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Re: Shard of Endurance | Shard of Endurance http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35193.msg443652#msg443652
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2011, 08:41:36 pm »
I'll be honest, I don't like the idea. Now if there is some way to make it unusable with a protected permanent, then maybe. But as it stands Emerald shield and Hope are going to get shard spammed.

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Re: Shard of Endurance | Shard of Endurance http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35193.msg443654#msg443654
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2011, 08:46:06 pm »
How would it work with Bone Wall?
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Re: Shard of Endurance | Shard of Endurance http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35193.msg443664#msg443664
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2011, 09:10:51 pm »
More than somewhat OP.
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Re: Shard of Endurance | Shard of Endurance http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35193.msg443689#msg443689
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2011, 11:41:36 pm »
One armagio would make your shield increase by 5|6. Hardly any creatures can penetrate that. A single BB would also guarantee a 4 point damage reduction. Way too powerful.

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Re: Shard of Endurance | Shard of Endurance http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35193.msg443711#msg443711
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2011, 12:42:37 am »
Okay, I've got an idea: what if I used the second version, but it was a permanent?

How would it work with Bone Wall?
I assume it would work such that a charge is only destroyed if the creature has any damage getting past its defence.
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Re: Shard of Endurance | Shard of Endurance http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35193.msg443719#msg443719
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2011, 12:51:05 am »
The second idea is also very, very powerful, and nearly broken if it can stack. 2/3 extra defense for 3 quanta? That's a steal. Especially considering how shields gain cost when their defense increases just by 1, you have an instant 3 bonus shield for only 3 quanta. Even when used in a non-:earth deck, assuming most shields have a defense of 1, nearly everyone would pay 3  :rainbow for 2 extra points of defense. This card would be even more powerful when coupled with let's say, fog shield or permafrost shield or mirror shield.

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Re: Shard of Endurance | Shard of Endurance http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35193.msg443723#msg443723
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2011, 12:56:57 am »
This as it is now is probably a bit OP, the starting DR isnt really that big if a factor. If it could work with mirror shield, (It doesn't target) you can stop a large amount of decks.

What if it scaled. so each point of DR costs 3HP* current DR.
so you play a titanium shield. armagio, then this.
25HP
25-6=19 DR now is 3
19 -9=10 DR is now 4
10-12<0 DR is now 5

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Re: Shard of Endurance | Shard of Endurance http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35193.msg443726#msg443726
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2011, 01:04:41 am »
The second idea is also very, very powerful, and nearly broken if it can stack. 2/3 extra defense for 3 quanta? That's a steal. Especially considering how shields gain cost when their defense increases just by 1, you have an instant 3 bonus shield for only 3 quanta. Even when used in a non-:earth deck, assuming most shields have a defense of 1, nearly everyone would pay 3  :rainbow for 2 extra points of defense. This card would be even more powerful when coupled with let's say, fog shield or permafrost shield or mirror shield.
"Instant 3 bonus shield for only 3 quanta"? You need a shield in the first place.

I'm considering having it just 1 DR, 2 if :earth mark, but that may be too large a bonus to Earth. Or, maybe it could only increase the DR of shields that already have DR, unless your mark is :earth.

This as it is now is probably a bit OP, the starting DR isnt really that big if a factor. If it could work with mirror shield, (It doesn't target) you can stop a large amount of decks.

What if it scaled. so each point of DR costs 3HP* current DR.
so you play a titanium shield. armagio, then this.
25HP
25-6=19 DR now is 3
19 -9=10 DR is now 4
10-12<0 DR is now 5
Interesting. Perhaps the card text could just say 'Sacrifice target creature to increase your shield's damage reduction. Higher HP creatures increase it by more.', and then a balanced formula can be worked out.
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Re: Shard of Endurance | Shard of Endurance http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35193.msg444083#msg444083
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2012, 04:43:48 am »
Added a new version in the OP. Thoughts?
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Re: Shard of Endurance | Shard of Endurance http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35193.msg444090#msg444090
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2012, 05:16:54 am »
Nah, this is totally underpowered, normally this would be fine but you forgot to take into consideration that its a shard :P

But yeah, this seems fine, though obviously im not the best person to decide on this...
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Re: Shard of Endurance | Shard of Endurance http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35193.msg444189#msg444189
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Re: Shard of Endurance | Shard of Endurance http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35193.msg447187#msg447187
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