Poll

Another test.

Now you see me.
7 (53.8%)
Now you don't.
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Can you view poll results without voting?

Yes.
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No.
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Poll.

Answer 1.
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Answer 2.
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Public polls not having an option to view votes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56675.msg1166687#msg1166687
« on: November 18, 2014, 11:08:34 am »
Here I'm adding a public poll, where the poll results should be visible for everyone without even voting. (The "Show the poll's results to anyone." checkbox is selected.)
However, the "View Results" button, which used to be there, is not there anymore.
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Re: Public polls not having an option to view votes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56675.msg1166689#msg1166689
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2014, 11:11:11 am »
I believe results will become public once the poll ends? Maybe bring the time earlier to test.
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Re: Public polls not having an option to view votes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56675.msg1166690#msg1166690
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2014, 11:12:29 am »
This is not a timed poll, so it never ends.
The problem is there for both polls with and without countdown, but I clearly remember that the "View Results" button existed some weeks ago.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2014, 11:15:15 am by Submachine »
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Re: Public polls not having an option to view votes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56675.msg1166695#msg1166695
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2014, 11:30:49 am »
Tested it, and indeed. The option to show results to anyone is now treated as the option to show results after someone has voted. Even a mod can't see the results without voting.

The view results button was present during Trials Phase 3, aye. It's been a while since I've last seen it, but I'd thought it was intentional.
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Re: Public polls not having an option to view votes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56675.msg1166699#msg1166699
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2014, 12:14:58 pm »
It's been a while since I've last seen it, but I'd thought it was intentional.

But if it was intentionally changed, I request to give that option back to us. :(
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Re: Public polls not having an option to view votes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56675.msg1166700#msg1166700
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2014, 12:16:31 pm »
Then this leads to the issue of people being biased based on previous votes. Say Joe is voting. He sees that Person A has 5 votes, and Person B has 10 votes. Joe is now much more likely to favor Person B when looking at the whatever they submitted.
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Re: Public polls not having an option to view votes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56675.msg1166703#msg1166703
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2014, 12:18:50 pm »
Then this leads to the issue of people being biased based on previous votes. Say Joe is voting. He sees that Person A has 5 votes, and Person B has 10 votes. Joe is now much more likely to favor Person B when looking at the whatever they submitted.

There are other options possible for polls, which remove this bias (see my post above). The viewable results before voting would be used for other purposes.
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Re: Public polls not having an option to view votes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56675.msg1166706#msg1166706
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2014, 12:24:24 pm »
Then this leads to the issue of people being biased based on previous votes. Say Joe is voting. He sees that Person A has 5 votes, and Person B has 10 votes. Joe is now much more likely to favor Person B when looking at the whatever they submitted.
Those polls are private polls, but my topic is about public polls. (for example when we ask people where do they live. This can't cause bias.)
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Re: Public polls not having an option to view votes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56675.msg1166720#msg1166720
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2014, 03:00:23 pm »
Yep, I didn't see it either. Strange. If this is intentional, I agree it should be restored.
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Re: Public polls not having an option to view votes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56675.msg1166748#msg1166748
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2014, 07:59:16 pm »
Watching the votes before voting makes the voting influenced by the majorities and that's just not the point of the voting.
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Re: Public polls not having an option to view votes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56675.msg1166749#msg1166749
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2014, 08:05:21 pm »
Hm, hadn't noticed that. But I would like it back as well.
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Re: Public polls not having an option to view votes https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56675.msg1166752#msg1166752
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2014, 08:45:55 pm »
Watching the votes before voting makes the voting influenced by the majorities and that's just not the point of the voting.
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Those polls are private polls, but my topic is about public polls. (for example when we ask people where do they live. This can't cause bias.)
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