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Re: Onerous Swarm | Wretched Swarm http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6433.msg83722#msg83722
« Reply #48 on: June 06, 2010, 08:26:41 AM »
No no, make the card:

Wretched Mosquito|Wretched Swarm
You need to give a name that makes sense in terms of the card's mechanics. The unupgraded version deals damage independent of the other cards, but the upgraded version relies on its counterparts, much like scarabs, to be most effective. I agree with what Gl1tch is saying there, but I do like onerous more than wretched for the adjective.

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Re: Onerous Swarm | Wretched Swarm http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6433.msg84243#msg84243
« Reply #49 on: June 06, 2010, 07:03:17 PM »
But Onerous doesn't mean what you think it means!

If something is onerous, it means you take more harm than you gain.  Like an upside down loan, or a card that makes you lose when you play it.

If it were really a onerous swarm, then every time you played it YOU would take damage.

To use the word in a sentence:
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The swarm, while deadly, was just as likely to attack each other and it was to attack the opponent, making it's upkeep rather onerous.

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Re: Onerous Swarm | Wretched Swarm http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6433.msg84253#msg84253
« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2010, 07:13:38 PM »
This has gotten me really confused, what's the difference between upped and ununppeD? If you have 6 of each on the field, won't they deal the same damage? And the upgraded cost twice as much.

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Re: Onerous Swarm | Wretched Swarm http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6433.msg84255#msg84255
« Reply #51 on: June 06, 2010, 07:16:09 PM »
This has gotten me really confused, what's the difference between upped and ununppeD? If you have 6 of each on the field, won't they deal the same damage? And the upgraded cost twice as much.
If you had a full set on the table:
The Basic deals 1 damage each so 6 damage total
The Upped deals x damage each or in this case 6 for 36 total damage

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Re: Onerous Swarm | Wretched Swarm http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6433.msg84281#msg84281
« Reply #52 on: June 06, 2010, 07:56:17 PM »
But Onerous doesn't mean what you think it means!

If something is onerous, it means you take more harm than you gain.  Like an upside down loan, or a card that makes you lose when you play it.

If it were really a onerous swarm, then every time you played it YOU would take damage.

To use the word in a sentence:
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The swarm, while deadly, was just as likely to attack each other and it was to attack the opponent, making it's upkeep rather onerous.
I get what you are saying. I know what onerous means, its an adjective "involving an amount of effort and difficulty that is oppressively burdensome" according to my dictionary. Using it to describe a swarm or insect in this case doesn't in any way imply who it is a burden for. The card isn't called my onerous swarm its an onerous swarm. Like I said in an earlier post, I picked the names based on what I imagine the victim would feel like when they were attacked by a swarm of bugs.

It doesn't really matter anyways since it is going to change once I get around to finally updating the card.

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Re: Onerous Swarm | Wretched Swarm http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6433.msg84748#msg84748
« Reply #53 on: June 07, 2010, 05:03:24 AM »
But Onerous doesn't mean what you think it means!

If something is onerous, it means you take more harm than you gain.  Like an upside down loan, or a card that makes you lose when you play it.

If it were really a onerous swarm, then every time you played it YOU would take damage.

To use the word in a sentence:
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The swarm, while deadly, was just as likely to attack each other and it was to attack the opponent, making it's upkeep rather onerous.
I don't see that implication at all. In fact, since you are the one controlling the onerous swarm, it would imply that they would be attacking your enemy, thus burdensome for the enemy, not for the owner of the card.

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Re: Onerous Swarm | Wretched Swarm http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6433.msg85486#msg85486
« Reply #54 on: June 08, 2010, 02:44:34 AM »
So, I brought this up early in the thread but people kind of ignored it. Seems like a good time to revive it. Would people be horribly insulted if I took out the over-the-top adjectives altogether? Looking through the Elements card list, the names are quite tame. The most dramatic adjective I can find is maybe "Fallen". Most are just "Ice Dragon" or "Arctic Squid". My names seem silly by comparison and don't fit. What if I just made it something like Insect Cloud | Insect Swarm ?

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Re: Onerous Swarm | Wretched Swarm http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6433.msg85487#msg85487
« Reply #55 on: June 08, 2010, 02:48:09 AM »
I don't think anyone would be offended if you change your adjective, its your card after all. For some reason, insect cloud is jumping out at me, but insect swarm sounds like a good name.

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Re: Onerous Swarm | Wretched Swarm http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6433.msg85488#msg85488
« Reply #56 on: June 08, 2010, 02:49:31 AM »
...What if I just made it something like Insect Cloud | Insect Swarm ?
That's probably the easiest (and most concise) name for the cards in question, which I support. (All of this talk regarding the definition of Onerous, Wretched, and whatnot is giving me a headache). ^^;

It's a nice card, but I wish it wasn't so reliant on Putrid Carcass to be super effective. Then again, it provides a new synergy between :death and :air, so props to a fun idea. (We have so many insects/bugs though, now that I think about it... Scarabs, Devourers/Pests, Ash Eaters, etc.)

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Re: Onerous Swarm | Wretched Swarm http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6433.msg85491#msg85491
« Reply #57 on: June 08, 2010, 02:52:05 AM »
...What if I just made it something like Insect Cloud | Insect Swarm ?
That's probably the easiest (and most concise) name for the cards in question, which I support. (All of this talk regarding the definition of Onerous, Wretched, and whatnot is giving me a headache). ^^;

It's a nice card, but I wish it wasn't so reliant on Putrid Carcass to be super effective. Then again, it provides a new synergy between :death and :air, so props to a fun idea. (We have so many insects/bugs though, now that I think about it... Scarabs, Devourers/Pests, Ash Eaters, etc.)
All these new air cards are gonna make  :air Overpowered!!

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Re: Onerous Swarm | Wretched Swarm http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6433.msg89357#msg89357
« Reply #58 on: June 12, 2010, 01:41:48 PM »
So, I brought this up early in the thread but people kind of ignored it. Seems like a good time to revive it. Would people be horribly insulted if I took out the over-the-top adjectives altogether? Looking through the Elements card list, the names are quite tame. The most dramatic adjective I can find is maybe "Fallen". Most are just "Ice Dragon" or "Arctic Squid". My names seem silly by comparison and don't fit. What if I just made it something like Insect Cloud | Insect Swarm ?
I think  Insect Cloud | Insect Swarm sounds good, but have no objections to what it currently is.

 

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