07:07:47 am »
I was gonna write more but meh no point really... Every turn seer + shrieker + afk FGs = easy civ win!

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Re: Elements Mafia 20 - Hosted by RavingRabbid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg353561#msg353561
« Reply #457 on: June 19, 2011, 12:02:19 pm »
Quote from: 1world24 link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg365079#msg365079 date=1306459819
if not, tstar and ss are probably mafia
my quote was right and nice job with the civilian win.

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Re: Elements Mafia 20 - Hosted by RavingRabbid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg353562#msg353562
« Reply #458 on: June 19, 2011, 12:06:09 pm »
I just want to know, what tipped me off as an FG to you guys?
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Re: Elements Mafia 20 - Hosted by RavingRabbid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg353766#msg353766
« Reply #459 on: June 19, 2011, 10:24:45 pm »
Can't remember. I think you were simply suspicous as the maker of the group, while also voting with Jaymanfu and Korugar when I started a bandwagon on Jaymanfu(here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26590.msg369944#msg369944)).

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Re: Elements Mafia 20 - Hosted by RavingRabbid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg353772#msg353772
« Reply #460 on: June 19, 2011, 10:39:15 pm »
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I just want to know, what tipped me off as an FG to you guys?
I was already suspicious of you for bringing so many people into the alliance, and after I left I told Onizuka why exactly I left, and he agreed with me. After that Root tipped me off even further.
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Re: Elements Mafia 20 - Hosted by RavingRabbid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg353774#msg353774
« Reply #461 on: June 19, 2011, 10:41:03 pm »
Quote from: Shantu link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg378177#msg378177 date=1308522285
Can't remember. I think you were simply suspicous as the maker of the group, while also voting with Jaymanfu and Korugar when I started a bandwagon on Jaymanfu(here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26590.msg369944#msg369944)).

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Technically, I started the group, just put him in charge because of the suspicions being rested upon my shoulders.

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Re: Elements Mafia 20 - Hosted by RavingRabbid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg353875#msg353875
« Reply #462 on: June 20, 2011, 02:10:31 am »
Quote from: 918273645 link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg378186#msg378186 date=1308523263
Quote from: Shantu link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg378177#msg378177 date=1308522285
Can't remember. I think you were simply suspicous as the maker of the group, while also voting with Jaymanfu and Korugar when I started a bandwagon on Jaymanfu(here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26590.msg369944#msg369944)).

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Technically, I started the group, just put him in charge because of the suspicions being rested upon my shoulders.
I was told to have you do the exact same thing, but once you told me to do it, I wasn't going to refuse.
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Re: Elements Mafia 20 - Hosted by RavingRabbid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg353906#msg353906
« Reply #463 on: June 20, 2011, 03:01:06 am »
Quote from: 1world24 link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg377970#msg377970 date=1308484939
Quote from: 1world24 link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg365079#msg365079 date=1306459819
if not, tstar and ss are probably mafia
my quote was right and nice job with the civilian win.
Except I wasn't mafia so your quote wasn't right at all.  In fact, I thought up the little Shrieker/Crusader trick (as did others independently as well) and used it to get myself confirmed and into the Seer's group.  I was also able to get the Doctor to identify himself to me before I died so I could pair him up with the Seer.  I may not have lasted all that long but I accomplished what I wanted to so I'm happy with my death and my performance in this Mafia.
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Re: Elements Mafia 20 - Hosted by RavingRabbid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg354045#msg354045
« Reply #464 on: June 20, 2011, 02:23:27 pm »
Quote from: TStar link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg378306#msg378306 date=1308538866
Quote from: 1world24 link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg377970#msg377970 date=1308484939
Quote from: 1world24 link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg365079#msg365079 date=1306459819
if not, tstar and ss are probably mafia
my quote was right and nice job with the civilian win.
Except I wasn't mafia so your quote wasn't right at all.  In fact, I thought up the little Shrieker/Crusader trick (as did others independently as well) and used it to get myself confirmed and into the Seer's group.  I was also able to get the Doctor to identify himself to me before I died so I could pair him up with the Seer.  I may not have lasted all that long but I accomplished what I wanted to so I'm happy with my death and my performance in this Mafia.
Sorry about that part,when i checked the mafia chat after the end of the game,I wasn't sure if you were mafia since you were in there discussions and stuff

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Re: Elements Mafia 20 - Hosted by RavingRabbid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg354068#msg354068
« Reply #465 on: June 20, 2011, 03:27:10 pm »
Okay, here's where I explain why my voting pattern was seemed so stupid. We had a plan, to frame me as an FG vulture. That turn, SS had Wyrm, so he doubled jay's(then the actual vulture) voting power, so he could deal with whatever he needed. So...we kill majofa, I look like a vulture, and everyone votes for me next round. If we were capable of making the vulture's vote big enough, we'd continue with that strategy, jay and I voting for the same person constantly. If it wouldn't work, I'd suicide on someone(probably ddevans) and the only vote not negated would be jay's, so he would get another kill in.

The only real weakness to this plan, would have been con artists, fallen elves, and crusaders. So, I have a question for jippy, why were you so adamant about not killing them?

Anyway, what went wrong(besides you killing jippy)? Well...jay switched his vote to me(I guess no one had told him the plan yet, that's where our lack of planning killed us). That, in and of it self, could be remedied by him switching his vote back. So...I sent him a couple frantic messages to that effect. Well...the site said he was online, and I still didn't get a response(I learned later that there was a good reason for this, but at the time I thought he was just ignoring me). So...I sent a message to jippy. He was a crusader at the time. I asked him to trade with jay when day was near it's end, if he hadn't switched his vote back by then. Way I figured it, we'd still have our vulture and virus, and could perhaps salvage something. And the crusader would be gone. Anyway...something went wrong, I don't know what. That's my other question for jippy. Did you miss the part where I said "when the day is almost over"?

So anyway, that's what happened. As has been already said, it was mostly negligence by more than one of us, but now you know(some of) the specifics. And that's why I was voting like that, ddevans ;)

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Re: Elements Mafia 20 - Hosted by RavingRabbid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg354090#msg354090
« Reply #466 on: June 20, 2011, 04:48:02 pm »
You guys were just too organized(you got in touch really fast). In previous mafias, the seer always managed to get himself killed fast(talking to an FG while cooling down, finding too many FGs and coming out too soon, and plain old bad luck).

Quote from: 918273645 link=topic=http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg378186#msg378186 date=1308523263
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Can't remember. I think you were simply suspicous as the maker of the group, while also voting with Jaymanfu and Korugar when I started a bandwagon on Jaymanfu(here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26590.msg369944#msg369944)).

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Technically, I started the group, just put him in charge because of the suspicions being rested upon my shoulders.
I guess when i told jippy that he was supposed to leave someone else in charge of the group, i had it right.

Ironically, it seems like i was the only one with a good cover(considering how bad i started). Tstar made me laugh pretty much(he really seemed convinced, it is a shame DD was in the radars at that same time).
I was pretty much playing alone(you didnt see me moving a finger for my fellow FG's life), and it was the best way to go(once i was out there against so many confirmed civys and the seer it was a matter of time anyway, but i actually made it that far).

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Re: Elements Mafia 20 - Hosted by RavingRabbid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26590.msg354137#msg354137
« Reply #467 on: June 20, 2011, 07:04:35 pm »
I traded jay literally 5 minutes before the round ended.  Im not sure what difference it would have made though.
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