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Re: Tyrant Lizard | Elite Tyrant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6114.msg62683#msg62683
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2010, 01:40:05 pm »
The  :life :life absorption is a maintenance cost in the unupped but an activation cost only in the upped?  If so, you need to change the elite card description to reflect that.  I think you need to keep the maintenance cost for elite card since you are already removing the "eat-or-die" condition.

Probably a bit too powerful--using otyugh as a reference, this starts with 4/6 attack (vs 0/3 or 0/5) and gains +2/+1 (vs +1/+1) with each consumed creature.  So it starts stronger and gains faster, for only 3 additional starting quanta and 1 additional/turn? 
It can only eat your creatures, like immolation.
Compare FFQ + graveyard +..................... lizard vs Otyugh.  Acknowledging the lizard only eats his own, after only 3 consumptions  he's already 10/9 vs 3/6 (or 3/8 upped) for the otyugh.  After 5 consumptions, it's 14/11 vs 5/8 (5/10.)  That's essentially having 3 otyugh's worth of damage for a trifle more cost.
And how do you know that it won't eat the FFQ? Kael's idea would make a lot of sense, since you could target (Or have it just use the lowest hp). Also, why would you use an otyugh for damage? The point to it is that it's very close to infinite creature control, while this card is just a very underpowered growth.

Again, it's got to be made +3/+1 to make it more balanced, since any growth creature will easily beat this in terms of cost and hp, and the Destroyer will always have more attack than it anyways, since you can fuel it with your mark and you don't need a creature.
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Re: Tyrant Lizard | Elite Tyrant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6114.msg65819#msg65819
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2010, 11:16:40 am »
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- Going to make any changes here?
- What about Terro's concerns?

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Re: Tyrant Lizard | Elite Tyrant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6114.msg70148#msg70148
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2010, 05:34:42 pm »
I wish i could have this card in trainer... I could make such an epic fractal photon+tyrant deck  :) :) :)

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Re: Tyrant Lizard | Elite Tyrant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6114.msg72121#msg72121
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2010, 01:38:14 am »
I love the card idea but am i the only one that thinks its more suited for a different element?  I wouldnt think life would have a card that "eats" other monsters.  It seems like it would fit in better with darkness or death.

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Re: Tyrant Lizard | Elite Tyrant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6114.msg72126#msg72126
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2010, 02:01:28 am »
Am I the only one who thinks this is ridiculously UP? The unupped one consumes two quanta per turn and needs to eat another creature on your own field possibly also costing a few quanta to gain 2/1 stat boost? It's a lot worst than oty and the growth creatures.

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Re: Tyrant Lizard | Elite Tyrant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6114.msg72244#msg72244
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2010, 08:32:42 am »
It would be more interesting if it gains the target creature's ATK :)

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Re: Tyrant Lizard | Elite Tyrant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6114.msg74166#msg74166
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2010, 10:20:07 pm »
avenger has a point, but then it would be op. maybe half? hm.... maybe a random creature PERIOD, on your's or your opponents. and it gains half the attack and health of the creature. this might balance it out a little. or make it ridiculously op. i still dont know.
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Re: Tyrant Lizard | Elite Tyrant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6114.msg74169#msg74169
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2010, 10:25:09 pm »
Honestly, I think the card is fine as is. One of my favorite ideas.

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Re: Tyrant Lizard | Elite Tyrant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6114.msg74174#msg74174
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2010, 10:30:18 pm »
as for what element it should be in, i like life for it. if it were a mono death card, it would be REDICULOUSLY op. in life, an element that doesnt really focus on killing anything, its fine. besides, eating things to stay alive is part of life.
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Re: Tyrant Lizard | Elite Tyrant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6114.msg94097#msg94097
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2010, 11:57:14 am »

To pick what to sacrifice, it should probably be the creature with the least hp, if they are even then just pick randomly among them. That'd give it a lot better synergy with FFQ.

but thats not always the best option why not just make it your choice? make it a free ability and still have the upkeep would work fine

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Re: Tyrant Lizard | Elite Tyrant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6114.msg94646#msg94646
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2010, 10:54:16 pm »
how about the lowest stat sum? such as if a creature has 2|3 it is eaten before a creature with 5|1 or 1|5?
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Re: Tyrant Lizard | Elite Tyrant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6114.msg104183#msg104183
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2010, 01:26:15 am »
avenger has a point, but then it would be op. maybe half? hm.... maybe a random creature PERIOD, on your's or your opponents. and it gains half the attack and health of the creature. this might balance it out a little. or make it ridiculously op. i still dont know.
no, if it eats opponents' creatures, it is OP. You could just have this as your only creature and just eat whatever the opponent has... maybe it could, rather than eating creatures, reduce the player's hp instead. That would make it good with life, but not so good with death, so i suppose it's not really what you intended at first, but it creates a good attacker for life and makes mono-life healing decks much more effective (if you can stall for long enough, this would get huge).

 

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