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Question: Does each swarm damage? Like, if you got 4 of them out, you do 4x4 dmg = 16?Yeah, that's the catch of the upped creature :)
Though, considering 3 air for a 0l1 creature, isn't too much.
Great Card. and Air and Aether doesn't have synergys, so I wouldn't worry. Very balanced.I'd have to agree with that, my thoughts exactly :)
Great Card. and Air and Aether doesn't have synergys, so I wouldn't worry. Very balanced.Doesn't mean it wouldn't work. Take the already existing Cocktrice Fractal or Frog Fractal for example.
If the swarm deals 1 damage per turn, why not make the stats 1|1 (and N|1 for the upped version)?Because that would be physical damage. Doing it this way makes it spell damage and allows it to bypass most shields. Also, I think someone already made a card like that.
Huh? No, jade shield reflects only targeted spells. This is a passive creature ability.I think the OPs intention was to have it blocked by jade shields. So far there arent any passive creature abilities that target HP, so im pretty sure the shield would stop this.
It will bypass shields defence and won't burn on fireshield, iceshield etc.
Fractal spammed them will kill you in 2 rounds (64 damage per round can kill you easily).
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I think it changes the reason people voted to get the card here.Well, what if I modified the two cards to this?
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2132/onerousswarmver3.png) (http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9625/wretchedswarmver3.png)
I like the sound of on-uh-ressame!
sounds like....ominous ^_^
Hmm, fair enough. Ill change the card and thread names sometime today.Only if you want to change it. If you really want Onerous then keep it.
No no, make the card:You need to give a name that makes sense in terms of the card's mechanics. The unupgraded version deals damage independent of the other cards, but the upgraded version relies on its counterparts, much like scarabs, to be most effective. I agree with what Gl1tch is saying there, but I do like onerous more than wretched for the adjective.
Wretched Mosquito|Wretched Swarm
The swarm, while deadly, was just as likely to attack each other and it was to attack the opponent, making it's upkeep rather onerous.
This has gotten me really confused, what's the difference between upped and ununppeD? If you have 6 of each on the field, won't they deal the same damage? And the upgraded cost twice as much.If you had a full set on the table:
But Onerous doesn't mean what you think it means!I get what you are saying. I know what onerous means, its an adjective "involving an amount of effort and difficulty that is oppressively burdensome" according to my dictionary. Using it to describe a swarm or insect in this case doesn't in any way imply who it is a burden for. The card isn't called my onerous swarm its an onerous swarm. Like I said in an earlier post, I picked the names based on what I imagine the victim would feel like when they were attacked by a swarm of bugs.
If something is onerous, it means you take more harm than you gain. Like an upside down loan, or a card that makes you lose when you play it.
If it were really a onerous swarm, then every time you played it YOU would take damage.
To use the word in a sentence:QuoteThe swarm, while deadly, was just as likely to attack each other and it was to attack the opponent, making it's upkeep rather onerous.
But Onerous doesn't mean what you think it means!I don't see that implication at all. In fact, since you are the one controlling the onerous swarm, it would imply that they would be attacking your enemy, thus burdensome for the enemy, not for the owner of the card.
If something is onerous, it means you take more harm than you gain. Like an upside down loan, or a card that makes you lose when you play it.
If it were really a onerous swarm, then every time you played it YOU would take damage.
To use the word in a sentence:QuoteThe swarm, while deadly, was just as likely to attack each other and it was to attack the opponent, making it's upkeep rather onerous.
...What if I just made it something like Insect Cloud | Insect Swarm ?That's probably the easiest (and most concise) name for the cards in question, which I support. (All of this talk regarding the definition of Onerous, Wretched, and whatnot is giving me a headache). ^^;
All these new air cards are gonna make :air Overpowered!!...What if I just made it something like Insect Cloud | Insect Swarm ?That's probably the easiest (and most concise) name for the cards in question, which I support. (All of this talk regarding the definition of Onerous, Wretched, and whatnot is giving me a headache). ^^;
It's a nice card, but I wish it wasn't so reliant on Putrid Carcass to be super effective. Then again, it provides a new synergy between :death and :air, so props to a fun idea. (We have so many insects/bugs though, now that I think about it... Scarabs, Devourers/Pests, Ash Eaters, etc.)
So, I brought this up early in the thread but people kind of ignored it. Seems like a good time to revive it. Would people be horribly insulted if I took out the over-the-top adjectives altogether? Looking through the Elements card list, the names are quite tame. The most dramatic adjective I can find is maybe "Fallen". Most are just "Ice Dragon" or "Arctic Squid". My names seem silly by comparison and don't fit. What if I just made it something like Insect Cloud | Insect Swarm ?I think Insect Cloud | Insect Swarm sounds good, but have no objections to what it currently is.