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Top 50, more like top 5! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1937.msg16688#msg16688
« on: January 11, 2010, 02:18:56 pm »
So I've been playing the t50 for a couple hours today, and so far I've seen about 5 or so different people, and mostly just played against 2....the chances of this happening regularly are incredibly slim, so why aren't I playing anybody else in the t50?

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Re: Top 50, more like top 5! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1937.msg16690#msg16690
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2010, 02:52:57 pm »
I could be wrong, but I think there's a matching bias based on the deck you are using (or possibly your mark).  I played T50 the other day, almost all day, hoping to get a PuppyChow farm with a vamp dagger.  I didn't face him one time in about 250 matches using my entropy speed deck.  I changed to a mono darkness deck and got him like 3 times in a row, along with a bunch of other decks I hadn't seen all day.

Can someone confirm or deny this?

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Re: Top 50, more like top 5! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1937.msg16697#msg16697
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2010, 03:06:08 pm »
I could be wrong, but I think there's a matching bias based on the deck you are using (or possibly your mark).  I played T50 the other day, almost all day, hoping to get a PuppyChow farm with a vamp dagger.  I didn't face him one time in about 250 matches using my entropy speed deck.  I changed to a mono darkness deck and got him like 3 times in a row, along with a bunch of other decks I hadn't seen all day.

Can someone confirm or deny this?
Thats what I was thinking, that theory fits perfectly, but i would like to hear a few other opinions on this, and if anybody has any more specific info on how this works that would be very much appreciated!

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Re: Top 50, more like top 5! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1937.msg16699#msg16699
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2010, 03:15:31 pm »
False. That's just confirmation bias. You are experiencing clustering that can come from randomization. If you really don't like your random seed then clear your cache and relaunch Elements.

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Re: Top 50, more like top 5! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1937.msg16702#msg16702
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2010, 03:30:31 pm »
False. That's just confirmation bias. You are experiencing clustering that can come from randomization. If you really don't like your random seed then clear your cache and relaunch Elements.
I was thinking that too since it is sort of like fighting the fg's, you keep fighting the same gods for a period of time, but that never lasts more than a a few games. This lasted for hours....

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Re: Top 50, more like top 5! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1937.msg16704#msg16704
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2010, 03:47:18 pm »
False. That's just confirmation bias. You are experiencing clustering that can come from randomization. If you really don't like your random seed then clear your cache and relaunch Elements.
How often or what conditions randomize the seed?

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Re: Top 50, more like top 5! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1937.msg16706#msg16706
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2010, 03:56:39 pm »
I can't say for sure because I haven't seen the code, but most RNGs are set once at launch. Sometimes the RNG can get "stuck" in a set "random" rotation, so clearing your cache shouldn't be necessary but is a good idea if you want to try to reset the RNG.

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Re: Top 50, more like top 5! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1937.msg16708#msg16708
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2010, 04:21:38 pm »
I can't say for sure because I haven't seen the code, but most RNGs are set once at launch. Sometimes the RNG can get "stuck" in a set "random" rotation, so clearing your cache shouldn't be necessary but is a good idea if you want to try to reset the RNG.
This seems to be it. After quitting and refreshing and everything my opponents are changing. Makes a lot of sense as well, thanks for explaining it jmizzle!

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Re: Top 50, more like top 5! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1937.msg16711#msg16711
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2010, 04:27:51 pm »
No prob, Bob. :D

 

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