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« on: August 24, 2015, 05:05:30 am »
NAME:
Morphic Clay
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
3 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:aether : Morphic Clay becomes a copy of target permanent until the end of your next turn.
NAME:
Morphic Clay
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
2 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:aether : Morphic Clay becomes a copy of target permanent until the end of your next turn.

ART:
Wolfgang Sauber
IDEA:
ZephyrPhantom
NOTES:
Inspired by a combination of this thread and Morphing Clay.

Copied weapons and shields would go to the appropriate slot for 1 turn (overriding any existing equipment) and then turn back into Morphic Clay. Copied marks would work the same way playing a mark card (winnable from tournaments) would; it'd basically act as another pillar until next turn. Timer on the card is copied as well - you do not get a fresh copy.
SERIES:


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NAME:
Morphic Clay
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
3 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:aether : Morphic Clay becomes a copy of target enemy permanent until the end of your next turn.
NAME:
Morphic Clay
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
2 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:aether : Morphic Clay becomes a copy of target enemy permanent until the end of your next turn.

ART:
Wolfgang Sauber, modified by ZephyrPhantom
IDEA:
ZephyrPhantom
NOTES:
Inspired by a combination of this thread and Morphing Clay.


Copied weapons and shields would go to the appropriate slot for 1 turn (overriding any existing equipment) and then turn back into Morphic Clay. Copied marks would work the same way playing a mark card (winnable from tournaments) would; it'd basically act as another pillar until next turn.
SERIES:

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Re: Morphic Clay | Morphic Clay https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59293.msg1202097#msg1202097
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2015, 09:13:02 am »
can you copy dimensional shield?

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Re: Morphic Clay | Morphic Clay https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59293.msg1202103#msg1202103
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2015, 11:12:37 am »
Expanding on what foxrain asked, what happens when you target weapons or shields in general? What about mark? Can you even target the marks?
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Re: Morphic Clay | Morphic Clay https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59293.msg1202112#msg1202112
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2015, 12:54:19 pm »
can you copy dimensional shield?
Yes, though I hadn't thought of how broken that would be. I've considered making it not able to target shields but that doesn't get rid of the fact you can copy Sundial instead. I'm considering adding a modifier that causes timed permanents to be copies with a 'timer' of zero, or limiting this to targeting enemy permanents.
Expanding on what foxrain asked, what happens when you target weapons or shields in general? What about mark? Can you even target the marks?
Weapons and shield would go to the appropriate slot for 1 turn (overriding any existing equipment) and then turn back into Morphic Clay. Copied marks would work the same way playing a mark card (winnable from tournaments) would; it'd basically act as another pillar until next turn.

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Re: Morphic Clay | Morphic Clay https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59293.msg1202125#msg1202125
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2015, 02:09:33 pm »
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can you copy dimensional shield?
Yes, though I hadn't thought of how broken that would be. I've considered making it not able to target shields but that doesn't get rid of the fact you can copy Sundial instead. I'm considering adding a modifier that causes timed permanents to be copies with a 'timer' of zero, or limiting this to targeting enemy permanents.
countering an op card doesn't sounds broken to me,
it sounds more like hurray!

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Re: Morphic Clay | Morphic Clay https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59293.msg1202189#msg1202189
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2015, 10:28:24 pm »
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can you copy dimensional shield?
Yes, though I hadn't thought of how broken that would be. I've considered making it not able to target shields but that doesn't get rid of the fact you can copy Sundial instead. I'm considering adding a modifier that causes timed permanents to be copies with a 'timer' of zero, or limiting this to targeting enemy permanents.
countering an op card doesn't sounds broken to me,
it sounds more like hurray!

It's not necessarily countering, it also allows you to target your own shields to extend their time.
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Re: Morphic Clay | Morphic Clay https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59293.msg1202191#msg1202191
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2015, 11:18:15 pm »
Will the new activated ability(if any) be ready for immediate use?
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Re: Morphic Clay | Morphic Clay https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59293.msg1202217#msg1202217
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2015, 05:22:25 am »
Will the new activated ability(if any) be ready for immediate use?
Not in the current version. You'd have to wait until the next turn to use the card's skill. (After that turn, the card will revert back to Morphic Clay.)

Card Updated:
Morphic Clay can now only target enemy permanents. (Prevents abuse of your own Dim Shields/Sundial and instead punishes enemy Dim Shield/Sundial use.)

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Re: Morphic Clay | Morphic Clay https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59293.msg1202232#msg1202232
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2015, 11:32:13 am »
Make Clay reset at the beginning of your next turn.

This way Dim Shields will time out regardless of how many times they are Morphed into.

E.g. If you morph your own shield, you'll lose all trace of the original shield one turn later and be unable to morph it again. If you target an opponent's, you can only do so while it is in play. Once it's gone it's gone.

In that case, you may wish to make permanent abilities available immediately (or not, as a versatility nerf).
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Re: Morphic Clay | Morphic Clay https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59293.msg1202233#msg1202233
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2015, 11:33:14 am »
Also, I love this idea :D
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Re: Morphic Clay | Morphic Clay https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59293.msg1202262#msg1202262
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2015, 05:27:00 pm »
can you copy dimensional shield?

(Maybe) even better question:
How many Bone Wall layers it can copy?
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Re: Morphic Clay | Morphic Clay https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59293.msg1202263#msg1202263
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2015, 05:31:31 pm »
Make Clay reset at the beginning of your next turn.

This way Dim Shields will time out regardless of how many times they are Morphed into.

E.g. If you morph your own shield, you'll lose all trace of the original shield one turn later and be unable to morph it again. If you target an opponent's, you can only do so while it is in play. Once it's gone it's gone.

In that case, you may wish to make permanent abilities available immediately (or not, as a versatility nerf).
Good idea in concept, except it means copying cards like Hourglass will suddenly become invalid; Readiness is a possible fix to this but I'm concerned about cramming the card with an overcomplicated explanation. If a clear and concise version of that effect could be made, I'll definitely consider it though.
can you copy dimensional shield?

(Maybe) even better question:
How many Bone Wall layers it can copy?
Only 1; Morphic Clay can only copy the top permanent of a stack.

 

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