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Re: Polls on the In Development Cards http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9939.msg131282#msg131282
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2010, 08:04:48 PM »
*facepalm*

If you read the other posts, you'll see people claiming death stalker deserves to be a 1|3.  That would make it twice as effective as forest scorpion.  As such if, as the poll implies, death stalker deserves a buff, shouldn't forest scorpion as well?  You're all saying forest scorpion is balanced to a UP card, and as such, is balanced.  Which makes no sense.  I'm saying forest scorpion is equal to, if not worse than, an UP card, and if as the poll implies Death Stalker deserves a buff, then forest scorpion should get one as well.

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Re: Polls on the In Development Cards http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9939.msg131284#msg131284
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2010, 08:10:20 PM »
*facepalm*

If you read the other posts, you'll see people claiming death stalker deserves to be a 1|3.  That would make it twice as effective as forest scorpion.  As such if, as the poll implies, death stalker deserves a buff, shouldn't forest scorpion as well?  You're all saying forest scorpion is balanced to a UP card, and as such, is balanced.  Which makes no sense.  I'm saying forest scorpion is equal to, if not worse than, an UP card, and if as the poll implies Death Stalker deserves a buff, then forest scorpion should get one as well.
So your argument is based entirely on someone else's mere opinion. Seriously, common sense - if, hypothetically, Zanz changes Death Stalker to become 1|3, why would Forest Scorpion not be buffed? Your entire table was based on a 0|3 Deathstalker. Since apparently your reasoning of a 0|3 Deathstalker got shot down, you made a new argument off someone else's opinion. Okeydokes.

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Re: Polls on the In Development Cards http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9939.msg131285#msg131285
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2010, 08:11:13 PM »
As I wrote before, I'd rather see Deathstalker applying 3 counters, than having 1 attack stat. At least that would make it worthwile to try to setup needed combo. Deathstalker IS weaker than Forest Scorpio in its current state. Which is weird.

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Re: Polls on the In Development Cards http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9939.msg131286#msg131286
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2010, 08:13:52 PM »
As I wrote before, I'd rather see Deathstalker applying 3 counters, than having 1 attack stat. At least that would make it worthwile to try to setup needed combo. Deathstalker IS weaker than Forest Scorpio in its current state. Which is weird.
I don't think Deathstalkers are *too* bad at the moment. A few Deathstalkers with Eclipse isn't that bad.

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Re: Polls on the In Development Cards http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9939.msg131287#msg131287
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2010, 08:14:12 PM »
*facepalm*

If you read the other posts, you'll see people claiming death stalker deserves to be a 1|3.  That would make it twice as effective as forest scorpion.  As such if, as the poll implies, death stalker deserves a buff, shouldn't forest scorpion as well?  You're all saying forest scorpion is balanced to a UP card, and as such, is balanced.  Which makes no sense.  I'm saying forest scorpion is equal to, if not worse than, an UP card, and if as the poll implies Death Stalker deserves a buff, then forest scorpion should get one as well.
2 attack versus 1 attack is a big deal in the world of shields for 2 elements that don't have PC.  0 attack death stalker DEFINATELY needs a buff, period.  Now 1 attack deathstalker may be better than 2 attack forest scorpion, but not by that much.  Forest scorpion also has healing and adrenaline to go along with effect that deathstalker does not, allowing it to make up for slower speed.

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Re: Polls http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9939.msg132746#msg132746
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2010, 01:14:54 AM »
cant wait for the new cards...
studying civil engineering right now. kinda busy. please dont bother me.

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Re: Polls http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9939.msg132794#msg132794
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2010, 02:25:35 AM »
cant wait for the new cards...
They might not even make it into the game.




Nightmare is only useful on AI, because AI  is dumb and will play they cards instead of discarding them.

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Re: Polls http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9939.msg132797#msg132797
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2010, 02:33:25 AM »
cant wait for the new cards...
They might not even make it into the game.




Nightmare is only useful on AI, because AI  is dumb and will play they cards instead of discarding them.
Not true nightmare prevents the next draw.  That makes it very powerful in a denial deck, which dark already is good at with the pest quicksand combo

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Re: Polls http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9939.msg132813#msg132813
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2010, 03:13:41 AM »
cant wait for the new cards...
They might not even make it into the game.




Nightmare is only useful on AI, because AI  is dumb and will play they cards instead of discarding them.
Not true nightmare prevents the next draw.  That makes it very powerful in a denial deck, which dark already is good at with the pest quicksand combo
Look how much a card in the Crucible was going to charge for just the draw prevention:


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Re: Polls http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9939.msg132815#msg132815
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2010, 03:16:46 AM »
Look how much a card in the Crucible was going to charge for just the draw prevention:


I have a feeling nightmare is too cheap right now, but haven't tried it yet either.  Will be hard to gauge till it goes live and we can PvP test it.

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Re: Polls http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9939.msg132839#msg132839
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2010, 04:49:02 AM »
I'll probably use voodoo the most... Makes a great OTK deck.

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Re: Polls http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9939.msg132887#msg132887
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2010, 06:43:39 AM »
Look how much a card in the Crucible was going to charge for just the draw prevention:


HEY! That's my card idea!  :o  ;D

...I'm starting to think that my idea should be removed now, considering it's too impractical to use now when compared to Nightmare. :(

 

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