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Is this a good idea?

Great idea! Please change this if able!
1 (4%)
An alright idea, but not worth the effort.
4 (16%)
Bad idea. I don't want this change.
6 (24%)
The "other gender" option
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Re: More genders? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44448.msg1012524#msg1012524
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2012, 07:15:34 pm »
He or She
If not one of those two, then what shall I say?

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Re: More genders? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44448.msg1012529#msg1012529
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2012, 07:24:10 pm »
He or She
If not one of those two, then what shall I say?
There are some who belong to He who want to be refered as She and there are some who belong to She who want to be refered as He. Furthermore, there is also neutral gender, known as "It".
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Re: More genders? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44448.msg1012531#msg1012531
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2012, 07:26:09 pm »
Again keeping in mind that I know little on the subject, I don't think anyone would like being referred to as an "It". I believe "They" is the preferred pronoun when you don't know what gender noun to use.
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Re: More genders? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44448.msg1012533#msg1012533
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2012, 07:33:58 pm »
He or She
If not one of those two, then what shall I say?
There are some who belong to He who want to be refered as She and there are some who belong to She who want to be refered as He. Furthermore, there is also neutral gender, known as "It".

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Re: More genders? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44448.msg1012535#msg1012535
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2012, 07:37:49 pm »
Again keeping in mind that I know little on the subject, I don't think anyone would like being referred to as an "It". I believe "They" is the preferred pronoun when you don't know what gender noun to use.
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Re: More genders? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44448.msg1012546#msg1012546
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2012, 08:18:25 pm »
"The "singular" they is the use of this pronoun as a gender-neutral singular rather than as a plural pronoun. The correctness of this usage is disputed.[1][2] The Oxford Dictionaries have an article on the usage, saying that it dates back to the 16th century"
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Re: More genders? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44448.msg1012549#msg1012549
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2012, 08:26:11 pm »
I'm sorry you got offended, though I understand my wording may have proved to be a bit harsh.

I'm very well aware of the aforementioned distinction between the definition of Sex and Gender, yet I firmly believe that Nature points out our roles rather clearly with the genitalias gifted to us - but this is probably no place for any hint of rejection considering your personal situation that you shared in another topic; so again, I apologize.

But, what you failed to notice in my previous (and admittedly negative) comment by your sudden "rage" is the warning/heed of advice which others already mentioned before me, and the reason why you actually shouldn't get offended: A 'label' like this is an outstanding invitation for malicious people and further offenses or simple ill will - a phenomenon that can be hardly avoided over the internet, either made openly or not -, no matter how many and how strict rules are regulating the Forums, especially considering how sensitive you are (or others may be) in the matter.

Apart from that (like it was also mentioned): this is a gaming community. Even if you're among "friends", others befriend/respect you mostly because of your personality and/or your experience with the game; just be cautious about what you're sharing about yourself with others and be prepared for rejection and/or opinions that could be conflicting with yours.

That said, I'm fine with the addition of 'Other', though I still see it unnecessary.
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Re: More genders? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44448.msg1012576#msg1012576
« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2012, 10:55:19 pm »
I'm sorry you got offended, though I understand my wording may have proved to be a bit harsh.

But, what you failed to notice in my previous (and admittedly negative) comment by your sudden "rage" is the warning/heed of advice which others already mentioned before me, and the reason why you actually shouldn't get offended: A 'label' like this is an outstanding invitation for malicious people and further offenses or simple ill will - a phenomenon that can be hardly avoided over the internet, either made openly or not -, no matter how many and how strict rules are regulating the Forums, especially considering how sensitive you are (or others may be) in the matter.

That said, I'm fine with the addition of 'Other', though I still see it unnecessary.
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Regarding gender pronouns, i've yet to meet anyone who wants to be called it. They is what some people use, though it bothers people who are hard on grammar. I've also seen "shi hir" "xe xer" "per" "ze" and others. Here's a short article http://nonbinary.org/wiki/Pronouns  . Regarding which to use, generally you ask or use they (which is most widely accepted to my knowledge despite lack of being grammatically correct)
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Re: More genders? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44448.msg1012659#msg1012659
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2012, 07:41:41 am »
I would be content with an "Other" option. Leaving it blank is not sufficient.
Why is leaving it blank not sufficient?
Is it that the blank category contains males and females as well?
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Re: More genders? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44448.msg1012668#msg1012668
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2012, 08:34:41 am »
I would be content with an "Other" option. Leaving it blank is not sufficient.
Why is leaving it blank not sufficient?
Is it that the blank category contains males and females as well?
Leaving the option blank implies more of an "I don't want to tell you" or "I don't care to tell you" Other means "I want you to know, but I'm not one of these options"
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Re: More genders? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44448.msg1012673#msg1012673
« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2012, 10:06:05 am »
I would be content with an "Other" option. Leaving it blank is not sufficient.
Why is leaving it blank not sufficient?
Is it that the blank category contains males and females as well?
Leaving the option blank implies more of an "I don't want to tell you" or "I don't care to tell you" Other means "I want you to know, but I'm not one of these options"
Based on this, I would be in favor of an Other options but recommend against its use. We pigeonhole ourselves way too much in our society. No need to promote dividing people into groups.
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Re: More genders? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44448.msg1012711#msg1012711
« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2012, 03:35:30 pm »
I would also support adding an Other option to the list.
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